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Old 01-25-2020, 10:02 AM   #1
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I really appreciate all the advice/information given so far!

I am concerned about the timing where the cost to build seems very high today. I'm not sure if I can purchase land and build for my 500k budget.

I plan on discussing this further with Bensonwood and Haywood and Co.

Purchasing an existing home and making changes or a new home presently being built may be my only alternative.Unfortunately I'm not seeing anything on the market that interests us at this time. We really want to locate in the Tuftonboro/Wolfeboro area

Thanks again for your guidance and I look forward to any other postings
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Old 01-25-2020, 10:26 AM   #2
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Were I trying to sell a house now I would defer the listing until spring.

Hopefully you will see something you like come on the market then.
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Default A really good contractor video series...

I've watched a lot of Matt's videos and there is always something good to be learned; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3KX8c3UVo4&t=901s
In the linked video he makes a special mention of Bensonwood Homes in Walpole and that's kinda cool.
There is also Habitat Post and Beam out of the Sturbridge area and they too prefab a beautiful home, but you will need to source your own builder.
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Many parts of NH have a low inventory of both new and used homes for sale. We have one "over 55" development in town where houses turnover, but are rarely publicly listed. People send an email to their HOA mailing list and within a day or two, there's a buyer with ready money. We used to talk about creative marketing to sell a house. Nowadays, perhaps you need to be a creative buyer?
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I really appreciate all the advice/information given so far!

I am concerned about the timing where the cost to build seems very high today. I'm not sure if I can purchase land and build for my 500k budget.

I plan on discussing this further with Bensonwood and Haywood and Co.

Purchasing an existing home and making changes or a new home presently being built may be my only alternative.Unfortunately I'm not seeing anything on the market that interests us at this time. We really want to locate in the Tuftonboro/Wolfeboro area

Thanks again for your guidance and I look forward to any other

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The Spring market should be starting at any time now, usually February and March. Be ready with financing lined up if needed and get in with a good offer if you really like the place. Market is still strong, so cheaping out won’t work. Have reputable home inspector, as well as title company. Best of luck!
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not to bring politics into the arena but lets face it another 4 years of Trump as predicited the economy isn't slowing down. as an owner of a remodeling and new construction business we are booked 6 months out and like many others yes were short handed. if you're waiting for the next recession i wouldn't count on it any time soon. my best advice to you like the current customers i have now they did there research on my company talked to my other current customers, had several meetings in depth discussions on the project at hand and its a huge project btw. then they made there decision. as far as things costing more now??
i would challenge that good honest contractors will be here today and tomorrow. not sure if this has helped you but in short do your homework never take the lowest estimate and look for the best fit for your project. good luck.
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not to bring politics into the arena but lets face it another 4 years of Trump as predicited the economy isn't slowing down. as an owner of a remodeling and new construction business we are booked 6 months out and like many others yes were short handed. if you're waiting for the next recession i wouldn't count on it any time soon. my best advice to you like the current customers i have now they did there research on my company talked to my other current customers, had several meetings in depth discussions on the project at hand and its a huge project btw. then they made there decision. as far as things costing more now??
i would challenge that good honest contractors will be here today and tomorrow. not sure if this has helped you but in short do your homework never take the lowest estimate and look for the best fit for your project. good luck.
I know a couple custom home builders who are booked thru the end of next year. As you say, there is no reason to think it's going to slow down soon.
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I know a couple custom home builders who are booked thru the end of next year. As you say, there is no reason to think it's going to slow down soon.
If you could predict the next slow down you'd be rich. No one knows until we are actually in it. It sneaks up on you.
If we do have another 4 years of prosperity it will happen after that because the next President will have deal with the enormous debt.
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Well, 100 years ago folks had to deal with the "Roaring 20's", that being the 1920's.

And by 1929 the bottom had fallen out of the market, and things were in bad shape everywhere in the USA until the beginning of WWII (which finally pulled us out of the depression).

