What happened in Wolfboro ?

WinnisquamZ · 10-25-2018, 10:08 AM

After reading the information that has been released, the only things we know for sure are two people were shot, both known by the local police and the others in the house at the time are not talking. One thing we did learn is the town of Wolfeboro has a crack den!!!

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SAMIAM · 10-25-2018, 11:54 AM

Strange…..not a word on the evening news. I heard the woman has also died so that's two murders and still nothing.

gokart-mozart · 10-26-2018, 11:11 AM

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Strange…..not a word on the evening news. I heard the woman has also died so that's two murders and still nothing.

I, as well as many other people, have heard that as well, but it has not been confirmed by NHSP, nor has the name of the hospital she was taken to.

I presume the reason to withhold this information (if it is true) is that it gives the LEOs some kind of advantage over the shooter which could lead to his/her capture.

Biggd · 10-25-2018, 12:01 PM

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After reading the information that has been released, the only things we know for sure are two people were shot, both known by the local police and the others in the house at the time are not talking. One thing we did learn is the town of Wolfeboro has a crack den!!!

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Well, Trump did denounce NH as a "drug infested den."

Major · 10-26-2018, 11:13 AM

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Well, Trump did denounce NH as a "drug infested den."

As usual, our President is correct. Downtown Laconia certainly exhibits this statement.

I just got gas at Irving's on Union Ave., two tweakers with life belongings in backpacks hanging around the front of the store. I'm sure the store is thrilled to have such a welcoming presence. Couple this with a parade of drug addicts walking up and down Court, Main and Pleasant Streets. Can't park in the Citizens Bank parking lot because of the "treatment" center next door. And the cherry on the top is LRGH solving their financial woes by focusing on treatment. Goody, even more drug addicts will come.

So yes, certain areas are drug infested dens.

Biggd · 10-26-2018, 01:05 PM

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As usual, our President is correct. Downtown Laconia certainly exhibits this statement.

I just got gas at Irving's on Union Ave., two tweakers with life belongings in backpacks hanging around the front of the store. I'm sure the store is thrilled to have such a welcoming presence. Couple this with a parade of drug addicts walking up and down Court, Main and Pleasant Streets. Can't park in the Citizens Bank parking lot because of the "treatment" center next door. And the cherry on the top is LRGH solving their financial woes by focusing on treatment. Goody, even more drug addicts will come.

So yes, certain areas are drug infested dens.

I thought they arrested you in Florida today?

Major · 10-26-2018, 01:24 PM

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I thought they arrested you in Florida today?

No such luck! I would never do anything to hurt the BIG RED WAVE that will occur in 11 days. All this knucklehead did was hurt our cause.

VitaBene · 10-29-2018, 02:04 PM

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I thought they arrested you in Florida today?

What a ridiculous thing to say about a forum member, particularly a member of the court. Had you put a smiley or LOL at the end, it would have been taken as a tongue in cheek joke, but you failed to do so.

His politics may differ from yours, but to liken him to a whack-job who mailed pipe bombs to 10 plus people is obscene. His response to you was far more measured than you deserved.

Major · 10-29-2018, 04:16 PM

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What a ridiculous thing to say about a forum member, particularly a member of the court. Had you put a smiley or LOL at the end, it would have been taken as a tongue in cheek joke, but you failed to do so.

His politics may differ from yours, but to liken him to a whack-job who mailed pipe bombs to 10 plus people is obscene. His response to you was far more measured than you deserved.

Thanks for watching my back John. I took it as a tongue-in-cheek joke. However, given today's level of social discourse, he may not have been joking.

Hope all is well.

Mr. V · 10-26-2018, 12:14 PM

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Well, Trump did denounce NH as a "drug infested den."

A tough issue.

Sure, drug addicts are an adomination, but they pretty much all started out as decent people, with potential.

Why did they veer off the path?

What was absent in their lives, in their environment, that led them to seek chemical escape?

tis · 10-26-2018, 12:40 PM

I hate to repeat things because it's not really my business to, but I heard she was on life support and, if I remember the day right, it was the second night after she was shot, the family was told to make the decision. So I don't know if she is still on life support or not. They both had kids.

TCC · 10-26-2018, 02:09 PM

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What was absent in their lives, in their environment, that led them to seek chemical escape?

We could make a good guess: responsible, loving parents, positive role models, dedicated educators, a solid grounding in Christian values .... And conversely, what was present? A degenerate pop culture (music, movies, television), peer pressure amplified by out-of-control social media ....

I can't understand why anyone is the least bit surprised.

jeffk · 10-26-2018, 03:41 PM

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Why did they veer off the path?

