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Old 04-09-2020, 05:41 AM   #1
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This is an interesting graphic of CV-19 vs. other causes of death.
https://public.flourish.studio/visualisation/1812248/
Cool graph that comports well with changing statistics-reporting:

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"Deaths with COVID-19 are different from deaths from COVID-19."
An NYC doctor reported a 90 year-old COVID-19 DNR patient on a ventilator, who had meth in her system!

Why ventilators aren't the whole answer:
https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/...ters/89441362/

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Cool graph that comports well with changing statistics-reporting:

An NYC doctor reported a 90 year-old COVID-19 DNR patient on a ventilator, who had meth in her system!

Why ventilators aren't the whole answer:
https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/...ters/89441362/
Agreed, but are there deaths caused by CV-19 that aren't being reported correctly? And, as I mentioned on the other thread, what percent is "the reporting" off? Even if off significantly, it's still alarming to be at/above the top of the list, especially with all the steps we've taken.

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Agreed, but are there deaths caused by CV-19 that aren't being reported correctly? And, as I mentioned on the other thread, what percent is "the reporting" off? Even if off significantly, it's still alarming to be at/above the top of the list, especially with all the steps we've taken.
You'll notice the rapid flip in COVID-19, putting us "over the top". A good explanation follows.

An MD, and US Representative, explains the reason why:

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"Senator Dr. Scott Jensen: Right now Medicare is determining that if you have a COVID-19 admission to the hospital you get $13,000. If that COVID-19 patient goes on a ventilator you get $39,000, three times as much. Nobody can tell me after 35 years in the world of medicine that sometimes those kinds of things impact on what we do."
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An NYC doctor reported a 90 year-old COVID-19 DNR patient on a ventilator, who had meth in her system!

Your meth anecdote is why we use statistics and empirical data rather than anecdotes. All of the other causes of death also include people on meth (and all sorts of other crap).
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Old 04-09-2020, 05:41 PM   #5
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I'm not a conspiracy buff, but it is interesting to note that the Chinese National Biosafety Laboratory, part of the Wuhan Institute of Virology, is about ten miles from the market where it is claimed the virus first was found.

By report, the Lab had been experimenting with viruses from bats.

see: https://www.the-scientist.com/news-o...evidence-67229
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All of the other causes of death also include people on meth (and all sorts of other crap).
Thinkxingu's active graph suggests that COVID-19 is lately "being discovered", perhaps with a zeal to strengthen a political position.

(To augment voter fraud?)

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Your meth anecdote is why we use statistics and empirical data rather than anecdotes.
Well...you know what Mark Twain said about statistics.

As for empirical data, that appears as the subtitle on a textbook cover—one of two textbooks I've authored:

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Thinkxingu's active graph suggests that COVID-19 is lately "being discovered", perhaps with a zeal to strengthen a political position.


What about the phrase “novel coronavirus” do you not understand? In case you didn’t know, novel, as an adjective, means new.


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Thinkxingu's active graph suggests that COVID-19 is lately "being discovered", perhaps with a zeal to strengthen a political position.
I take Think's graph as a way of explaining how covid has grown as an actual killer, not just an expected killer. You may remember (haha) a significant number of our penpals asserting that covid is not a big deal because current deaths were low relative to other causes of death at a particular point. As we can see from the graph, that is no longer the case
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I saw today that hospitals in NH are seeing a 40% reduction in cardiac arrest cases and they cannot figure out why.
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