The Dive?

[loonguy]

Am I correct that boat lighting is limited by law to approved navigation lights, i.e. one white light when anchored? Is there some special rule that would permit the extensive lighting on The Dive?

[Seaplane Pilot]

Originally Posted by loonguy

Am I correct that boat lighting is limited by law to approved navigation lights, i.e. one white light when anchored? Is there some special rule that would permit the extensive lighting on The Dive?

I would say it's the same set of rules that apply to the Mt. Washington.

[Biggd]

I have no dog in this fight because I'm not on Winni but I really have to question the judgement of the officials that granted the permits for this floating monstrosity. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[Taz]

Then you have made my point, that eliminates another busy area they could move to if its even feasible distance wise or if it can handle a rough water day. Now we are down to 2 areas it could anchor that would make money, Smalls and Braun. And I seriously question if they would even consider Braun due to distance. At the speed it probably moves at it may take 3 hours to get there and 3 hours back and if its rough longer or maybe it can not even go on a rough day, can you imagine taking 3, 4 footers in the Broads that it could encounter.

Some one mentioned Wolfeboro or Govenors Island Bridge. They are never going to go there, not enough business and no sand bar so patrons or boat drivers can walk to it. Also do you need some kind of permitting in each town, inspections? Maybe other towns it would consider moving to will not allow it? Smalls maybe it. Maybe its not moving anywhere else.

[Biggd]

Maybe they should just scuttle it in the Witches and have rubber power rafts to bring the food out to your boat.

[fatlazyless]

How's about stand up paddle boards paddled by servers who paddle with one arm, and support a bar tray with adult beverages with the other arm!

Sounds like a fun idea and the 60' barge could just drop anchor in deeper waters, and not be needing a shallow sandbar?

[PaugusBayFireFighter]

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

How's about stand up paddle boards paddled by servers who paddle with one arm, and support a bar tray with adult beverages with the other arm!

As Billy Preston sang....Will It Go Round In Circles?

[loonguy]

"How's about stand up paddle boards paddled by servers who paddle with one arm, and support a bar tray with adult beverages with the other arm!"

Now I would pay to see that!

[HellRaZoR004]

You can clearly tell it's a Monday...very cranky bunch with a clear NIMBY agenda. The same story with the speed limit, I don't like it so therefore lets pass a regulation so others can't enjoy the resource.

Instead of complaining on the forum do something. If you don't like it and think it impacts your quality of life, well then you should not have purchased land on a public waterway. If you really believe it impacts your "view tax" then I'm sure you could easily sell it for a discount.

[Biggd]

Originally Posted by HellRaZoR004

You can clearly tell it's a Monday...very cranky bunch with a clear NIMBY agenda. The same story with the speed limit, I don't like it so therefore lets pass a regulation so others can't enjoy the resource.

Instead of complaining on the forum do something. If you don't like it and think it impacts your quality of life, well then you should not have purchased land on a public waterway. If you really believe it impacts your "view tax" then I'm sure you could easily sell it for a discount.

We can tell it's not parked in front of your waterfront.

[Momo]

Clearly posted by a “Have-Not” verses the “Haves”

[loonguy]

Although I am relieved that The Dive is not parking, and highly unlikely to ever park, in my backyard, I do not view this as a NIMBY issue. It is really an issue of how a state resource such as the Lake, which is in the nature of a park, should be used. It is more of a zoning issue, recognizing what is appropriate and respectful of the resource and all that use it.

[Outdoorsman]

Originally Posted by loonguy

Although I am relieved that The Dive is not parking, and highly unlikely to ever park, in my backyard, I do not view this as a NIMBY issue. It is really an issue of how a state resource such as the Lake, which is in the nature of a park, should be used. It is more of a zoning issue, recognizing what is appropriate and respectful of the resource and all that use it.

I would LOVE to see your "Zoning" proposal for each and every city/town with waterfront access.

