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[Major]

Originally Posted by StevenGilford

It's really easy to knock people down by saying "wrong!" "FAKE NEWS!" "jerk!" but if anyone wants to engage in a constructive debate, please bring some facts to the discussion.

Hold this against me, and I'm sure someone will, but I am not an expert. I admit I am not an expert. All I am doing is reading, digesting, and validating facts and data from multiple primary and secondary sources. If these sources turn out to be wrong, or inaccurate, or my interpretation is flawed, but all means offer alternatives. I will spin on a ****ing dime if they are better than the sources I'm using because my thoughts on this are not fixed and tribal.

So far the "alternative evidence" produced is:

• An OANN article (proven to be misleading at best, lies at worst)
• A quote from Dr Deborah Birx (asserted that she is being misleading by the author of the data she quotes)
• Assertions that "we just don't know" (which we all understand we don't know it all, but that doesn't mean we don't know anything)
• A conservative blog (opinions)
• Incomparable figures from driving and cancer deaths

I've had a constructive debate. I've argued the raw numbers and our ability as a society to tolerate other much worse risks. You chose to ignore the FACTS I propose. And only after you labeled my opinion as abhorrent and let's be real me as abhorrent did I call you a jerk.

I'm sorry, but I have a healthy skepticism to follow the advice of a federal employee since 1984, who has a vested interest in creating a crisis. (Don't think for a second National Institute of Health's funding won't skyrocket because of this so-called crisis.) These are the same people that are telling us that climate change is an existential threat. These are the same people who want to release CRIMINALS from prisons and jails with absolutely no job prospects. (What could go wrong.)

Don't think for a second that a result of this shut down could bring about lawless behavior. Looting in the inner cities is certainly one likely outcome, which will result in an even more public distain of our law enforcement officers. There is more of a likelihood of this happening than the 3,600,000 deaths you referenced before.

I have never stated that the Chinese coronavirus is not real. It is. How come it had to be an all-or-nothing approach? Wouldn't the smarter approach to encourage safe behavior while enable Americans to earn a living. Those like my parents have to be careful, living their lives as the do now -- only going out to obtain food and necessities, while the rest of us, who are relatively young and healthy can continue our lives but with a level of cautiousness.

I can debate this all day long. However, I have work to do and should probably focus on that.

[StevenGilford]

Originally Posted by Major

Chinese coronavirus

Oh nice one! You really owned this lib-tard!

[Major]

Originally Posted by StevenGilford

Oh nice one! You really owned this lib-tard!

I knew it would trigger you. So easy!

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by Major

I knew it would trigger you. So easy!

like shooting fish in a barrel. But be careful with your posts you could get accused of being on the forum and posting 24/7 like I was accused of yesterday


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[Top-Water]

Originally Posted by joey2665

But be careful with your posts you could get accused of being on the forum and posting 24/7 like I was accused of yesterday

I predict we wiil have a new number 1 poster in 2 years. If the web-master does not get sick of everyone fighting and closes the place down. {But don't worry, it won't be you}. Your not even close to taking things over.

Stay safe Joey

[Biggd]

Originally Posted by Top-Water

I predict we wiil have a new number 1 poster in 2 years. If the web-master does not get sick of everyone fighting and closes the place down. {But don't worry, it won't be you}. Your not even close to taking things over.

Stay safe Joey

I don't see FLL relinquishing that title without a fight.

[Top-Water]

Originally Posted by Biggd

I don't see FLL relinquishing that title without a fight.

And I think you are right but have a feeling that the obsessed will give him a run for his money.

[fatlazyless]

Originally Posted by Biggd

I don't see FLL relinquishing that title without a fight.

...... say-hey ..... I don't post because I like to post ..... I post because I am so totally bored out of my mind and have nothing better to do ..... is more like a disease ..... cough-cough-cough ...... excuse me!

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by Top-Water

I predict we wiil have a new number 1 poster in 2 years. If the web-master does not get sick of everyone fighting and closes the place down. {But don't worry, it won't be you}. Your not even close to taking things over.

Stay safe Joey

Won’t be me. I have no desire or need to surpass FLL. I post only when I feel I can contribute to a conversation of assist others that have similar beliefs as myself. Also have given free tax advice many times.

