Ice In

stingray · 01-14-2024, 06:48 PM

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John Mercier · 01-14-2024, 07:21 PM

There must be secondary factors also.
The lake doesn't develop ice evenly; nor do the two lakes that are relatively near each other develop ice at the same rate.

Winnisquam was pretty wide open today. I didn't go by Opechee, but I think Saturday morning that it was iced over. Hard to tell with low visibility that morning.

fatlazyless · 01-15-2024, 06:55 AM

Monday, January 15 is the first day of a forecast ten-day cold snap with temps in the 10-25 degree range.

On January 14 the Lake Winnipesaukee water temp was 37-degrees as reported by the Winni Marine website that's located in the Weirs channel. Lake water needs to be 34-degrees at the surface in order to freeze and become solid ice.

On January 14 there was absolutely no shoreline perimeter ice, anywhere, in the vicinity of Horse Island, or anywhere looking across to Bear or Mark Island.

Meredith Bay close to the big stop-lights intersection, has an area of ice between the island at the Meredith Bay Yacht Club and across the bay where the ice hockey tournament is staged to the town dock on the right, close to the Town Docks restaurant.

John Mercier · 01-15-2024, 06:04 PM

Snow tomorrow... so that would insulate from the colder temps.

C-Bass · 01-15-2024, 08:58 PM

Squam looked ice over today

ApS · 01-16-2024, 08:04 AM

Suppose you dont like how the ice looks?
Brief video:

https://youtube.com/shorts/6AtMgF5fP...0uK8LAbHbsgjMY

(somewhat).

AC2717 · 01-16-2024, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ApS

Suppose you dont like how the ice looks?
Brief video:

https://youtube.com/shorts/6AtMgF5fP...0uK8LAbHbsgjMY

(somewhat).

That is pretty cool, science is awesome

fatlazyless · 01-16-2024, 09:06 AM

As of yesterday, January 15th, while removing my dock, am still seeing some recreational motorboats out there between south Bear Island, Mark and Timber Island making wakes just like the summer time plus it was a beautiful sunny day. Saw a 20' center console and a 20' pontoon a couple different times during the day. I imagine they soon pay good attention to the soon-to-be-here ice formation so's they don't get iced in, somewhere out there?

Was unable to see if it had the red 2024 bow sticker ..... too far away?

A 20' vee hull can probably cut through one inch of ice without much problem while moving up on plane at 20-mph. For a 20' pontoon boat the ice cutting dynamics are probably not too good, and it would just slowly move forward at 5-mph, or something, and smash through the ice similar to a construction barge.

Somewhere in Poland, Latvia or Sweden, maybe they build a 20' recreational boat designed with a strengthened vee hull, designed to cut into and through the ice like a can opener!

dickiej · 01-16-2024, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AC2717

That is pretty cool, science is awesome

This is interesting….with the melting of the permafrost, huge quantities of methane are being released…can we capture it and use it?

John Mercier · 01-16-2024, 12:00 PM

It might cost more than the value of the methane on a commercial level, but I am sure that innovative residents nearby could capture and use it.

But other releases are sudden and hard to detect until after the fact, and probably too hard to capture.... https://www.pbs.org/video/arctic-sinkholes-9jwenj/

01-15-2024, 06:55 AM	#3
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,768 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 300 Thanked 1,017 Times in 740 Posts	Monday, January 15 is the first day of a forecast ten-day cold snap with temps in the 10-25 degree range. On January 14 the Lake Winnipesaukee water temp was 37-degrees as reported by the Winni Marine website that's located in the Weirs channel. Lake water needs to be 34-degrees at the surface in order to freeze and become solid ice. On January 14 there was absolutely no shoreline perimeter ice, anywhere, in the vicinity of Horse Island, or anywhere looking across to Bear or Mark Island. Meredith Bay close to the big stop-lights intersection, has an area of ice between the island at the Meredith Bay Yacht Club and across the bay where the ice hockey tournament is staged to the town dock on the right, close to the Town Docks restaurant. __________________ ... down and out, liv'n that Walmart side of the lake!

01-16-2024, 08:04 AM	#6
ApS Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Florida (Sebring & Keys), Wolfeboro Posts: 5,939 Thanks: 2,209 Thanked 776 Times in 553 Posts	Methane in Ice? Suppose you dont like how the ice looks? Brief video: https://youtube.com/shorts/6AtMgF5fP...0uK8LAbHbsgjMY (somewhat).

01-16-2024, 09:06 AM	#8
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,768 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 300 Thanked 1,017 Times in 740 Posts	..... slice through the ice, recreational boat. As of yesterday, January 15th, while removing my dock, am still seeing some recreational motorboats out there between south Bear Island, Mark and Timber Island making wakes just like the summer time plus it was a beautiful sunny day. Saw a 20' center console and a 20' pontoon a couple different times during the day. I imagine they soon pay good attention to the soon-to-be-here ice formation so's they don't get iced in, somewhere out there? Was unable to see if it had the red 2024 bow sticker ..... too far away? A 20' vee hull can probably cut through one inch of ice without much problem while moving up on plane at 20-mph. For a 20' pontoon boat the ice cutting dynamics are probably not too good, and it would just slowly move forward at 5-mph, or something, and smash through the ice similar to a construction barge. Somewhere in Poland, Latvia or Sweden, maybe they build a 20' recreational boat designed with a strengthened vee hull, designed to cut into and through the ice like a can opener! __________________ ... down and out, liv'n that Walmart side of the lake!

01-14-2024, 06:48 PM	#1
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01-14-2024, 07:21 PM	#2
John Mercier Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Posts: 3,424 Thanks: 3 Thanked 600 Times in 496 Posts	There must be secondary factors also. The lake doesn't develop ice evenly; nor do the two lakes that are relatively near each other develop ice at the same rate. Winnisquam was pretty wide open today. I didn't go by Opechee, but I think Saturday morning that it was iced over. Hard to tell with low visibility that morning.

01-15-2024, 06:04 PM	#4
John Mercier Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Posts: 3,424 Thanks: 3 Thanked 600 Times in 496 Posts	Snow tomorrow... so that would insulate from the colder temps.

01-15-2024, 08:58 PM	#5
C-Bass Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Posts: 157 Thanks: 1 Thanked 34 Times in 17 Posts	Squam looked ice over today

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01-16-2024, 12:00 PM	#10
John Mercier Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Posts: 3,424 Thanks: 3 Thanked 600 Times in 496 Posts	It might cost more than the value of the methane on a commercial level, but I am sure that innovative residents nearby could capture and use it. But other releases are sudden and hard to detect until after the fact, and probably too hard to capture.... https://www.pbs.org/video/arctic-sinkholes-9jwenj/