COVID 19 effects on summer economy

[Andromeda321]

Originally Posted by TheRoBoat

Sorry that is happening. The same thing is occurring all over out here.

Have you set a go/no go date, or have any of the venues mentioned their plans?

Hah, well the wedding venue is actually the Marriott Long Wharf in Boston, which if you follow the Boston outbreak at all is where the Biogen conference was and is currently closed. This virus and I have similar tastes!

Now the one saving grace is we are actually already legally married- we had to do it quickly at town hall to get my husband his green card and it was a quiet affair. But we were saving the ring exchange for this ceremony and my husband was excited to have his family visit from his home country and all that jazz... so sad if we have to postpone but not as bad as other situations. We will see how it all plays out.

[TheRoBoat]

And I would have to ask why not? Do you think him mentioning 80% is going to impact people coming to the lake? If so, why do you think that?

If you don’t like that number - what would it be if all restaurants and bars are closed, concerts cancelled, etc for the entire summer? 60%? You seem to have a great pulse on the economy there, and I am guessing you have an idea.

What everyone should be taking from Bill’s statement is that members of the island community are considering not coming to the lake this year. That is a whole new level of concern for the region. Your bread and butter is wavering on coming to NH. Even to isolate on an island.

We who live far away, and who count the minutes until we are back at the lake, really want to come to NH this summer and spend a lot of money. The actions of the residents of NH over the next few weeks is going to determine how feasible that is.

[garysanfran]

Do I think there's a bit of media hype?...I do...How much? I don't know. I worked in the City room of the Boston Globe for a few years and know a bit about the commercial side of the news business as well as the editorial.

I'm exercising caution, staying indoors and I've sanitized everything.

I have my house in Meredith rented for the entire summer and have to get back there soon to prepare it. So far no cancellations. Cancellations worry me.

At the same time, I have a vacancy coming up on a rental I own in San Fran.

Getting on a plane and dealing with airports and buses is a bit disturbing. However, once I get to the lake, I'll be fine and happy.

[garysanfran]

People may be reluctant to travel far this season and may decide to stay closer to home. This could be a boom for The Lakes Region.

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by garysanfran

People may be reluctant to travel far this season and may decide to stay closer to home. This could be a boom for The Lakes Region.

We are on the same page Gary

[garysanfran]

A large % of the rentals in the Region are single family houses and cottages. These facilities are far safer than motels and hotels. You can control who comes and goes. No encounters with strangers or doorknobs recently touched by strangers. Also, I believe the #'s coming out of NH are very low for those infected.

[TheRoBoat]

I’m flattered at your opinion of my influence. If I wrote “All is well, come on up” would you assume it would be a great summer? It’s also a little contradictory to say I am going to influence people not to come, and in the next sentence claim it is way to early to tell anything.

You also imply that I do not care about people’s livelihood because I bring up a difficult topic. I could turn around and say your, and others, somewhat cavalier attitude towards the seriousness of this issue is far more damaging to the prospects of local businesses, as it does nothing more than extend the inevitable, and lengthen recovery time.

The entire stock market gains, 3 years of a bull market, of this administration are gone over this issue, but you think it’s too soon to tell if it will impact tourism in the big summer months?

[TheRoBoat]

I wholeheartedly agree with this. I think NH is going to be shocked when the numbers start to rise.

It seems the numbers here in CA are starting their growth - I think I saw 46 new in LA county. It's going to be an eye opening few weeks, and frustrating.

I saw yesterday the you posted no traffic and silent in SF. Down here - empty highways during commute, holiday traffic midday as people ran errands. Much quieter today

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by TheRoBoat

I’m flattered at your opinion of my influence. If I wrote “All is well, come on up” would you assume it would be a great summer? It’s also a little contradictory to say I am going to influence people not to come, and in the next sentence claim it is way to early to tell anything.

You also imply that I do not care about people’s livelihood because I bring up a difficult topic. I could turn around and say your, and others, somewhat cavalier attitude towards the seriousness of this issue is far more damaging to the prospects of local businesses, as it does nothing more than extend the inevitable, and lengthen recovery time.

The entire stock market gains, 3 years of a bull market, of this administration are gone over this issue, but you think it’s too soon to tell if it will impact tourism in the big summer months?

