Mask use in grocery stores

[Pam]

Originally Posted by jogator1

For those who are so worried regarding others not wearing masks, why not wear your own properly fitted PPE protecting yourself? The supply chain has vastly improved on PPE and then you can go out in public fully protected. N95 mask, eye protection/face shield, gloves, fluid resistant gown, etc. It would be a bit of an inconvenience but no different than what you are asking of others. This should put you at ease. Then you will not have to worry about your own protection and not be requesting others to give up their individual liberties. Seems pretty simple for a win/win.

Are you serious or are you being ironic? You want some people to completely outfit themselves in complete PPE for a trip to the grocery store, so other people don't have to put on a simple face mask, which is somehow a huge violation of their civil liberties??? Wow.

I might also remind people that Boris Johnson was quite cavalier about this disease, and then, according to his public statement, almost died. So you never know who's really vulnerable.

[jogator1]

Originally Posted by Pam

Are you serious or are you being ironic? You want some people to completely outfit themselves in complete PPE for a trip to the grocery store, so other people don't have to put on a simple face mask, which is somehow a huge violation of their civil liberties??? Wow.

I might also remind people that Boris Johnson was quite cavalier about this disease, and then, according to his public statement, almost died. So you never know who's really vulnerable.

Pam, you are the one who started this post due to your fear of contracting this virus as others are not wearing a mask. Just as you ask others to wear a mask and protect YOU, you can wear proper PPE and protect YOURSELF. Why rely on others when you can take care of yourself? It is nobody else's responsibility to ease your fears especially when you can protect yourself. It never ceases to amaze me how people want to control others to make their own life easier. As I mentioned earlier, get yourself a properly fitted N95 mask and forget about what others are doing.

[Pam]

Originally Posted by jogator1

Pam, you are the one who started this post due to your fear of contracting this virus as others are not wearing a mask. Just as you ask others to wear a mask and protect YOU, you can wear proper PPE and protect YOURSELF. Why rely on others when you can take care of yourself? It is nobody else's responsibility to ease your fears especially when you can protect yourself. It never ceases to amaze me how people want to control others to make their own life easier. As I mentioned earlier, get yourself a properly fitted N95 mask and forget about what others are doing.

Actually, you misunderstand me somewhat. I'm actually not as worried about catching this disease myself, as I am that a resurgence in society as a whole will undo the work accomplished in the lockdown and will mean further restrictions. (This is what I wrote: "After the pain and suffering of the lockdown, it worries me that people may let this disease get out of hand again because they don't like wearing a mask. Especially as more people pour into town.")

I'd like to go out to eat and see my friends. I want the economy to come back strong. A resurgence in the disease threatens that. I want this all to be behind us and carelessness in society threatens that.

[jogator1]

Originally Posted by Pam

Actually, you misunderstand me somewhat. I'm actually not as worried about catching this disease myself, as I am that a resurgence in society as a whole will undo the work accomplished in the lockdown and will mean further restrictions. (This is what I wrote: "After the pain and suffering of the lockdown, it worries me that people may let this disease get out of hand again because they don't like wearing a mask. Especially as more people pour into town.")

I'd like to go out to eat and see my friends. I want the economy to come back strong. A resurgence in the disease threatens that. I want this all to be behind us and carelessness in society threatens that.

I think most of us (at least Myself) agree with you that we don't want a resurgence and would love for things to return to normal. It's just easy to throw around the word "science" to justify an opinion when the science really doesn't exist for this virus or preventing it with a mask. Your typical surgical/medical mask is effective for about 60 seconds after which the humidity of your breath renders it practically useless. That's science indicated by peer reviewed research. The pro-maskers are completely assuming that a mask will catch large infected droplets of a cough/sneeze even after those first 60 seconds. It is pure assumption (maybe right, maybe wrong) but the real problem with transmission is being exposed to the viral cloud for 5-10 minutes. Those large droplets quickly fall to the ground and don't create the "cloud" of suspension that has been noted to be far more dangerous in transmission. Science does not indicate that a surgical/medical mask can stop this cloud after 60 seconds of use. This is the reason they're calling for social distancing as those large droplets will typically fall to ground before traveling greater than 6 ft. This virus is here and will take its course through the summer. There's no way of stopping it until we find a viable treatment or vaccine. There are areas around the world and in this country in which the virus is spreading rapidly even in lockdown or with full use of masks (Asia). We can look at the statistics and interpret them as we wish. Our interpretation is our opinion based on our political beliefs. Some think the stats aren't bad, some are living in complete fear with the same exact virus. Personally, I wear a mask when it is mandatory because I like to follow the rules. If it's not mandatory I make the decision for myself based on the situation. Others have the same liberty to make their own decision.