Trespassers on Bear today

codeman671 · 10-23-2022, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by fatlazyless

With all these home cameras all over the place, now-a-days, a group of three paddle kayakers stopping to pee on someone's island home has become like the crime of the century or something.

Hey ...... when you gotta go ...... you gotta go ...... and the water is now too cold at 57-degrees to get in the water to pee in the lake. Fishermen will stand up and pee over the side on their fishing boat but one cannot do that on most kayaks.

You should be honored that they chose your house as a desirable place to stop and pee. Some intangible positive quality must have determined they paddle onto your sandy waterfront for a pit stop. ...... ???

Yes, I feel truly honored….

Next time I hope it’s your house.

tis · 10-24-2022, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by codeman671

Yes, I feel truly honored….

Next time I hope it’s your house.

I laugh every time I read this. Good response!!!

AC2717 · 10-24-2022, 08:30 AM

The woke entitled showing true colors again. I do not even know how this crosses one's mind to do this, i have a friend with a place further up the state and people all the time walk from the street right up his driveway and look in his windows and stay on the property to observe the lake he is on, with signs that he now has to put on his property. started filming, has the signs, started sending to police, still hasnt stopped.

I have it happen a few times a summer as well (which has upticked in the past few years), people who rent across the street from our property walk over with chairs and fishing poles and sit on our beach/dock to enjoy the lake that they do not have access to from where they rent, their answer, oh we are across the street? does that give you the right to walk passed private property signs and use the land, no it does not, but hey no one cares until that same person hurts themselves for stupid reasons on your property and your and your insurance company gets to flip the bill for it. We have actually had to call the police and waste thier time because the people sometimes refuse to leave

Major · 10-24-2022, 09:11 AM

The issue isn't having to relieve oneself. We have all been there. This issue is treating someone else's property as your own. Societal norms are going by the wayside. I can't remember the last time a youngster when introduced to me or my wife called me Mr. and Mrs. So and So. Another example, went to a funeral recently, maybe 20 percent of the attendees were wearing suits or appropriate dresses. It's the little things that go away and then the bigger things erode, like feeling it's okay to treat someone else's property as your own.

It's always bad to generalize, but I blame the late baby boomers for this. This couple appears to be solidly in the demographic. They have systematically destroyed family values, removed societal norms and encouraged bad behavior, e.g., drag shows for children. We see it all around us now and are so desensitized that no one cares.

Regardless of whether they were caught, it is nice to know that at least one of them apologized. Hopefully they learned a lesson.

Woodsy · 10-24-2022, 10:03 AM

Common law in New Hampshire extends the privilege of public access to private lands that are not posted.

That being said, it is not hard to be respectful....

Woodsy

tis · 10-25-2022, 06:57 AM

Either way it doesn't encourage a person to work hard if they just have to give it to somebody else who doesn't care to.

John, are you saying we all need to put no trespassing signs on our property if we don't want others using it as they please? Wow!

ApS · 10-25-2022, 07:10 AM

The law says you're entitled to restrict use of your land to people you want there.

Signs and/or fences indicate such restrictions. Enforcement is a whole different matter.

fatlazyless · 10-25-2022, 07:22 AM

New Hampshire born poet Robert Frost, 1874-1963 .....
'Mending Wall' ... http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem...6/mending-wall ... 1914

hmmmmm ...... something to ponder

John Mercier · 10-25-2022, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by tis

Either way it doesn't encourage a person to work hard if they just have to give it to somebody else who doesn't care to.

John, are you saying we all need to put no trespassing signs on our property if we don't want others using it as they please? Wow!

It is the way that NH works.
For it to be a violation... simple fine... they must be in a place that they do not know that they can't be. Without the signs, non-motorized users plead ignorance of that fact without postings or fences/gates.

For motorized users, we changed the laws... but even those are openly flouted.

Woodsy · 10-25-2022, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by tis

Are you saying we all need to put no trespassing signs on our property if we don't want others using it as they please? Wow!

