Car Dealer 'Admin' fees' ?

[TiltonBB]

Corvettes, starting in 1953 had a "C" designation that was changed with each significant style change. For example: The 2014 through 2019 Corvette is the "C7"

When the mid engine corvette was introduced in 2020 it became the "C8". It is obviously significantly different than previous Corvettes just because of the mid engine and by necessity for things like cooling the style had to be a lot different.

I bought it because it's an economy car. 29 MPG on the highway! (No need to mention 0 to 60 in 2.8 seconds, that is just a bonus)

[BroadHopper]

There was a guy from Tilton NH named Herbert Shaw. He used to trade his Corvette in for the latest year as soon as they hit the showroom! His license plate was HHS. Is he still around? He went to Belknap College.

[TheTimeTraveler]

Car purchase "administrative fees" are nothing but additional profits for the car dealership.

Additionally, one has to question a $500 admin. fee for a vehicle. That is a half weeks pay for some folks. Does it take 20 hours to do the paperwork?

Those admin. fees are actually built into the asking price, so paying an additional charge does nothing but line someones pocket.

[upthesaukee]

Originally Posted by BroadHopper

There was a guy from Tilton NH named Herbert Shaw. He used to trade his Corvette in for the latest year as soon as they hit the showroom! His license plate was HHS. Is he still around? He went to Belknap College.

A search on the DMV site shows that a standard passenger car plate with "HHS" is available, but that is also not a guarantee.

Dave

[SAMIAM]

Originally Posted by TiltonBB

Corvettes, starting in 1953 had a "C" designation that was changed with each significant style change. For example: The 2014 through 2019 Corvette is the "C7"

When the mid engine corvette was introduced in 2020 it became the "C8". It is obviously significantly different than previous Corvettes just because of the mid engine and by necessity for things like cooling the style had to be a lot different.

I bought it because it's an economy car. 29 MPG on the highway! (No need to mention 0 to 60 in 2.8 seconds, that is just a bonus)

No one can say that you are not helping to look out for our planet
That's almost as economical as a Prius.....:

[fatlazyless]

What color is it? Is it black? And, does Chevy make a new Corvette with a stick-shift and a clutch pedal, and can it get a trailer hitch for towing leafs, brush and old snowblowers to the local town transfer station like my Subaru?

[TiltonBB]

Shadow Gray Metallic. I am very happy with the color but only 5.6% of buyers ordered it and they only offered it in 2020.

No stick, and I doubt they will. The logistics with the mid engine make it difficult. Only 26% of buyers wanted manuals in 2019 so they discontinued it, at least for now.

I think most Corvette owners have another vehicle to go to the dump.

But if you really wanted to tow a trailer:

[fatlazyless]

How's about a slot for a cd-disc music ike my Subaru has ....... betcha it ain't got no cd-disk player in that there Corvette of your's?

[John Mercier]

Manual transmission will go the way of the Dodo...
Drive-by wire allows them to offer so much more.

[fatlazyless]

Originally Posted by John Mercier

Manual transmission will go the way of the Dodo...

Just yesterday I removed the old Belknap Subaru sticker next to the tail light and pressed on a round bumper sticker with a 5-speed shift pattern surrounded by two words; "Endangered Species." .....

This 2014 5-speed Subaru is going the distance ....... to 225,000-miles and more! New World Auto in Plymouth is where it is going for brakes and everything else ..... but so far, driving from 96k to 113-k, it has needed nothing except Castrol Edge oil & the cheapest Fram oil filter changes at Walmart for $46.44 plus tire rotation-ten dollars and a new trailer hitch & tail lights, connector hook-up that actually works at New World Auto for $525. .....

You know the mechanic at Walmart who did the last oil change actually put his initials on the el cheapo Fram oil filter with red plasti dip ..... how about that! He signed his work.

First gear is very slow starting from a stop light, so's I usually start it off in 2nd gear. Try doing that with an automatic! This Subaru has 200-hp with a horizontally opposed 4-cylinder engine and weighs 3000-lbs so it's a wee bit slow, or something.

[TiltonBB]

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

Just yesterday I removed the old Belknap Subaru sticker next to the tail light and pressed on a round bumper sticker with a 5-speed shift pattern surrounded by two words; "Endangered Species." .....

This 2014 5-speed Subaru is going the distance ....... to 225,000-miles and more! New World Auto in Plymouth is where it is going for brakes and everything else ..... but so far, driving from 96k to 113-k, it has needed nothing except Castrol Edge oil & the cheapest Fram oil filter changes at Walmart for $46.44 plus tire rotation-ten dollars and a new trailer hitch & tail lights, connector hook-up that actually works at New World Auto for $525. .....

