Internet access on Rattlesnake

Rattlesnake Guy · 11-09-2007, 08:58 PM

I am in for the cable commitment but may not be helpful as I am fed from the Alton bay end on the broads. Do we need 10 in the same area or set of poles?

Rattler · 11-10-2007, 01:48 PM

I would sign up for a cable commitment.

We're on the broads side of Rattlesnake -- right around the middle.

BTW, we have the Verizon laptop card. It works OK for basic mail and limited Web browsing. Expensive though -- I think we're paying around $70 per month, and during the off-season I have very little use for it.

wifi · 11-21-2007, 08:42 AM

I think IPG was saying phone feeds from one side of the island, and the power feeds in from the other side. As far as loss of power, there are fuses up on some of the poles so if there is an overload from, say a tree falling, the fuse would trip and 'theoretically' upstream of the fuse would be saved.

lakershaker · 11-12-2007, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Rattlesnake Guy

I am in for the cable commitment but may not be helpful as I am fed from the Alton bay end on the broads. Do we need 10 in the same area or set of poles?

All of the cables - phone and electric - for Rattlesnake come under water from the area near Smith Point to the tip of the pennisula, so it shouldn't really matter what end of Rattlesnake anyone is on.

For all of you who indicated interest, please PM me with your name and email and I will follow-up.

GWC... · 11-12-2007, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by lakershaker

All of the cables - phone and electric - for Rattlesnake come under water from the area near Smith Point to the tip of the pennisula, so it shouldn't really matter what end of Rattlesnake anyone is on.

For all of you who indicated interest, please PM me with your name and email and I will follow-up.

Perhaps some thought should be given to Sleepers Island...

Island Phone Guy · 11-20-2007, 12:14 AM

You are half right lakershaker, electric does come in that way but the phone cable comes out of Terrace Hill in Gilford, over Diamond island and then goes to Rattlesnake Isl. on the Diamond island side.

Rattlesnake Guy · 11-20-2007, 11:06 PM

Island phone guy,
I am on the south east end of Rattlesnake on the broads side. The phone and power lines come from the north and from the south. Their is a gap of about 6 lots between the power and telephone feeds. To use house wiring logic, do you know if the power from the two directions is on the same "circuit"? When power is lost on one side, is it necessarily lost on the other side?. With a name like your's, I thought you might know.
Thanks

islandAl · 11-21-2007, 08:17 AM

Most likely, only one would lose power. That totally depends upon the cause of the outage and where the problem is.
With separate feeds (two source points coming to island) and only one is interrupted, then the other line is good and still providing power. You could be out while next door has power if fed from different source.
Could be close as local transformer on the island going out. Past the transformer (downstream) is out but just the other side is still working as that is (upstream) before the problem.

Island Phone Guy · 11-22-2007, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Rattlesnake Guy

Island phone guy,
I am on the south east end of Rattlesnake on the broads side. The phone and power lines come from the north and from the south. Their is a gap of about 6 lots between the power and telephone feeds. To use house wiring logic, do you know if the power from the two directions is on the same "circuit"? When power is lost on one side, is it necessarily lost on the other side?. With a name like your's, I thought you might know.
Thanks

Sorry RG, I can answer probably most phone questions but do not know a lot about power.

Eki · 11-24-2007, 09:00 AM

You can take:

- two wireless routers
- two directv dishes

and get up to 12 miles of line-of-site remote internet service.

So if you have one friend on mainland and one friend on the island and you have line if sight ... you can have internet.

Most ISP's will not let you resell bandwidth, but that doesnt mean you cannot make a free connection to you friend, and get a friendly gift.

Bear Islander · 12-26-2007, 04:20 PM

I missed some of this because I have been away. Getting Metrocast to come to Bear Island took time and persistence.

I doubt they will be interested in bringing cable to other islands because it is expensive to install and maintain. It will take them a long long time to get a return on their investment. However the cable contract between Meredith and Metrocast spelled it out in black and white. If you have ten subscribers per cable mile they must wire the island or be in violation of their contract. Violating the contact endangers the license they need in order to be a telephone utility.

What you are asking for is called a "Line Extension". Send them a request in writing to the Metrocast corporate offices, copy your town manager. Don't take no for an answer.

I included a map showing the distances involved and a list of homeowners wanting cable. I also included a check for almost two thousand dollars made out to Metrocast. It was a years payment in advance for ten subscribers at the monthly minimum. Back then the monthly minimum was $16 and change, now it is $18 and change.

They never cashed the check, I didn't think they would. I did it to shut down their "payment in advance" requirement from the contract.

