National mask mandate

[Biggd]

The places I have frequented it's been 50/50. Mostly staff but customers have them and put them on as needed.

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[Garcia]

Doing nothing is not an option that is palatable to the majority, so that is not a viable answer. Staying home indefinitely is not an option. So, if wearing a mask helps, which seems to be the case (even VP Pence is encouraging masks), and being careful to maintain distance, whatever distance is deemed both effective and sustainable, then I'll do it. I realize the mask is providing limited protection for me, but by all accounts does help minimize me spreading it to others. I don't care whether I'm being a sheep, whether it is Constitutional, or how I look. I want the virus to go away.

If people can offer a more effective way of minimizing the spread than wearing masks and maintaining distance, please share. If not, please put on a mask before going into a public place and when in crowds. Masks aren't effective if only 50% of the population wears them.

I'm open to other science based solutions.

As to The Lakes Region, I liked the sign at Heaths (hardware) - basically it said out of respect for the employees, please wear a mask. Everyone except one person was doing so.

[Seaplane Pilot]

If it happens, I will not wear a mask (in the Lakes Region), and if confronted by anyone (in the Lakes Region), I will speak only the following two words (in the Lakes Region): “MEDICAL EXEMPTION”.

Case closed.....

[Major]

Originally Posted by Seaplane Pilot

If it happens, I will not wear a mask (in the Lakes Region), and if confronted by anyone (in the Lakes Region), I will speak only the following two words (in the Lakes Region): “MEDICAL EXEMPTION”.

Case closed.....

Hopefully, you haven't been confronted. I'd have a two other words for the person. Thankfully, no one has confronted me. The way I think of it, they have the right to think what they want and think less of me, and I have the right to think what I want and think less of them. If people want masks, we should use the democratic process and vote on it, like other things. And that has been the problem with this so-called crisis. The 40,000,000 plus who are out of work and the tens of thousands of small business owners who have lost their businesses, had no vote on this nonsense.

[Seaplane Pilot]

Originally Posted by Major

Hopefully, you haven't been confronted. I'd have a two other words for the person. Thankfully, no one has confronted me. The way I think of it, they have the right to think what they want and think less of me, and I have the right to think what I want and think less of them. If people want masks, we should use the democratic process and vote on it, like other things. And that has been the problem with this so-called crisis. The 40,000,000 plus who are out of work and the tens of thousands of small business owners who have lost their businesses, had no vote on this nonsense.

Hi Major,

No, I have not had anyone confront or say anything to me. Like you, I’d have 2 different words for anyone that would be stupid enough to confront me. I was referring to any so-called “official” that would confront anyone if some kind of BS mandate were to be implemented. You’ll hear me screaming “MEDICAL EXEMPTION”!

[Major]

Originally Posted by Seaplane Pilot

Hi Major,

No, I have not had anyone confront or say anything to me. Like you, I’d have 2 different words for anyone that would be stupid enough to confront me. I was referring to any so-called “official” that would confront anyone if some kind of BS mandate were to be implemented. You’ll hear me screaming “MEDICAL EXEMPTION”!

Or, "I have asthma!" As I'm smoking a cigar!

[Major]

I'm a numbers guy, and here are the relevant numbers to me --

Deaths per 1,000,000
New York - 1,652
New Jersey - 1,706
Massachusetts - 1,174
Georgia - 264
Florida - 163
Texas - 85
New Hampshire - 270

Deaths and hospitalizations are decreasing. Based on the numbers we (the Lakes Region) should be opened up full throttle, no masks, no social distancing. (People in the Lakes Region aren't really adhering to these anyway.) Deaths in Belknap and Carroll counties are microscopic. We're ready to work and enjoy the summer. It seems that we have figured out that we need to protect our elderly and morbidly obese, while the rest of us can develop a heard immunity to get this thing over with. If you are elderly or obese or have a loved one who is, the responsibility is yours to protect yourself. Other places, e.g., NY, NJ and Mass, may have to take a different approach.

[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by Major

I'm a numbers guy, and here are the relevant numbers to me --

Deaths per 1,000,000
New York - 1,652
New Jersey - 1,706
Massachusetts - 1,174
Georgia - 264
Florida - 163
Texas - 85
New Hampshire - 270

Deaths and hospitalizations are decreasing. Based on the numbers we (the Lakes Region) should be opened up full throttle, no masks, no social distancing. (People in the Lakes Region aren't really adhering to these anyway.) Deaths in Belknap and Carroll counties are microscopic. We're ready to work and enjoy the summer. It seems that we have figured out that we need to protect our elderly and morbidly obese, while the rest of us can develop a heard immunity to get this thing over with. If you are elderly or obese or have a loved one who is, the responsibility is yours to protect yourself. Other places, e.g., NY, NJ and Mass, may have to take a different approach.

ROFL that you're a numbers guy...

But if I take the numbers you've presented as correct/meaningful, you seem to be asserting that NH should open full throttle even as places with numbers that you've quoted as better--Florida and Texas, both governed by Trump minions--are now in the process of reversing their full throttle openings.

So I'm going to go way out on a limb, and assert your numbers are an incomplete picture. I think the Governor is doing a great job for the Lakes

[Major]

Originally Posted by FlyingScot

ROFL that you're a numbers guy...

But if I take the numbers you've presented as correct/meaningful, you seem to be asserting that NH should open full throttle even as places with numbers that you've quoted as better--Florida and Texas, both governed by Trump minions--are now in the process of reversing their full throttle openings.

So I'm going to go way out on a limb, and assert your numbers are an incomplete picture. I think the Governor is doing a great job for the Lakes

The ONLY reason why Florida and Texas may be reversing their respective courses is because it has gotten political. Much like the situation Trump was in when this nonsense first occurred.

[Biggd]

Originally Posted by Major

The ONLY reason why Florida and Texas may be reversing their respective courses is because it has gotten political. Much like the situation Trump was in when this nonsense first occurred.

Their reopening up earlier than guidelines recommended was political so there's no reason to think that any move they make isn't politically based.

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[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by Major

The ONLY reason why Florida and Texas may be reversing their respective courses is because it has gotten political. Much like the situation Trump was in when this nonsense first occurred.

Trying to keep this focused on the Lakes, but you're really making me hurt from the laughter. The Governors of Texas and Florida have been hailed by our President as strong leaders in Republican states. They do not need to fold to anyone other than hard line right wing voters (like you). You are advocating a plan for us that is completely out of touch with reality.

[Winilyme]

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