I must tell you the negativity I am receiving lately is disheartening it’s fine to disagree everyone is entitled to their own opinions but to say I post too much, I find it personally insulting and there are many others that have posted more than me.

I will continue to be on the site as I find much of the information useful, although not recently, however I will not be posting very much any longer I’m sure many of you will be happy. Good luck and stay safe all.


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[Major]

Originally Posted by joey2665

Won’t be me. I have no desire or need to surpass FLL. I post only when I feel I can contribute to a conversation of assist others that have similar beliefs as myself. Also have given free tax advice many times.

I must tell you the negativity I am receiving lately is disheartening it’s fine to disagree everyone is entitled to their own opinions but to say I post too much, I find it personally insulting and there are many others that have posted more than me.

I will continue to be on the site as I find much of the information useful, although not recently, however I will not be posting very much any longer I’m sure many of you will be happy. Good luck and stay safe all.


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It won't be me either. I am passionate about our President and preserving conservative values. The negativity is disappointing. However, what's more disappointing is how easy we turtle and give up our liberties and freedoms without questioning why. This time it's the Chinese coronavirus. Next time it will be climate change. Next time it will be because China owns us, and we have to submit because bureaucrats tell us so. I won't convince them and they won't convince me. I can live with that. That's what makes America great - diversity of views. At the end of the day I hope we can share a cocktail and have a few laughs about the silliness of it all. Because what I think and others think really doesn't matter or change the course of events.

[StevenGilford]

Originally Posted by Major

what's more disappointing is how easy we turtle and give up our liberties and freedoms without questioning why.

The issue with this statement is that you assume people don't question why, when the reality is many people do. They simply come to a different conclusion than you.

Originally Posted by Major

That's what makes America great - diversity of views. At the end of the day I hope we can share a cocktail and have a few laughs

Completely agree

[Top-Water]

Originally Posted by Major

It won't be me either. I am passionate about our President and preserving conservative values. The negativity is disappointing. However, what's more disappointing is how easy we turtle and give up our liberties and freedoms without questioning why. This time it's the Chinese coronavirus. Next time it will be climate change. Next time it will be because China owns us, and we have to submit because bureaucrats tell us so. I won't convince them and they won't convince me. I can live with that. That's what makes America great - diversity of views. At the end of the day I hope we can share a cocktail and have a few laughs about the silliness of it all. Because what I think and others think really doesn't matter or change the course of events.

Thank you ....... worth repeating.

[Top-Water]

Originally Posted by joey2665

Won’t be me. I have no desire or need to surpass FLL. I post only when I feel I can contribute to a conversation of assist others that have similar beliefs as myself. Also have given free tax advice many times.

I must tell you the negativity I am receiving lately is disheartening it’s fine to disagree everyone is entitled to their own opinions but to say I post too much, I find it personally insulting and there are many others that have posted more than me.

I will continue to be on the site as I find much of the information useful, although not recently, however I will not be posting very much any longer I’m sure many of you will be happy. Good luck and stay safe all.

The short reply:
I feel the same as you these days, that why I'm mostly just posting old photos these days. I don't feel I wanna share every single detail of my life on here.

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by Top-Water

The short reply:
I feel the same as you these days, that why I'm mostly just posting old photos these days. I don't feel I wanna share every single detail of my life on here.

Define hypocrisy: the guy who always has something critical to say complaining about negativity.

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[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by joey2665

Won’t be me. I have no desire or need to surpass FLL. I post only when I feel I can contribute to a conversation of assist others that have similar beliefs as myself. Also have given free tax advice many times.

I must tell you the negativity I am receiving lately is disheartening it’s fine to disagree everyone is entitled to their own opinions but to say I post too much, I find it personally insulting and there are many others that have posted more than me.

I will continue to be on the site as I find much of the information useful, although not recently, however I will not be posting very much any longer I’m sure many of you will be happy. Good luck and stay safe all.


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I agree, Joey—though I don't always see eye-to-eye with people here, it's always been my MO to live and let live.

The amount of criticism here lately—too many posts, political attacks, personal criticisms over life decisions, etc.—is pathetic.

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