Let's all hope that we never see something like that again!
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As a retiree, all things considered, I don’t think I would build a house in the lakes region today unless it was on the water and preferably on a lot I currently own. The economy that we are in may continue for several more years, but it will eventually fade and the cost of acquiring a home will drop…unless it is on the water. So, if you build a waterfront home today likely you can sell it at a profit a decade from now when it’s time to move into the Happy Valley Home. On the other hand, if you build an off the water home while the real estate market is as hot as it is you may not live long enough to see any return.

Everybody’s situation is different, but a home is a different type of asset in that we hope it appreciates in value while we are using it. So, if you do have a bag of cash sitting in a money market account making 0.01% in interest or you have invested heavily in equities and are convinced its time to sell, then take that money and build your dream home, enjoy it for many years and if everything works out have more money when you sell the house then you would have had the market tanked.

March 19 Update - If you have any money left, now would be a good time to buy or build a home. Interest rates are as low as they've ever been, home prices are heading south and builders schedules are freeing up.

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Hindsight is always 20/20.

Shoulda, woulda, coulda bought more real estate in 2009...
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Don't forget though, if you are selling a house the price is also higher. If you wait for the market to go lower your present house will bring in less money most likely. And if you are retiring how many years do you want to wait? If Trump gets reelected which looks likely, it will probably be at least until he is out of office.
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As a retiree, all things considered, I don’t think I would build a house in the lakes region today unless it was on the water and preferably on a lot I currently own. The economy that we are in may continue for several more years, but it will eventually fade and the cost of acquiring a home will drop…unless it is on the water. So, if you build a waterfront home today likely you can sell it at a profit a decade from now when it’s time to move into the Happy Valley Home. On the other hand, if you build an off the water home while the real estate market is as hot as it is you may not live long enough to see any return.

Everybody’s situation is different, but a home is a different type of asset in that we hope it appreciates in value while we are using it. So, if you do have a bag of cash sitting in a money market account making 0.01% in interest or you have invested heavily in equities and are convinced its time to sell, then take that money and build your dream home, enjoy it for many years and if everything works out have more money when you sell the house then you would have had the market tanked.
Two things you'll have on your mind by the time you are a retiree:

First, if you're lucky, you will not be selling the home, your kids will. So unless your kids will need every dollar of their inheritance, maybe you don't need to worry about the return on investment.

Second, life is short--you have a limited number of years left to enjoy the house. So waiting 2-5 years to buy in the hope that prices will fall might cost you 10-20% of the time you have to enjoy your beautiful new home.

Carpe diem!
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Two things you'll have on your mind by the time you are a retiree:

First, if you're lucky, you will not be selling the home, your kids will. So unless your kids will need every dollar of their inheritance, maybe you don't need to worry about the return on investment.

Second, life is short--you have a limited number of years left to enjoy the house. So waiting 2-5 years to buy in the hope that prices will fall might cost you 10-20% of the time you have to enjoy your beautiful new home.

Carpe diem!
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I received this recently - If one of these is near you, Habitat (P&B) kit company maybe be able to provide some useful information in your search. As stated they are one of a few that specialize in this type of home.

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We are exhibiting at seven home shows over the next couple of months. We are notifying you of these events because you have requested information from us in the past, and live or are planning to build within a reasonable driving distance of at least one of these events. We encourage you to check our Facebook page, as it is the place where we post information about discount offers or passes if any become available.

Albany Home Show
February 7-9
Albany Capital Center
55 Eagle Street
Albany, NY 12207
Booth 296

Southeastern Connecticut Home Show
February 21-23
Earth Expo and Convention Center
1 Mohegan Sun Boulevard
Uncasville, CT 06382
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The Log & Timer Show
February 28 - March 1
Double Tree by Hilton Hotel Burlington
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South Burlington, VT 05403
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Connecticut Home and Remodeling Show
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Connecticut Convention Center
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Hartford, CT 06103
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Western Massachusetts Home and Garden Show
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Eastern States Exposition and Better Living Center (Big E)
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West Springfield, MA 01089
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Western New England Home Show
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O'Neill Center
University Blvd
Danbury, CT 06810
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The Rhode Island Home Show
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Rhode Island Convention Center
One Sabin St
Providence, RI 02903
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You can also visit our website for a listing of other home shows we will be attending, or the Events section of our Facebook page.

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Great area to live!