Edit:
Not just Winnipesaukee.... that would be "unfair" to others.

[loonguy]

Originally Posted by Outdoorsman

I would LOVE to see your "Zoning" proposal for each and every city/town with waterfront access.

Edit:
Not just Winnipesaukee.... that would be "unfair" to others.

The details are beyond my pay grade and expertise. The issue will not be resolved in this forum. I will rely on those directly affected to bring the issue before the appropriate public officials and I look forward to seeing their response.

[HellRaZoR004]

Originally Posted by Momo

Clearly posted by a “Have-Not” verses the “Haves”

LOL, clearly a TIC comment - and assuming it was directed at me. You've made it abundantly clear how pleasant you are. Don't pass judgement on things you clearly don't know anything about.

Be happy for what you have and if it doesn't meet your need then I say again do something about it.

[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by HellRaZoR004

You can clearly tell it's a Monday...very cranky bunch with a clear NIMBY agenda. The same story with the speed limit, I don't like it so therefore lets pass a regulation so others can't enjoy the resource.

Instead of complaining on the forum do something. If you don't like it and think it impacts your quality of life, well then you should not have purchased land on a public waterway. If you really believe it impacts your "view tax" then I'm sure you could easily sell it for a discount.

No need for insults or personal sniping. The majority of the critical posts are from people who are nowhere near Smalls, and prior to the shortcomings becoming apparent, virtually all the posts were interested/supportive.

Also, before you accuse others of having an agenda to keep you from "enjoy(ing) the resource", you might ask yourself whether your neon sign or 80mph boat makes it difficult for them to enjoy the resource.

[HellRaZoR004]

Originally Posted by FlyingScot

No need for insults or personal sniping. The majority of the critical posts are from people who are nowhere near Smalls, and prior to the shortcomings becoming apparent, virtually all the posts were interested/supportive.

Also, before you accuse others of having an agenda to keep you from "enjoy(ing) the resource", you might ask yourself whether your neon sign or 80mph boat makes it difficult for them to enjoy the resource.

You make some valid points. A lot of people are for it, some are against it. Those in the vicinity of where it's been for the past week are very vocal about being against it.

BTW - I personally love hearing and seeing the GFBL boats, and I recognize others don't. At some point we all need to find a happy medium, but creating a law seems overly restrictive (which is where this thread is headed).

[rsmlp]

Originally Posted by HellRaZoR004

You can clearly tell it's a Monday...very cranky bunch with a clear NIMBY agenda. The same story with the speed limit, I don't like it so therefore lets pass a regulation so others can't enjoy the resource.

Instead of complaining on the forum do something. If you don't like it and think it impacts your quality of life, well then you should not have purchased land on a public waterway. If you really believe it impacts your "view tax" then I'm sure you could easily sell it for a discount.

The forum is 80% bitch session and 20% other. There are people out there literally trolling for a comment to invect upon. Sad but reliable responses as I'm sure will follow this one.

[Outdoorsman]

I stand by my NIMBY comment above, that being said....

This business will have about 6 weeks of operation this season. Technically a ground-up build with no real chance to "shake out the bugs" other than to operate for a short [less than 2 months] season.

To spend that time testing what various land owners near various sand bars think of the business is [silly]. A better effort would be to spend those short weeks to see what improvements need to be made to keep the business viable.

I do agree that they should factor in the desires of various land owners, but I doubt many would give them a "thumbs up". Lucky for them, The State of NH and its citizens owns the water.

[Descant]

So there are maybe 5-6 landowners who might be impacted by the Dive, and they are ALL upset and complaining on the Forum? Doubtful. Who has identified themselves as such?
Before I retired, I recall occasional complaints about my business or a product. I also remember that I did business with the complainer's friends and neighbors who said. "I'm a solid customer. That guy complains about everything, and everybody knows he's just a whiner. Don't listen to that #$%&()." Good advice from lots of good clients.