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Old 06-02-2011, 06:52 AM   #1
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It's not about negativity, wisdom, knowledge, or anger, it's about irony and cynicism regarding what is being called "Safety".

Two boats who would have passed your "safety inspection"—with flying colors—did create the biggest headlines on Lake Winnipesaukee—in three decades!

So I find my cynical-self—ironically—agreeing with those who have asserted in the past, that:
A vessel safety check is not going to prevent an accident from happening. Everyone here with an IQ over 10 knows that. The vessel safety check is designed to help the passengers of a boat in the event of an accident.

It doesn't always take a bad driver to get a boat and its passengers into trouble that might require the use of the necessary safety equipment that a vessel safety check would help with. There have been many many accidents on every body of water in the country (Yes, even on Lake Winni) where not having the necessary safety equipment put the passengers of the boat in great danger. It happens all the time.

APS, what is the harm in getting your vessel checked for safety?
APS, why are you so against an organization whose first name is "SAFE" promote safe behavior on NH waterways?
APS, why can't you just say that yes, it would be a good idea for EVERYONE to get their vessel checked for safety, regardless of type of watercraft?
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Old 06-06-2011, 06:07 AM   #2
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We do away with temporary certificates and certify paddlers that they are capable of paddling their crafts safely!
1) Certification has little to do with common sense, and may build over-confidence on the water. We've seen the disappointment with mandatory licensure, where nobody fails the test.

2) There are very few boats with the sign, "Rental Boat". Am I the only person here who has ever rented a boat?

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APS, what is the harm in getting your vessel checked for safety?
There is none and it makes everyone involved "feel good". It's nice that you have the time to schmooze —and maybe—impress lesser boaters than yourselves.

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APS, why are you so against an organization whose first name is "SAFE" promote safe behavior on NH waterways?
1) Because you could teach each boater one knot: especially one extremely valuable knot that could keep their boats secure in towing situations, as well as preventing a boat from drifting away into the night—or having their boats re-tied at public docks during the day.

I haven't seen that seamanship-knowledge displayed here by SBONH.anywhere.

2) I haven't seen SBONH "promote" anything but themselves—much less...behavior of others.

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APS, why can't you just say that yes, it would be a good idea for EVERYONE to get their vessel checked for safety, regardless of type of watercraft?
Inspections depend on the competency of the inspector. Is being a member of SBONH sufficient training to know what you are doing?
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Old 06-06-2011, 09:52 PM   #3
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Inspections depend on the competency of the inspector. Is being a member of SBONH sufficient training to know what you are doing?
Being APS sufficient training to know what you are doing?
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Old 06-07-2011, 06:43 AM   #4
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1) Because you could teach each boater one knot: especially one extremely valuable knot that could keep their boats secure in towing situations, as well as preventing a boat from drifting away into the night—or having their boats re-tied at public docks during the day.

I haven't seen that seamanship-knowledge displayed here by SBONH.anywhere.
So let me get this straight.
You are stating that knowledge of how to tie one knot, one "extremely valuable knot" is more important than a vessel safety check.

OK. if what I am saying is accurate, it is my opinion that you have completely lost your mind.
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Being APS sufficient training to know what you are doing?
I know my way around boats, but I wouldn't attempt a boat survey. OTOH, I can see when a fire extinguisher registers ¾-full.

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So let me get this straight.
You are stating that knowledge of how to tie one knot, one "extremely valuable knot" is more important than a vessel safety check. OK. if what I am saying is accurate, it is my opinion that you have completely lost your mind.
NHBUOY has just answered correctly: now I have greater confidence in NHBUOY than anyone else "doing 'inspections'".

"Inspections" are valued so greatly, yet the only visible and remaining "Safety Club" insists on kayakers PFDs all the time, but 20 passengers were cast into Winnipesaukee waters in recent seasons—from powerboats. How can "inspections" equate to adequate seamanship—and who is going to provide that—a "Safety Club" perhaps?
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