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I am absolutely heartbroken to hear this, as I grew up enjoying this arcade, the best one there.
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I made mention of this last spring in this thread…
https://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums...ghlight=Casino Dan
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Probably a new dining location.
That could be interesting as the offerings expand. |
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Can the building hold it? Looks like it's already needing some love. Might try and grab me a skee ball machine!
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Return Winnipesaukee Gardens. Some great music was played and heard there.
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The Weirs was at its peak when we had two dance halls, two bowling alleys and a scattering of unrelated businesses, including a Bingo hall on the Boardwalk and daily events from the rooftop of the train station. Foxy boats, Miss Winnipesaukee, Sophie C, Mount Washington and Uncle Sam, Weirs Drive-In and 28 Flavors at Ho-Jo's. |
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I, for one, won't miss it. There are plenty of arcades across the street, if that's your thing.
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Like it or not the lake is changing, the Weirs is going to eventually change inline with the rest of it. People are looking for a more upscale destination. Which is not what most of us grew up around.
That is why camps continue to disappear and year round house go up with landscaping etc. And all the restaurants that come in are higher end. People are no longer satisfied with good enough, it has to be luxurious and accommodating. I often wondered how many McMansion's the lake would support..... we have surpassed what I thought. And at this moment I see towns that are trying to force people with camps out, with higher and higher taxes, by increasing land values to unbelievable levels.... Ok I will stop rambling for now.....
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Towns don't set the value of land, the market does.
Businesses change because the costs are not covered by the revenues. The Weirs has some limitations on parking, tends to be seasonal, and some things are not as popular as they were with the older generation. |
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My father in-law used to say, " the good old days weren't really that good, we just didn't know any better".
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Well, complain to whomever.
But the assessment is based on the market rate. The assessment, in and of itself, does not create higher taxes. It can shift more of the tax to a property if that property's value goes up more than average; but overall not something in any one person's control. The only way to get assessments to go down is make the property less valuable. |
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Supply/demand determines what the “value” is. |
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Assessments are based on market value.
Municipal Budget divided by total assessments sets the municipal rate. That rate applied to the individual property assessment sets the municipal tax for that property. They do the same for school budget and county budget. |
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Same thing is happening on the island - properties regularly sell into the 7 figures which drives up assessments. Both my hometown and Meredith could choose to spend less money but they don't. |
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What I don't understand and can't get answered is why this round of huge assessment raises, our rate did not go down that much. It seems if assessments went up 30%, rates should go down accordingly. Now, if the town had spent more money I could get that but that didn't happen, not that much more. I mean that is a lot more tax money. What are these towns doing with that much more money? Always before the rate went down accordingly. Not this time.
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One of the slip owner told me that the Gardens is to become a private club like the balcony room. Oh well.
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Also, not everyone's assessment goes up at the same rate so some end up with a bigger tax bill year to year than others. Waterfront property on the lake sees assessments increasing more rapidly than houses off the water. Same thing with my primary residence - my location sees assessments rising faster than other parts of town. Not good for my yearly taxes but great if I decide to sell either property.
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On my tax card, there is no "enhanced" itemization for landscaping. It has my decks, patio, and driveway as features. |
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Did you ask the town clerk? |
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Your December tax bill will be based on the budget passed in March/April, the town wide assessed valuation is established in April,(which really isn't fully calculated until several weeks after April), less the arbitrary amount you paid in June. |
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So, back to the topic, is anyone else bidding on the skee ball and the Harley Davidson Game?
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I have a lot with 100 feet of frontage on the lake but much of the lot is steep and there is a value deduction for that on my tax card. The lot is triangular shaped with 50 feet at the street and 100 feet on the water. The zoning has a 25 foot sideline setback so much of the lot in unbuildable. All of that is considered by the assessors to determine value. |
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![]() I honestly can't disagree with the assessments because the market has been crazy. What I can't understand is that with that much more value why the tax rates didn't go down more. With such a jump in assessments that's a LOT more money.
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I think Chris (Descant) explained it.
I didn't have a clue how that timing thing worked. But from his post, I guess the new budget number and new assessment figure affects the December bill, and not the July bill. The only way to lower assessments is to get people to not want to move here. Probably some legislative action could be legal; but not sure that it would get broad support. But like you pointed out, a lower assessment may just mean a higher rate and the same actual tax bill. |
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![]() There are a couple other things I might be interested if I can figure out how to pick it up in the time frame they want it picked up by. Hard to get out of work when they want you there between 8-2 on the 8th or 9th. |
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Surprised that some HD dealer didn't look at it as a nostalgia piece.
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Heard from a “friend in the know” that some type of nightclub will be going in at this location…The casino is out!
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