Lyons Den

Lakepilot · 07-09-2009, 06:43 PM

Had lunch today at the Lyons Den and it was as good as always. We had the corner table right by the window and enjoyed the sun for a little while. I had the fish and chips and my wife had a grilled chicken salad. Both were excellent.

This time we came by car. Another couple sat down just after us and had come by boat. They were told they would get a ticket at the dock they had left the boat. The husband left to move the boat and the wife stayed at her table. He came back after 5 or 10 minutes and said he was told by the marine patrol (not the folks who usually issue tickets, but the only uniformed folks there at the time) that he couldn't park the boat on any of the docks. He came back to the restaurant, picked up his wife and left. What a shame for the Lyons Den.

We usually come by boat, but I wonder if they are not reserving one side of one dock for out of towners now? It was one of our favorite places to go in the boat.

rick35 · 07-09-2009, 09:26 PM

That's odd. We were just there for lunch on Sunday and it still said three hour docking. I hope they didn't change it. Its not like there isn't enough space for the Gilford residents.

Slickcraft · 07-10-2009, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Lakepilot

This time we came by car. Another couple sat down just after us and had come by boat. They were told they would get a ticket at the dock they had left the boat. The husband left to move the boat and the wife stayed at her table. He came back after 5 or 10 minutes and said he was told by the marine patrol (not the folks who usually issue tickets, but the only uniformed folks there at the time) that he couldn't park the boat on any of the docks. He came back to the restaurant, picked up his wife and left. What a shame for the Lyons Den.

We usually come by boat, but I wonder if they are not reserving one side of one dock for out of towners now? It was one of our favorite places to go in the boat.

The MPO was wrong (also they have no jurisdiction over the use of the Gilford town docks). The 3 hour section of docking can be used by anyone. Only the 8 and 12 hour sections are reserved for island residents. There is ample signage.

Lakepilot · 07-10-2009, 05:55 AM

I'm glad they were wrong. It's a great restaurant and I'd hate to not be able to reach it by boat.

nerual721 · 07-12-2009, 03:53 PM

I spent a little time in the MPOffice on Friday - trying to get to the bottom of who scared away my customers with incorrect information. Apparently they were not sure so they called the Gilford Police dispatch and were misinformed by the Police Department. So, I called the police department and found out that indeed they were also confused about the new regulations for the Glendale Parking Facility. The upshot is that the Gilford PD sent an officer Bradbury down to speak with me in person and to apologize for all of the misinformation. Indeed the 3 hour dock can be used by anyone for a maximum of 3 hours. The 8 hour and 12 hour docks are reserved for Gilford Island Residents and it clearly - very clearly - states this at the end of the docks. Unfortunately the people who are in charge of monitoring and ticketing the docks and parking facility are not very customer service oriented. We have watched them over this past weekend - they watch people dock their boats where they are not allowed to dock and say nothing to them. They wait for them to leave or come up to the restaurant and then they go over and ticket them. We had 3 people come by jetski to the tavern today - they went out to find 3 $50 tickets on their jetskis. How much better for the local economy would it be to not upset and insult our vacationers? I am sure that they would gladly have relocated to the 3 hour dock had they been asked. I doubt that they will come back to this area any time soon as $150 makes for an expensive lunch.

upthesaukee · 07-12-2009, 09:56 PM

...the good will the monitor / ticket writers could have established, with a simple "Sorry, those docks are for island residents. You can park over here (and if necessary) if there is space." Of course, maybe the town doesn't want them to be customer oriented, and just write out those tickets.

Sorry, Lauren, lousy for your business. Maybe calls and letters to the selectmen on this will help you.

Old Hubbard Rd · 07-22-2009, 11:02 AM

Wife and I stopped by Lyons Den last PM and we got the table right in front of the window. It was our 1st time there together. My neighbors and I visited a couple years ago for brunch but my wife was not available for that brunch. Even though it was raining the view was still nice. Dinner was good. The waitstaff was a perfect 10!!

Seaplane Pilot · 07-22-2009, 12:07 PM

These bureaucrats all need a lesson in economics and customer service. Why oh why is it necessary for them to treat people poorly (tourists and locals alike) that are trying to spend their hard earned money in the Town? It's another "Ames Farm" situation - kill the local business that's been supporting these bureaucrats' out of control spending for many years.

BroadHopper · 07-22-2009, 01:00 PM

As I posted on another thread, The island residents are upset about the new regulations. They have been parking in the three hour zone to spite the town residents.

I ask the Gilford officer about the situation. There is no rule or regulation that the Gilford Island residents can not park there. I can feel Lyon's Den and Gilford non-island residents pain.

ishoot308 · 07-22-2009, 02:47 PM

"As I posted on another thread, The island residents are upset about the new regulations. They have been parking in the three hour zone to spite the town residents."

Do you know this for a fact because I certainly do not see this happening. To the contrary, I see most island residents leaving those spaces open whenever possible. Sometimes there is no choice if all the island docks are full. But I have yet to meet any island person that spiteful.