One bit of advise....please invest in a generator with a transfer switch that runs major appliances/heat/water pump or a whole-home generator if it's within your budget.

Power can be sporadic from Oct to March during wind/snow/ice storms and you don't want to be one of those people that move to a rural location and complain about power outages and restoration times.

The further you are from large "communities" the longer it takes the power utility to restore your power. They work according to the greatest amount of customers they can restore and if you live in an area that is sparsely populated, you'll be waiting a bit.

This is NOT a dig on the linemen who do great work, it's just a reality of living in paradise.
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Great area to live!

One bit of advise....please invest in a generator with a transfer switch that runs major appliances/heat/water pump or a whole-home generator if it's within your budget.

Power can be sporadic from Oct to March during wind/snow/ice storms and you don't want to be one of those people that move to a rural location and complain about power outages and restoration times.

The further you are from large "communities" the longer it takes the power utility to restore your power. They work according to the greatest amount of customers they can restore and if you live in an area that is sparsely populated, you'll be waiting a bit.

This is NOT a dig on the linemen who do great work, it's just a reality of living in paradise.

My spouse is a reliability engineer for the power company, her biggest complaint during outages is that people expect immediate results. The sad reality is she will deploy crews to your area to fix down lines and they will call back saying its 45 mph winds I am not getting into that bucket truck till it dies down... So you will wait until its A first safe for them to do so, and then B however long it takes for them to fix the problem, on top of C it depends on how many people are affected. If you are in the group of 30 people affected versus 3,000 you should expect a longer wait time.
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My spouse is a reliability engineer for the power company, her biggest complaint during outages is that people expect immediate results. The sad reality is she will deploy crews to your area to fix down lines and they will call back saying its 45 mph winds I am not getting into that bucket truck till it dies down... So you will wait until its A first safe for them to do so, and then B however long it takes for them to fix the problem, on top of C it depends on how many people are affected. If you are in the group of 30 people affected versus 3,000 you should expect a longer wait time.
Not to belittle your wife’s position at the power company but is a “reliability engineer” another name for dispatcher?
You know how job titles are so skewed nowadays (janitor is a “sanitary engineer”) and so on...just curious if you wife is actually a degreed engineer?
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Not to belittle your wife’s position at the power company but is a “reliability engineer” another name for dispatcher?
You know how job titles are so skewed nowadays (janitor is a “sanitary engineer”) and so on...just curious if you wife is actually a degreed engineer?
I was a petroleum engineer when I was 15.
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Not to belittle your wife’s position at the power company but is a “reliability engineer” another name for dispatcher?
You know how job titles are so skewed nowadays (janitor is a “sanitary engineer”) and so on...just curious if you wife is actually a degreed engineer?
She has 2 bachelors and a masters in engineering, she is an engineer by day in her 9-5 there. She's currently involved with designing the requirements for a lot of the EV charging stations as the electric car craze takes over. When storms hit they get put into storm duty and she dispatches crews then for some hefty OT pay. Now ya know why our bills are so high!

We sometimes joke about whos not a real engineer in our house, her being an electrical or me being a biomedical engineer! I think the 6 diplomas on our walls are enough to satisfy the argument where we both win.
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My spouse is a reliability engineer for the power company, her biggest complaint during outages is that people expect immediate results. The sad reality is she will deploy crews to your area to fix down lines and they will call back saying its 45 mph winds I am not getting into that bucket truck till it dies down... So you will wait until its A first safe for them to do so, and then B however long it takes for them to fix the problem, on top of C it depends on how many people are affected. If you are in the group of 30 people affected versus 3,000 you should expect a longer wait time.
You’re quite angry and defensive.

I don’t care if the power goes out or stays out.... I’m prepared with a generator for my home.

I’m just saying to get one so you don’t turn into a bitter person that complains about the power in a rural area during a storm.... if your wife is anything like you, it’s a good thing I never have to call.
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You’re quite angry and defensive.

I don’t care if the power goes out or stays out.... I’m prepared with a generator for my home.

I’m just saying to get one so you don’t turn into a bitter person that complains about the power in a rural area during a storm.... if your wife is anything like you, it’s a good thing I never have to call.
Good luck to you buddy. I wish you nothing but the best
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