After they agree it will still take time. There are all kinds of permits including the Army Corps of Engineers so they can lay an underwater fiber optic cable. Plus the telephone and electric companies need time to replace older poles or poles that are to short so they can move their wiring to make room for cable.

Good Luck!

lakershaker · 11-21-2007, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Island Phone Guy

You are half right lakershaker, electric does come in that way but the phone cable comes out of Terrace Hill in Gilford, over Diamond island and then goes to Rattlesnake Isl. on the Diamond island side.

Wow, you learn something new everyday. Makes sense I guess looking at a map as Diamond is closer, but doesn't have electricity only phone. Thanks for the info!

11-20-2007, 11:06 PM	#7
Rattlesnake Guy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,254 Thanks: 423 Thanked 366 Times in 175 Posts	Welcome to people bearing information. Island phone guy, I am on the south east end of Rattlesnake on the broads side. The phone and power lines come from the north and from the south. Their is a gap of about 6 lots between the power and telephone feeds. To use house wiring logic, do you know if the power from the two directions is on the same "circuit"? When power is lost on one side, is it necessarily lost on the other side?. With a name like your's, I thought you might know. Thanks

11-21-2007, 08:17 AM	#8
islandAl Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mountonboro Posts: 200 Thanks: 12 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Depends Most likely, only one would lose power. That totally depends upon the cause of the outage and where the problem is. With separate feeds (two source points coming to island) and only one is interrupted, then the other line is good and still providing power. You could be out while next door has power if fed from different source. Could be close as local transformer on the island going out. Past the transformer (downstream) is out but just the other side is still working as that is (upstream) before the problem.

11-09-2007, 08:58 PM	#1
Rattlesnake Guy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,254 Thanks: 423 Thanked 366 Times in 175 Posts	I am in for the cable commitment but may not be helpful as I am fed from the Alton bay end on the broads. Do we need 10 in the same area or set of poles?

11-10-2007, 01:48 PM	#2
Rattler Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 35 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	I would sign up for a cable commitment. We're on the broads side of Rattlesnake -- right around the middle. BTW, we have the Verizon laptop card. It works OK for basic mail and limited Web browsing. Expensive though -- I think we're paying around $70 per month, and during the off-season I have very little use for it.

11-21-2007, 08:42 AM	#3
wifi Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Lakes Region Posts: 1,321 Thanks: 282 Thanked 287 Times in 169 Posts	I think IPG was saying phone feeds from one side of the island, and the power feeds in from the other side. As far as loss of power, there are fuses up on some of the poles so if there is an overload from, say a tree falling, the fuse would trip and 'theoretically' upstream of the fuse would be saved.

11-20-2007, 12:14 AM	#6
Island Phone Guy Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	You are half right lakershaker, electric does come in that way but the phone cable comes out of Terrace Hill in Gilford, over Diamond island and then goes to Rattlesnake Isl. on the Diamond island side.

11-24-2007, 09:00 AM	#10
Eki Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 26 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	You can take: - two wireless routers - two directv dishes and get up to 12 miles of line-of-site remote internet service. So if you have one friend on mainland and one friend on the island and you have line if sight ... you can have internet. Most ISP's will not let you resell bandwidth, but that doesnt mean you cannot make a free connection to you friend, and get a friendly gift.

12-26-2007, 04:20 PM	#11
Bear Islander Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bear Island Posts: 1,764 Thanks: 32 Thanked 441 Times in 207 Posts	I missed some of this because I have been away. Getting Metrocast to come to Bear Island took time and persistence. I doubt they will be interested in bringing cable to other islands because it is expensive to install and maintain. It will take them a long long time to get a return on their investment. However the cable contract between Meredith and Metrocast spelled it out in black and white. If you have ten subscribers per cable mile they must wire the island or be in violation of their contract. Violating the contact endangers the license they need in order to be a telephone utility. What you are asking for is called a "Line Extension". Send them a request in writing to the Metrocast corporate offices, copy your town manager. Don't take no for an answer. I included a map showing the distances involved and a list of homeowners wanting cable. I also included a check for almost two thousand dollars made out to Metrocast. It was a years payment in advance for ten subscribers at the monthly minimum. Back then the monthly minimum was $16 and change, now it is $18 and change. They never cashed the check, I didn't think they would. I did it to shut down their "payment in advance" requirement from the contract. After they agree it will still take time. There are all kinds of permits including the Army Corps of Engineers so they can lay an underwater fiber optic cable. Plus the telephone and electric companies need time to replace older poles or poles that are to short so they can move their wiring to make room for cable. Good Luck!