Dan

BroadHopper · 07-26-2009, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ishoot308

"As I posted on another thread, The island residents are upset about the new regulations. They have been parking in the three hour zone to spite the town residents."

Do you know this for a fact because I certainly do not see this happening. To the contrary, I see most island residents leaving those spaces open whenever possible. Sometimes there is no choice if all the island docks are full. But I have yet to meet any island person that spiteful.

Dan

This was on July 6 around late afternoon. Two boats with Gilford stickers on it were on the 3 hour side. I am not going to go into details as what the boats look like. One of the boats had people in the boat sitting around. I ask them why they are not docking at the Gilford residents side. As there are people waiting to dock here. They didn't answer. I ask them if they were 'spiting' the town because of the new rules and a man says, 'Maybe'. I spoke to the officer on duty and he says there is nothing he can do. They is no rules that they can't dock there. I have another town resident that was trying to pull his boat out as a witness. Hopefully the officer can remember this situation and explain it to you.

chowda · 07-26-2009, 05:47 PM

Great lunch, great dinner, great prices, great service! What else can I say!

Don · 07-05-2011, 11:54 AM

We finally tried the Lyons' Den last Thursday and it certainly lived up to the great reviews in this thread. We had a reservation and somehow were given the prime table at the center of the large window pictured below. The atmosphere, wine, food and service were all excellent and we had a very nice anniversary dinner. Lauren came by our table to chat a little and make sure everything was perfect.

Lauren and the Lyons' Den get five stars from us. We'll be back.

Jonas Pilot · 07-05-2011, 12:10 PM

Wow! What a view.

Slickcraft · 07-05-2011, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Don

We finally tried the Lyons' Den last Thursday and it certainly lived up to the great reviews in this thread. We had a reservation and somehow were given the prime table at the center of the large window pictured below. The atmosphere, wine, food and service were all excellent and we had a very nice anniversary dinner. Lauren came by our table to chat a little and make sure everything was perfect.

Lauren and the Lyons' Den get five stars from us. We'll be back.

That is the table that we reserve for our anniversary dinner every year (provided that I remember

).

Wolfeboro_Baja · 07-22-2009, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by nerual721

Unfortunately the people who are in charge of monitoring and ticketing the docks and parking facility are not very customer service oriented. We have watched them over this past weekend - they watch people dock their boats where they are not allowed to dock and say nothing to them. They wait for them to leave or come up to the restaurant and then they go over and ticket them. We had 3 people come by jetski to the tavern today - they went out to find 3 $50 tickets on their jetskis. How much better for the local economy would it be to not upset and insult our vacationers? I am sure that they would gladly have relocated to the 3 hour dock had they been asked. I doubt that they will come back to this area any time soon as $150 makes for an expensive lunch.

This is exactly the reason my wife and I haven't been to the Lyon's Den yet; I haven't been able to figure out IF there's public dock space and where it is!! Thank you nerual721 for getting to the bottom of this! Hopefully, we'll be able to visit your establishment next week when we're up on vacation!

I also agree with upthesaukee and seaplanepilot; town officials and/or their representatives should be helping visitors to the area, not ruining their day!

Slickcraft · 07-22-2009, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfeboro_Baja

This is exactly the reason my wife and I haven't been to the Lyon's Den yet; I haven't been able to figure out IF there's public dock space and where it is!!

As you approach the docks by boat there are three docks. From the lake view, right side of right dock is pick up drop off only. The left side of the right dock is public 3 hour docking.

The middle dock and the left dock (again looking in from the lake) are island residents only.

As an island resident, I have never parked in the public 3 hour section nor have I ever seen a island boat doing that.

Enjoy the Lyon's Den, we often do.

07-12-2009, 03:53 PM	#5
nerual721 Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Under the restaurant Posts: 23 Thanks: 1 Thanked 34 Times in 5 Posts	Docking confusing and the Glendale Parking Facility I spent a little time in the MPOffice on Friday - trying to get to the bottom of who scared away my customers with incorrect information. Apparently they were not sure so they called the Gilford Police dispatch and were misinformed by the Police Department. So, I called the police department and found out that indeed they were also confused about the new regulations for the Glendale Parking Facility. The upshot is that the Gilford PD sent an officer Bradbury down to speak with me in person and to apologize for all of the misinformation. Indeed the 3 hour dock can be used by anyone for a maximum of 3 hours. The 8 hour and 12 hour docks are reserved for Gilford Island Residents and it clearly - very clearly - states this at the end of the docks. Unfortunately the people who are in charge of monitoring and ticketing the docks and parking facility are not very customer service oriented. We have watched them over this past weekend - they watch people dock their boats where they are not allowed to dock and say nothing to them. They wait for them to leave or come up to the restaurant and then they go over and ticket them. We had 3 people come by jetski to the tavern today - they went out to find 3 $50 tickets on their jetskis. How much better for the local economy would it be to not upset and insult our vacationers? I am sure that they would gladly have relocated to the 3 hour dock had they been asked. I doubt that they will come back to this area any time soon as $150 makes for an expensive lunch.