First gear is very slow starting from a stop light, so's I usually start it off in 2nd gear. Try doing that with an automatic! This Subaru has 200-hp with a horizontally opposed 4-cylinder engine and weighs 3000-lbs so it's a wee bit slow, or something.

So..............We know you can afford a nice new car. (Several, in fact)

Why the obsession with driving old high mileage manual transmission clunkers with maintenance issues? Something to keep you busy?

Still have your Class B CDL? There is a nationwide shortage of over 100,000 CDL licensed drivers. Get back in the game! Find the right local company (that didn't buy the sissy trucks with automatic transmissions) and you can shift all day long and make a little money at it!

[BroadHopper]

After I purchase the 'drive-by wire', Audi Allroad, handling and response became totally unpredictable compared to my '69 Dodge Dart GTS. I prefer to drive around in the GTS and 2005 Mercedes instead of the Allroad. I bought the allroad before used cars started to appreciate. Made an 11K profit! The GTS and the Mercedes 'longroof' have standard shift! The allroad was a paddle shifter which was totally useless. The 7-speed auto has been shifting around like crazy trying to find a 'sweet spot'. So much for 'drive-by wire'.

Long live standard longroofs!

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by BroadHopper

After I purchase the 'drive-by wire', Audi Allroad, handling and response became totally unpredictable compared to my '69 Dodge Dart GTS. I prefer to drive around in the GTS and 2005 Mercedes instead of the Allroad. I bought the allroad before used cars started to appreciate. Made an 11K profit! The GTS and the Mercedes 'longroof' are standard! The allroad was a paddle shifter which was totally useless. The 7-speed auto has been shifting around like crazy trying to find a 'sweet spot'. So much for 'drive-by wire'.

Long live standard longroofs!

Isn't Drive by Wire just throttle control?

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[BroadHopper]

https://www.lifewire.com/what-is-drive-by-wire-534825

Transmission, Steering, and brakes as well as throttle are controlled electronically. I can imagine how dangerous EVs can be along with batteries that burn forever!

[fatlazyless]

Originally Posted by TiltonBB

So..............We know you can afford a nice new car. (Several, in fact)

I would feel totally ridiculous driving a new car which automatically comes with a new 'perfection' paint job ..... plus, a new car really should be garaged under a roof and out of the weather.

NH is basically a Subaru Village, and driving Subaru just blends with central NH. Subaru's looks make it look like it was designed by the Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts of America, or something.

[John Mercier]

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

Just yesterday I removed the old Belknap Subaru sticker next to the tail light and pressed on a round bumper sticker with a 5-speed shift pattern surrounded by two words; "Endangered Species." .....

This 2014 5-speed Subaru is going the distance ....... to 225,000-miles and more! New World Auto in Plymouth is where it is going for brakes and everything else ..... but so far, driving from 96k to 113-k, it has needed nothing except Castrol Edge oil & the cheapest Fram oil filter changes at Walmart for $46.44 plus tire rotation-ten dollars and a new trailer hitch & tail lights, connector hook-up that actually works at New World Auto for $525. .....

You know the mechanic at Walmart who did the last oil change actually put his initials on the el cheapo Fram oil filter with red plasti dip ..... how about that! He signed his work.

First gear is very slow starting from a stop light, so's I usually start it off in 2nd gear. Try doing that with an automatic! This Subaru has 200-hp with a horizontally opposed 4-cylinder engine and weighs 3000-lbs so it's a wee bit slow, or something.

I have shiftronic... so I can designate any of the six gear speeds that I want to be in.
I can even have the programming change for the specifics as to those setting, also change my steering and braking response.

[tummyman]

Guess we are lucky that there were maybe 15 + responses out of 30+ to the ORIGINAL topic of this thread....an interesting and informative thread I might add... before a number of folks ventured off topic to chat about stick shifts, fancy cars, etc. Since I am buying a new car in the next couple of months, the data was very helpful on the original topic. I don't want to be disrespectful or rain on someone's parade, but this off topic chatter seems to happen a lot. If there is the urge to talk about something else, then by all means start a new thread. Don't shoot the messenger !!

[John Mercier]

Yeah... we do that a lot.
Doc fees will happen regardless of the type of vehicle.
I guess the best that you could do is try to negotiate them into the bottom line price.

[SailinAway]

Originally Posted by John Mercier

Yeah... we do that a lot.
Doc fees will happen regardless of the type of vehicle.
I guess the best that you could do is try to negotiate them into the bottom line price.

I still say that in this market, negotiating anything will only work if you have other options and the dealer really wants the sale then and there.