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Old 02-20-2023, 09:47 AM   #1
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Sarcasm is all well and good. But, I see little to no need to tweak zoning laws to accommodate other’s wishes. Many of us relocated here because of its rural setting. Now, because some feel waiting 45 minutes for a dinner table is unacceptable we have to build multiple housing units. One’s business model must reflect the limitations of the area’s workforce. Enough said, coffee is done!


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Agreed. There's something messed up about moving to a beautiful place and then wanting to change it into something else. McMansions and big condos are both wrong for idyllic areas. Although some level of growth and development is inevitable, and replacing a mess in Meredith was obviously a good thing, we should be doing whatever we can can to preserve what we all love about Winni.
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Agreed. There's something messed up about moving to a beautiful place and then wanting to change it into something else. McMansions and big condos are both wrong for idyllic areas. Although some level of growth and development is inevitable, and replacing a mess in Meredith was obviously a good thing, we should be doing whatever we can can to preserve what we all love about Winni.
Make the lake non-motorized, or very small HP motors, demand pressure would drop fairly quickly.
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Old 02-20-2023, 06:37 PM   #3
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"seeking to build a 118-room resort with 39 dock slips, two ballrooms, and a restaurant and bar, requiring about 300 parking spaces"

As a Tilton resident, I would much rather see this than condos or lord forbid storage buildings... Real resorts are staffed and can toss unruly folks to the curb.

If they do not pull a 'Margate' I am sure the folks who boat on Winninsquam would be happy to have a 200X increase in available restaurants they can boat and dock to access.

My only worry is increased STREET load as that is a single lane each way corner. Driving from Laconia to downtown Tilton is already about a 12-light venture.
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Interesting thing about people...they don't like where they are, so, they move here (Lakes Region), settle in, then decide they don't like where they are, and want to make us change so they will like it. I have a very simple answer, go back where you came from and leave us alone.
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Interesting thing about people...they don't like where they are, so, they move here (Lakes Region), settle in, then decide they don't like where they are, and want to make us change so they will like it. I have a very simple answer, go back where you came from and leave us alone.
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Interesting thing about people...they don't like where they are, so, they move here (Lakes Region), settle in, then decide they don't like where they are, and want to make us change so they will like it. I have a very simple answer, go back where you came from and leave us alone.
I agree. They move here because the taxes are lower, then they decide they want more services which results in more taxes.
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Interesting thing about people...they don't like where they are, so, they move here (Lakes Region), settle in, then decide they don't like where they are, and want to make us change so they will like it. I have a very simple answer, go back where you came from and leave us alone.
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The lake and surrounding towns are prospering. The undesired effect, is more people, which means more development. While to some the Meredith revival is wonderful, to others it was simply to much. Much like the OP, I myself am considering how much longer I will want to stay with the NH lake Region as my summer destination. Fortunately I am up in Moultonborough which is moving at a bit slower pace.

While as a General Rule I don't have a problem with continued development, what I don't like seeing is the effect that it is having on the lake itself. While by all extents the lake is still beautiful and healthy.... there are many things going on, that tell me the lake is declining, the development means more contamination... We now see things on the lake that we didn't see for years, beach closures etc.

What is the proper balance, I certainly do not know.... what I do know is that continued development over time, is going to come with a price to the health of the lakes....
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Interesting thing about people...they don't like where they are, so, they move here (Lakes Region), settle in, then decide they don't like where they are, and want to make us change so they will like it. I have a very simple answer, go back where you came from and leave us alone.
Where they came from is governed by idiots.
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According to the numbers, all the Northeast States have positive growth since the last census, and all of them had positive growth last year.

MA actually had 50% more population growth than NH last year...
And RI and NY grew at relatively the same rate.

The only thing NH is winning the battle on is that we are getting an older population based on median age.
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According to the numbers, all the Northeast States have positive growth since the last census, and all of them had positive growth last year.

MA actually had 50% more population growth than NH last year...
And RI and NY grew at relatively the same rate.

The only thing NH is winning the battle on is that we are getting an older population based on median age.
Not according to Boston.com (The Globe)https://www.boston.com/news/the-bost...1=hp_secondary
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https://worldpopulationreview.com/st...growing-states

The bottom lists each State. Growth Rate for 2023, growth since 2010, and 2023 population.

The Boston links has this at the chart if we look closely. ''New Hampshire and Florida were top destinations for people leaving the Bay State, according to IRS change-of-address data from 2019 to 2020.''

They use an IRS change of address to determine the flow, and have data for 2019 and 2020.
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Old 02-26-2023, 09:10 PM   #13
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Interesting thing about people...they don't like where they are, so, they move here (Lakes Region), settle in, then decide they don't like where they are, and want to make us change so they will like it. I have a very simple answer, go back where you came from and leave us alone.
Where I live there's a medium sized general aviation airport nearby that was built over 100 years ago. Yeah, the planes have gotten bigger and jets frequently use it now, but none of us old timers really made a fuss over it. In fact, many of us enjoyed driving to the airport on a warm Saturday afternoon to sit and watch the planes take off and land as the pilots practiced their touch 'n goes.

Recently, however, there's been tremendous pressure to shut down the airport shut down, and I couldn't figure out why until it clicked one day. As we older folks sell our houses and move on to our next phase in life, it's the new generation buying our houses who don't like the airport.

Kind of blows my mind that someone would move to an area knowing there's an airport nearby and then demand that it be shut down. If they didn't want to be near an airport, they shouldn't have moved here.

I know this doesn't really have much to do with the original post, but your reply made me want to tell this story.
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"seeking to build a 118-room resort with 39 dock slips, two ballrooms, and a restaurant and bar, requiring about 300 parking spaces"

As a Tilton resident, I would much rather see this than condos or lord forbid storage buildings... Real resorts are staffed and can toss unruly folks to the curb.

If they do not pull a 'Margate' I am sure the folks who boat on Winninsquam would be happy to have a 200X increase in available restaurants they can boat and dock to access.

My only worry is increased STREET load as that is a single lane each way corner. Driving from Laconia to downtown Tilton is already about a 12-light venture.
I think at first they were just going to update the cottage colony. It will be interesting to see the additional pressure on the labor force in Tilton.
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When I see these new developments popping up all-around the lake, I'm thinking island life is becoming more appealing ! (at least during summer months).
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