07-12-2009, 09:56 PM	#6
upthesaukee Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Alton Bay Posts: 5,600 Blog Entries: 2 Thanks: 2,462 Thanked 1,983 Times in 1,083 Posts	Just imagine... ...the good will the monitor / ticket writers could have established, with a simple "Sorry, those docks are for island residents. You can park over here (and if necessary) if there is space." Of course, maybe the town doesn't want them to be customer oriented, and just write out those tickets. Sorry, Lauren, lousy for your business. Maybe calls and letters to the selectmen on this will help you. __________________ I Live Here... I am always UPTHESAUKEE !!!!

07-22-2009, 11:02 AM	#7
Old Hubbard Rd Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 462 Thanks: 141 Thanked 54 Times in 33 Posts	Dinner at Lyons Den Wife and I stopped by Lyons Den last PM and we got the table right in front of the window. It was our 1st time there together. My neighbors and I visited a couple years ago for brunch but my wife was not available for that brunch. Even though it was raining the view was still nice. Dinner was good. The waitstaff was a perfect 10!!

07-22-2009, 01:00 PM	#9
BroadHopper Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Laconia NH Posts: 5,582 Thanks: 3,224 Thanked 1,106 Times in 796 Posts	Gilford island residents. As I posted on another thread, The island residents are upset about the new regulations. They have been parking in the three hour zone to spite the town residents. I ask the Gilford officer about the situation. There is no rule or regulation that the Gilford Island residents can not park there. I can feel Lyon's Den and Gilford non-island residents pain. __________________ Someday may never be an actual day.

07-22-2009, 02:47 PM	#10
ishoot308 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Gilford, NH / Welch Island Posts: 6,281 Thanks: 2,402 Thanked 5,291 Times in 2,062 Posts	Fact?? "As I posted on another thread, The island residents are upset about the new regulations. They have been parking in the three hour zone to spite the town residents." Do you know this for a fact because I certainly do not see this happening. To the contrary, I see most island residents leaving those spaces open whenever possible. Sometimes there is no choice if all the island docks are full. But I have yet to meet any island person that spiteful. Dan

07-09-2009, 06:43 PM	#1
Lakepilot Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 446 Thanks: 70 Thanked 57 Times in 40 Posts	Had lunch today at the Lyons Den and it was as good as always. We had the corner table right by the window and enjoyed the sun for a little while. I had the fish and chips and my wife had a grilled chicken salad. Both were excellent. This time we came by car. Another couple sat down just after us and had come by boat. They were told they would get a ticket at the dock they had left the boat. The husband left to move the boat and the wife stayed at her table. He came back after 5 or 10 minutes and said he was told by the marine patrol (not the folks who usually issue tickets, but the only uniformed folks there at the time) that he couldn't park the boat on any of the docks. He came back to the restaurant, picked up his wife and left. What a shame for the Lyons Den. We usually come by boat, but I wonder if they are not reserving one side of one dock for out of towners now? It was one of our favorite places to go in the boat.

07-09-2009, 09:26 PM	#2
rick35 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Bear Island/Merrimack Posts: 807 Thanks: 58 Thanked 203 Times in 130 Posts	That's odd. We were just there for lunch on Sunday and it still said three hour docking. I hope they didn't change it. Its not like there isn't enough space for the Gilford residents.

07-10-2009, 05:55 AM	#4
Lakepilot Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 446 Thanks: 70 Thanked 57 Times in 40 Posts	I'm glad they were wrong. It's a great restaurant and I'd hate to not be able to reach it by boat.

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07-22-2009, 12:07 PM	#8
Seaplane Pilot Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,177 Thanks: 664 Thanked 943 Times in 368 Posts	These bureaucrats all need a lesson in economics and customer service. Why oh why is it necessary for them to treat people poorly (tourists and locals alike) that are trying to spend their hard earned money in the Town? It's another "Ames Farm" situation - kill the local business that's been supporting these bureaucrats' out of control spending for many years.

07-26-2009, 05:47 PM	#12
chowda Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Haven't had a bad meal yet! Great lunch, great dinner, great prices, great service! What else can I say!

07-05-2011, 11:54 AM	#13
Don Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 34 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 6 Thanked 15 Times in 7 Posts	We finally tried the Lyons' Den last Thursday and it certainly lived up to the great reviews in this thread. We had a reservation and somehow were given the prime table at the center of the large window pictured below. The atmosphere, wine, food and service were all excellent and we had a very nice anniversary dinner. Lauren came by our table to chat a little and make sure everything was perfect. Lauren and the Lyons' Den get five stars from us. We'll be back.

07-05-2011, 12:10 PM	#14
Jonas Pilot Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Wolfeboro, New Hampshire is my home, 24-7-365 Posts: 1,686 Thanks: 1,047 Thanked 336 Times in 189 Posts	Wow! Wow! What a view.