Summer Camps and Speed Limits

Islander · 07-02-2008, 06:27 PM

So the entire thread is a troll.

What possible difference does it make to a speed limit if the camps pay taxes? Do untaxed camps have less right to support a speed limit they think will make their children safer?

BI really is bipolar!

KonaChick · 07-02-2008, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Islander

So the entire thread is a troll.

What possible difference does it make to a speed limit if the camps pay taxes? Do untaxed camps have less right to support a speed limit they think will make their children safer?

BI really is bipolar!

Major snafu...i think you mean I am bi-polar not BI! Oh dear....and as I mentioned this thread was started in the SPEED LIMIT debate thead but was moved. I'm afaid I have to post a

at your major snafu!!!

Bear Islander · 07-02-2008, 08:22 PM

Camps have kept their small boats off of the lake during weekends and other high traffic days. That is a FACT you can readily confirm if you wish. And Parrothead has confirmed it as well.

Woodsy and others has stated that a speed limit will reduce the number of high performance boats on the lake. That is a PREDICTION.

Less boats and less speed may allow the camps to increase their small boat usage of the lake. That is a HOPE.

I am bipolar. I have skied to both poles.

KonaChick · 07-02-2008, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Bear Islander

Camps have kept their small boats off of the lake during weekends and other high traffic days. That is a FACT you can readily confirm if you wish. And Parrothead has confirmed it as well.

Woodsy and others has stated that a speed limit will reduce the number of high performance boats on the lake. That is a PREDICTION.

Less boats and less speed may allow the camps to increase their small boat usage of the lake. That is a HOPE.

I am bipolar. I have skied to both poles.

Yes, I got that joke after I posted, I'm not known for being "quick".

So when you said that less boats = less polution, noise etc. you were talking about certain kinds of boats. Small boats are OK with you. Tell me how many "small" boats would it take to make up a "big" boat for example do 5 "small" boats = 1 "big" boat and so on?? So are you saying it's fine to have as many "small" boats on the lake as can fit but no "big" boats? I'm confused...and if you can imagine I'm not even an original blonde (sorry in advance to all true blondes).

Bear Islander · 07-02-2008, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by KonaChick

Yes, I got that joke after I posted, I'm not known for being "quick".

So when you said that less boats = less polution, noise etc. you were talking about certain kinds of boats. Small boats are OK with you. Tell me how many "small" boats would it take to make up a "big" boat for example do 5 "small" boats = 1 "big" boat and so on?? So are you saying it's fine to have as many "small" boats on the lake as can fit but no "big" boats? I'm confused...and if you can imagine I'm not even an original blonde (sorry in advance to all true blondes).

I would say forget small and big. Horsepower is the simplest way to look at the problem. Unrestricted horsepower on a crowded lake and community water supply makes no sense to me.

When the time comes that a lake needs to have restrictions because of crowding or pollution, the obvious answer is to start with the biggest boats. In my opinion we are at that point now.

The handwriting is on the wall. Everything is going toward more environmentally friendly. Nothing is moving in the other direction. The future of boating on all lakes will be low power, low impact and low pollution. The days of big cruisers and performance boats on lakes are numbered. The only question is how long will it take.

pm203 · 07-11-2008, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Bear Islander

Camps have kept their small boats off of the lake during weekends and other high traffic days.
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And, what is wrong with that? Camps should keep their small boats off the lake on busy weekends. Any individual in charge of young children should do their best to keep their children safe. If that means no boating on the weekends , so be it. You still have 5 weekdays and early mornings anytime of the week to boat. Also, on another note, alot of my fellow high performance boaters are not going to go away. In fact, a couple of them are super charging their boats to go faster. Don't forget, the lake season is a short season. Alot of people ship their boats to Fl for the winter and use them year round. So, when on the lake, for several short months, they may be a little more careful where they go fast and how often they go fast. But, they still will come and enjoy the lake. Your view of the lake and what you want for it is not only selfish, it is wrong .

codeman671 · 07-11-2008, 08:34 PM

I have noticed a considerable presence of MP in the vicinity of Camp Lawrence (I look across at it) this season. I am sure the multiple calls that I put in asking for them to consider making the tip of Mark a NWZ probably helped. Much more than ever before. Looking out the window now a RIB is going by, and last night at this time I crossed paths with one out front as well as I was arriving home.

Today, the camp boat was towing skiers all day long and the canoes were traveling the shoreline as they always do, including weekends. No lack of boat travel for them during the week, and I see them doing the same activities on the weekend, just not skiing mid-day. Simply too much traffic, not a speed issue. It gets downright rough out front on the weekends from all the wakes. Too rough to ski or wakeboard.

07-02-2008, 06:27 PM	#1
Islander Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 321 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 3 Posts	So the entire thread is a troll. What possible difference does it make to a speed limit if the camps pay taxes? Do untaxed camps have less right to support a speed limit they think will make their children safer? BI really is bipolar!

07-02-2008, 08:22 PM	#3
Bear Islander Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bear Island Posts: 1,766 Thanks: 32 Thanked 441 Times in 207 Posts	Camps have kept their small boats off of the lake during weekends and other high traffic days. That is a FACT you can readily confirm if you wish. And Parrothead has confirmed it as well. Woodsy and others has stated that a speed limit will reduce the number of high performance boats on the lake. That is a PREDICTION. Less boats and less speed may allow the camps to increase their small boat usage of the lake. That is a HOPE. I am bipolar. I have skied to both poles.

07-11-2008, 08:34 PM	#7
codeman671 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,604 Thanks: 223 Thanked 856 Times in 519 Posts	I have noticed a considerable presence of MP in the vicinity of Camp Lawrence (I look across at it) this season. I am sure the multiple calls that I put in asking for them to consider making the tip of Mark a NWZ probably helped. Much more than ever before. Looking out the window now a RIB is going by, and last night at this time I crossed paths with one out front as well as I was arriving home. Today, the camp boat was towing skiers all day long and the canoes were traveling the shoreline as they always do, including weekends. No lack of boat travel for them during the week, and I see them doing the same activities on the weekend, just not skiing mid-day. Simply too much traffic, not a speed issue. It gets downright rough out front on the weekends from all the wakes. Too rough to ski or wakeboard.