The Dive

winni83 · 05-28-2021, 12:43 PM

FS,

Yes, the Dive and Epic seem to have similar responses when confronted with legitimate issues. With the Dive, their issues first began with their ignorant assumption that they could just tie up at a public dock as part of their business model; then issues with their first Landlord at the Weirs, Eastcoast; then more issues with their second Landlord at the Weirs, the City of Laconia. Always the fault of someone else apparently. See, for example, this post by the Dive in the FB thread regarding their current issues:

"Thank you all! We have ALWAYS taken the high road but at this point - we are fighting back - as the high road isn't helping us. We have 90% support vs 10% haters - but they are the ones causing all the issues!! Not to mention FAKE News media and crooked politics. We are a family business just trying to bring something fun to the lake and our boating friends. We need our 9000+ followers to help us in ANY way you can think of! Our platform is one-of-a-kind and we have so many great ideas for this summer. If you take our 9000 followers and their networks - there's strength in numbers! We need to oust some of these small town players who think they own the STATE run lake! We're tired of battling against it alone - so please - we will take ANY support you have. Thank you again and we hope to see you all very soon"

Mr. V · 05-28-2021, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by winni83

We have 90% support vs 10% haters - but they are the ones causing all the issues!! Not to mention FAKE News media and crooked politics. We are a family business just trying to bring something fun to the lake and our

Oh no, another unhappy soul playing "the fake news media" card.

Goodbye, credibility ...

LikeLakes · 05-28-2021, 04:53 PM

Ok, so I get it that their approach is maybe not the best. But I also think they may be beyond the point of frustration by now. After a very difficult year last year for any small business, to be heading into the busy season and have roadblock after roadblock thrown your way has to be frustrating. I don't know the details so I don't have any opinion to express one way or the other in terms of who is right and who is wrong, but I can guess that small town politics are making it hard to operate the business.

I guess I look at it this way .... to embark on a business such as theirs on Winni, you are looking at trying to be in compliance with the 7 (is it seven?) bordering towns and the state and find a place to do business that won't restrict your activity to the point of throttling your business. It is hard, to say the least. I'd just like them to have a fair chance to run their business the same way a shoreside restaurant has.

winni83 · 05-28-2021, 09:01 PM

Well it appears that some friends of The Dive are upset for sure (both comments “liked” by The Dive).

“you don’t sound like a concerned citizen you sound like more like a politician how do you know so much about there stuff going on why don’t you get a ****in life and stop harassing great people”

“doesn’t matter guys like that shouldn’t mess with peoples business or try and take money off your plate it’s not right but apparently people gotta open up a fake ass account you know why cause he’s got no balls that’s why”

I guess you can really tell a lot about someone by the company they keep.

LIforrelaxin · 05-28-2021, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by LikeLakes

Ok, so I get it that their approach is maybe not the best. But I also think they may be beyond the point of frustration by now. After a very difficult year last year for any small business, to be heading into the busy season and have roadblock after roadblock thrown your way has to be frustrating. I don't know the details so I don't have any opinion to express one way or the other in terms of who is right and who is wrong, but I can guess that small town politics are making it hard to operate the business.

I guess I look at it this way .... to embark on a business such as theirs on Winni, you are looking at trying to be in compliance with the 7 (is it seven?) bordering towns and the state and find a place to do business that won't restrict your activity to the point of throttling your business. It is hard, to say the least. I'd just like them to have a fair chance to run their business the same way a shoreside restaurant has.

I think the problem that they are finding is that they thought being on the water would mean that the only regulatory body they would have to deal with was the state. Which probably came from flawed legal advice at the outset of the venture.

LikeLakes · 05-28-2021, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by LIforrelaxin

I think the problem that they are finding is that they thought being on the water would mean that the only regulatory body they would have to deal with was the state. Which probably came from flawed legal advice at the outset of the venture.

I think you are exactly right!

05-28-2021, 12:43 PM	#1
winni83 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Moultonborough, NH Posts: 439 Thanks: 17 Thanked 218 Times in 138 Posts	FS, Yes, the Dive and Epic seem to have similar responses when confronted with legitimate issues. With the Dive, their issues first began with their ignorant assumption that they could just tie up at a public dock as part of their business model; then issues with their first Landlord at the Weirs, Eastcoast; then more issues with their second Landlord at the Weirs, the City of Laconia. Always the fault of someone else apparently. See, for example, this post by the Dive in the FB thread regarding their current issues: "Thank you all! We have ALWAYS taken the high road but at this point - we are fighting back - as the high road isn't helping us. We have 90% support vs 10% haters - but they are the ones causing all the issues!! Not to mention FAKE News media and crooked politics. We are a family business just trying to bring something fun to the lake and our boating friends. We need our 9000+ followers to help us in ANY way you can think of! Our platform is one-of-a-kind and we have so many great ideas for this summer. If you take our 9000 followers and their networks - there's strength in numbers! We need to oust some of these small town players who think they own the STATE run lake! We're tired of battling against it alone - so please - we will take ANY support you have. Thank you again and we hope to see you all very soon"

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05-28-2021, 04:53 PM	#3
LikeLakes Senior Member Join Date: May 2021 Posts: 339 Thanks: 50 Thanked 92 Times in 66 Posts	Ok, so I get it that their approach is maybe not the best. But I also think they may be beyond the point of frustration by now. After a very difficult year last year for any small business, to be heading into the busy season and have roadblock after roadblock thrown your way has to be frustrating. I don't know the details so I don't have any opinion to express one way or the other in terms of who is right and who is wrong, but I can guess that small town politics are making it hard to operate the business. I guess I look at it this way .... to embark on a business such as theirs on Winni, you are looking at trying to be in compliance with the 7 (is it seven?) bordering towns and the state and find a place to do business that won't restrict your activity to the point of throttling your business. It is hard, to say the least. I'd just like them to have a fair chance to run their business the same way a shoreside restaurant has.

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05-28-2021, 09:01 PM	#4
winni83 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Moultonborough, NH Posts: 439 Thanks: 17 Thanked 218 Times in 138 Posts	Well it appears that some friends of The Dive are upset for sure (both comments “liked” by The Dive). “you don’t sound like a concerned citizen you sound like more like a politician how do you know so much about there stuff going on why don’t you get a ****in life and stop harassing great people” “doesn’t matter guys like that shouldn’t mess with peoples business or try and take money off your plate it’s not right but apparently people gotta open up a fake ass account you know why cause he’s got no balls that’s why” I guess you can really tell a lot about someone by the company they keep.

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