It’s not contradictory it is too early but as I said some people could be influenced by your numbers. I just assume not say anything to hurt our local businesses a wait til the season gets closer

All you post is negativity and doom and gloom. Yes this is a serious problem but there is also in my opinion a tremendous amount of overreaction.


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[TheRoBoat]

Bookmarking for a month from now.

[garysanfran]

Personally, I would feel more secure from something passed through human contact if I were in a more remote location...Like in the woods on Meredith Neck with only one neighbor.

I'm here in San Francisco, among the Great-Unwashed, densely packed population of an urban center. I think I am more at risk here...than watching the red squirrels, deer and fishers in the Meredith woods.

I am under ordered quarantine. I don't care. I just got a 65" Sony OLED with a great surround-sound. Gonna get callouses on my butt after 15 days.

Panic set in yesterday when the pot dispensaries were ordered closed, but liquor stores were not...Lines everywhere to beat the deadline. Today they re-opened...Medical marijuana needs you know and both alcohol and pot have a recreational legality, so, so so. Yup watched it all on my big 65".

[SAB1]

I’m not sure any of us know for sure what It will look like but one thing for sure we are likely headed to mass layoffs. For those of you not working in Boston or near it, the city has been a ghost town for almost two weeks now. All those construction projects in Boston at a standstill now. Guess what that interest on the bank notes the developers are carrying is going to hurt quick. It’s really rippling thru everything. So when people are out of work and out of money many won’t vacation.

[garysanfran]

Originally Posted by SAB1

I’m not sure any of us know for sure what It will look like but one thing for sure we are likely headed to mass layoffs. For those of you not working in Boston or near it, the city has been a ghost town for almost two weeks now. All those construction projects in Boston at a standstill now. Guess what that interest on the bank notes the developers are carrying is going to hurt quick. It’s really rippling thru everything. So when people are out of work and out of money many won’t vacation.

Something else to consider.

I enjoy the input of though I get from the Forum members. Diverse and intelligent.

I've also noticed...maybe just me...that there is a certain cordiality among society in general and on this Forum specifically now...No?

[Leoskeys]

Originally Posted by TheRoBoat

I’m flattered at your opinion of my influence. If I wrote “All is well, come on up” would you assume it would be a great summer? It’s also a little contradictory to say I am going to influence people not to come, and in the next sentence claim it is way to early to tell anything.

You also imply that I do not care about people’s livelihood because I bring up a difficult topic. I could turn around and say your, and others, somewhat cavalier attitude towards the seriousness of this issue is far more damaging to the prospects of local businesses, as it does nothing more than extend the inevitable, and lengthen recovery time.

The entire stock market gains, 3 years of a bull market, of this administration are gone over this issue, but you think it’s too soon to tell if it will impact tourism in the big summer months?

The stock market is still up over 300% from its 2009 low. Yes, 11 year bull market ended this month, and has dropped roughly 25% from its high, but S&P 500 has still gone from 666 in March of 2009 to current 2,400 this week. Lots of wealth created the past 11 years. It’s a bummer no doubt, but still find ourselves in a much better place than 2008.

[garysanfran]

Made-in-China...

Then look for something made here...A bit more expensive and better quality...

Try to find a Christmas ornament not made in the non-Christian country of China?

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by TheRoBoat

And I would have to ask why not? Do you think him mentioning 80% is going to impact people coming to the lake? If so, why do you think that?

If you don’t like that number - what would it be if all restaurants and bars are closed, concerts cancelled, etc for the entire summer? 60%? You seem to have a great pulse on the economy there, and I am guessing you have an idea.

What everyone should be taking from Bill’s statement is that members of the island community are considering not coming to the lake this year. That is a whole new level of concern for the region. Your bread and butter is wavering on coming to NH. Even to isolate on an island.

We who live far away, and who count the minutes until we are back at the lake, really want to come to NH this summer and spend a lot of money. The actions of the residents of NH over the next few weeks is going to determine how feasible that is.

Point is you are just throwing around arbitrary numbers that some could take seriously and decide not to come to the lake this season and further hurt the local businesses. It is March 18th and way too soon to see if this will impact tourism in July and August. I also could make a case that it could significantly increase because many may take short road trips this season instead of flying or long drives.

Remember these local businesses are people's livelihoods lets try not put out negative opinions on an already difficult climate when we are all uncertain what might happen 3 months from now