Common law in New Hampshire extends the privilege of public access to private lands that are not posted. So to answer your question, if you do not want people to trespass on your property, then YES you have to post it as such. There are rules to specifically how it has to be posted.... bright sign every 100 yards, specific lettering height, etc etc etc.

Woodsy

ITD · 10-25-2022, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodsy

Common law in New Hampshire extends the privilege of public access to private lands that are not posted. So to answer your question, if you do not want people to trespass on your property, then YES you have to post it as such. There are rules to specifically how it has to be posted.... bright sign every 100 yards, specific lettering height, etc etc etc.

Woodsy

https://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa.../635/635-4.htm

635:4 Prescribed Manner of Posting. – A person may post his land to prohibit criminal trespass and physical activities by posting signs of durable material with any words describing the physical activity prohibited, such as "No Hunting or Trespassing", printed with block letters no less than 2 inches in height, and with the name and address of the owner or lessee of such land. Such signs shall be posted not more than 100 yards apart on all sides and shall also be posted at gates, bars and commonly used entrances. This section shall not prevent any owner from adding to the language required by this section.
Source. 1977, 284:1, eff. Aug. 21, 1977.

10-24-2022, 08:30 AM	#3
AC2717 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Maynard, MA & Paugus Bay Posts: 2,577 Thanks: 755 Thanked 355 Times in 267 Posts	The woke entitled showing true colors again. I do not even know how this crosses one's mind to do this, i have a friend with a place further up the state and people all the time walk from the street right up his driveway and look in his windows and stay on the property to observe the lake he is on, with signs that he now has to put on his property. started filming, has the signs, started sending to police, still hasnt stopped. I have it happen a few times a summer as well (which has upticked in the past few years), people who rent across the street from our property walk over with chairs and fishing poles and sit on our beach/dock to enjoy the lake that they do not have access to from where they rent, their answer, oh we are across the street? does that give you the right to walk passed private property signs and use the land, no it does not, but hey no one cares until that same person hurts themselves for stupid reasons on your property and your and your insurance company gets to flip the bill for it. We have actually had to call the police and waste thier time because the people sometimes refuse to leave __________________ Capt. of the "No Worries"

10-24-2022, 10:03 AM	#5
Woodsy Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Weirs Beach Posts: 1,966 Thanks: 80 Thanked 980 Times in 440 Posts	Common law in New Hampshire extends the privilege of public access to private lands that are not posted. That being said, it is not hard to be respectful.... Woodsy __________________ The only way to eliminate ignorant behavior is through education. You can't fix stupid.

10-25-2022, 07:10 AM	#7
ApS Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Florida (Sebring & Keys), Wolfeboro Posts: 5,939 Thanks: 2,209 Thanked 776 Times in 553 Posts	Fences Make Good Neighbors The law says you're entitled to restrict use of your land to people you want there. Signs and/or fences indicate such restrictions. Enforcement is a whole different matter.

10-25-2022, 07:22 AM	#8
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,766 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 300 Thanked 1,016 Times in 740 Posts	'Good fences make good neighbors.' New Hampshire born poet Robert Frost, 1874-1963 ..... 'Mending Wall' ... http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem...6/mending-wall ... 1914 hmmmmm ...... something to ponder

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10-24-2022, 09:11 AM	#4
Major Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Laconia Posts: 1,082 Thanks: 446 Thanked 1,020 Times in 426 Posts	The issue isn't having to relieve oneself. We have all been there. This issue is treating someone else's property as your own. Societal norms are going by the wayside. I can't remember the last time a youngster when introduced to me or my wife called me Mr. and Mrs. So and So. Another example, went to a funeral recently, maybe 20 percent of the attendees were wearing suits or appropriate dresses. It's the little things that go away and then the bigger things erode, like feeling it's okay to treat someone else's property as your own. It's always bad to generalize, but I blame the late baby boomers for this. This couple appears to be solidly in the demographic. They have systematically destroyed family values, removed societal norms and encouraged bad behavior, e.g., drag shows for children. We see it all around us now and are so desensitized that no one cares. Regardless of whether they were caught, it is nice to know that at least one of them apologized. Hopefully they learned a lesson.

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