What was absent in their lives, in their environment, that led them to seek chemical escape?

From personal experience I don't believe that it is necessarily the environment they are raised in. Some people are just different. Their brains are different. A "normal" person might perceive something happening in their life as a positive, enjoyable experience and a "different" person might interpret an almost identical occurrence as as very disturbing. Add up enough "disturbing" perceptions, "real" or not, and a person might seek some form of escape. Why does this happen? For some it's a measurable brain chemistry difference. For others it's just a physical neurological abnormality; an area of the brain under or over developed.

For some people, the environment certainly is bad and has an effect. But others, raised in horrible environments, turn out to be pretty well balanced.

It is not a simple thing to understand and very individualized. Because of that, there is not a one size fits all solution. That's what makes it so hard to deal with. Solutions for one are useless for another. Solutions that don't work for an individual today, might work 2 years from now.

kawishiwi · 10-26-2018, 04:03 PM

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From personal experience I don't believe that it is necessarily the environment they are raised in. Some people are just different. Their brains are different. A "normal" person might perceive something happening in their life as a positive, enjoyable experience and a "different" person might interpret an almost identical occurrence as as very disturbing. Add up enough "disturbing" perceptions, "real" or not, and a person might seek some form of escape. Why does this happen? For some it's a measurable brain chemistry difference. For others it's just a physical neurological abnormality; an area of the brain under or over developed.

For some people, the environment certainly is bad and has an effect. But others, raised in horrible environments, turn out to be pretty well balanced.

It is not a simple thing to understand and very individualized. Because of that, there is not a one size fits all solution. That's what makes it so hard to deal with. Solutions for one are useless for another. Solutions that don't work for an individual today, might work 2 years from now.

Mental health & addictive response. Combine depression & the latest/popular drug and you will have some people, from any population, from anytime in history, suffering from this. Some non-depressed become addicted and many depressed dont become addicts but the combo is at the center of it. Talk to ANYONE who has spent time professionally dealing with this.

tis · 10-26-2018, 05:54 PM

https://www.wmur.com/article/woman-i...icide/24284725

Irish mist · 10-26-2018, 07:08 PM

So the Lakes Region General Hospital got rid of their maternity ward & is now committed to becoming a major hub in drug treatment.

Some trade-off

Major · 10-26-2018, 07:14 PM

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So the Lakes Region General Hospital got rid of their maternity ward & is now committed to becoming a major hub in drug treatment.

Some trade-off

Yes. Big money.

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Cobalt 25 · 10-26-2018, 08:14 PM

The war on drugs has been a complete and total failure since the 70s. Lengthy incarceration and extreme sentencing for minor drug infractions have not worked. Rescinding the Rockefeller Laws has been a start.

We need to try something different, in my opinion. Programs involving rehabilitation instead of incarceration have shown some success, and some success is better than no success at all.

8gv · 10-27-2018, 12:18 AM

Each addict started off as somebody's little girl or boy.

Bad parenting can produce an addict.

Good parenting can also produce an addict.

Once addicted there are three possible outcomes:

Incarceration, death or rehab.

I support rehab as the least of these three evils.

Rehab is a worthy pursuit for the hospital and I am glad to see it happen.

ApS · 10-28-2018, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by 8gv

Each addict started off as somebody's little girl or boy.

Bad parenting can produce an addict.

Good parenting can also produce an addict.

Once addicted there are three possible outcomes:

Incarceration, death or rehab.

I support rehab as the least of these three evils.

Rehab is a worthy pursuit for the hospital and I am glad to see it happen.

How would parents' "toking" factor into "good parenting"?

8gv · 10-28-2018, 12:48 PM

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How would parents' "toking" factor into "good parenting"?

I don’t really understand the question.

10-25-2018, 10:08 AM	#1
WinnisquamZ Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 212 Thanked 665 Times in 439 Posts	After reading the information that has been released, the only things we know for sure are two people were shot, both known by the local police and the others in the house at the time are not talking. One thing we did learn is the town of Wolfeboro has a crack den!!! Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app

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SAMIAM Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Moultonborough Posts: 2,905 Thanks: 337 Thanked 1,680 Times in 589 Posts	Strange…..not a word on the evening news. I heard the woman has also died so that's two murders and still nothing.

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8gv Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 2,109 Thanks: 64 Thanked 748 Times in 482 Posts	Each addict started off as somebody's little girl or boy. Bad parenting can produce an addict. Good parenting can also produce an addict. Once addicted there are three possible outcomes: Incarceration, death or rehab. I support rehab as the least of these three evils. Rehab is a worthy pursuit for the hospital and I am glad to see it happen.