Traffic Circle

[froggy]

Originally Posted by Weirs guy

Maybe because cobblestones are usually for sidewalks and roads are paved?

I think this issue has been beaten to death. the center cobblestones are for the last wheels of a trailer, while the vehicle stays on the pavement.

[Rattlesnake Guy]

I will say that I was very impressed by how reliably the drivers in England would yield correctly 100% of the time. I thought that Americans could never be trusted to always yield. That trust is something we need to develop over time as we Americans learn to use the circles correctly as if our lives depended on it.

[froggy]

Originally Posted by Rattlesnake Guy

I will say that I was very impressed by how reliably the drivers in England would yield correctly 100% of the time. I thought that Americans could never be trusted to always yield. That trust is something we need to develop over time as we Americans learn to use the circles correctly as if our lives depended on it.

VERY TRUE. Although I last drove in England 28 years a go, but in Switzerland & Austria 6 years ago and also 3 years ago.
I grew up and learned to drive in town on south shore of Boston where there is a large rotary; it really was second nature to drive through it: yield when entering!

[Weirs guy]

Originally Posted by froggy

I think this issue has been beaten to death. the center cobblestones are for the last wheels of a trailer, while the vehicle stays on the pavement.

Wow, did you totally miss my point! Longislander had stated "Most four-wheelers avoid the "cobble" stone circle through instinct, not observation!", and my statement was geared towards the fact that I personally see cobble stones and think "pedestrian", not "car". Hence the instinct vs. observation.

[longislander]

I personally see cobble stones and think "pedestrian", not "car". Hence the instinct vs. observation.

Maybe I'm dating myself (Did he say he's dating himself...!) but my experience is just the opposite of your view!

In my earlier years I can remember cobble stone roads (no not Roman... I grew-up in Lowell Mass.) but have never seen cobble stone "sidewalks".

I should have noted in the previous post that the cobble stones are ground level, not elevated, as might be expected in ornamental inner circle, as opposed to a functional inner circle!

[michael c]

I drive a ford F-250 with the full "4 doors " .The only reason I have this is so my rather large dog can fit in my truck . I would have loved to buy an F-150 but my litle girl just couldn't fit in an f-150 ...Anyway, I seem to always find my back tires up on the curb stones or whatever you want to call then ....there is not even enough room [just barely] for a big pickup to navigate through there ...they are either looking for a place for an accident to happen or trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist...what do we expect from the morons in Concord ...Need i say more ?

[the frenchman's wife]

Originally Posted by michael c

...what do we expect from the morons [ all of them ] from Concord ,,,,concord is now full of people from Massachusetts ...Need i say more ?

Whoa! You're really not trying to make this a NH vs MA thing, are you?
It seems to me that a lot of people here may be a tad upset about that remark.

[Weirs guy]

OK, I'm ready to come clean.

When I go thru the circle of death, if theres no traffic coming from one of the other entrances, I usually just drive straight, right up over the dang cobblestones. Anyone else do this?

[Rattlesnake Guy]

Originally Posted by michael c

...what do we expect from the morons [ all of them ] from Concord ,,,,concord is now full of people from Massachusetts ...Need i say more ?

Michael,
Many wonderful people live in or come from Massachusetts. Many of our forum family among them. I am holding out hope that a significant number of the Massachusetts residents that have brilliantly chosen to come to the wonderful State of New Hampshire should be judged by their obvious good taste and intelligence with their first decision. It is our job to remind them why they moved here.

[Mee-n-Mac]

Besides MA seems to be on an anti-rotary bent. I know they got rid of the rotary over Rt3 @ Drum Hill. Now as for "traffic calming circles" ... I don't know. Has anyone seen one in MA ? (I think I saw some in Canada.) I wonder how calm the traffic is when the drivers are loosing their cool ?


I'm blaming the Canadians for this !

[michael c]

Originally Posted by Mee-n-Mac

Besides MA seems to be on an anti-rotary bent. I know they got rid of the rotary over Rt3 @ Drum Hill. Now as for "traffic calming circles" ... I don't know. Has anyone seen one in MA ? (I think I saw some in Canada.) I wonder how calm the traffic is when the drivers are loosing their cool ?


I'm blaming the Canadians for this !

You are of course,correct. I editted it before even reading the few comments after mine

[longislander]

Besides MA seems to be on an anti-rotary bent. I know they got rid of the rotary over Rt3 @ Drum Hill.

I go under "Drum Hill" in Chelmsford, MA a few times a month and don't see where MA got rid of the rotary?? Unless adding a few traffic lights around a rotary is getting rid of the rotary?

The only change I've noticed is now the traffic backs-up and sits!!

[froggy]

Originally Posted by Mee-n-Mac

Besides MA seems to be on an anti-rotary bent. I know they got rid of the rotary over Rt3 @ Drum Hill. Now as for "traffic calming circles" ... I don't know. Has anyone seen one in MA ?

Do you refer to Chemsford, Route 4? It's still a rotary. One in Somerville also has traffic lights.

I grew up and learned to drive (40+ years ago) through rotary on Route 3A in Hingham, MA, and it still exists! IT STILL EXISTS!

And I admit one was removed on Route 3 at entrance to Sagamore bridge over Cape Cod Canal, but it's a whole different traffic situation.

The Meredith one is too small in diameter, making merging very difficult and almost dangerous!

[longislander]

Do you refer to Chemsford, Route 4? It's still a rotary. One in Somerville also has traffic lights.

The Meredith one is too small in diameter, making merging very difficult and almost dangerous!

Hey froggy !

I'm 61; grew up in Lowell (adjacent to Chelmsford); have been driving an 18 for the last 13 years(including 53 footer) ( since retirement); was previously in mgt. (MBA); and do not think the Meredith go-round is dangerous at all! I live on Long Island on the Big Lake!

The drum hill rotary (east bound is truck restricted) has lights that
that defeat the purpose of a "go-round"!

Just got back today from a two week road vacation in the South with the wife, and find that go-rounds work fine... ran across quite a few!

Sometimes, not being familiar with a different approach to a problem, causes undue concern....!

[GWC...]

Originally Posted by longislander

Maybe I'm dating myself (Did he say he's dating himself...!) but my experience is just the opposite of your view!

In my earlier years I can remember cobble stone roads (no not Roman... I grew-up in Lowell Mass.) but have never seen cobble stone "sidewalks".

I should have noted in the previous post that the cobble stones are ground level, not elevated, as might be expected in ornamental inner circle, as opposed to a functional inner circle!

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