From today’s Laconia Daily Sun

[Turtle Boy]

Originally Posted by Major

There are as many "go fast be loud" boats on the lake as there has ever been. And believe it or not, they go over 45 mph, but are more discrete about it. I disagree with the notion that the recession/depression of 2009-2016 did not impact the number of boats on the lake. It did. Look at the lake this past week! I've NEVER seen it so crowded, now that we have a robust economy.

Also, I disagree that safety wasn't the overriding concern for the new law. Go back and read the articles - it was ALL about safety. And guess what, having a speed limit has not contributed to improved safety one iota. The out-of-stater legislators in Concord (transplants from other states) capitalized on a tragedy, and now we are stuck with this foolish law. This is yet another example of value systems from other states creeping into NH's Live Free or Die value system, and it sucks.

And by the way, I've been boating on the lake for over 40 years. My dad owned a boat that did 90, and my family I enjoyed every second of it. He was responsible, like most people with fast boats, and the pinky's up crowd had to take it away be cause it was too fast and too loud. Whaaaa!

Good point...I too have never seen the lake so crowded, one more reason that our present speed limit makes such good sense. But safety was only one facet of why the SL drew such support from such a large proportion of the citizens of NH who own the lake. And the WinnFabs site listed them all. It truly was unpleasant as per my I-93 median strip analogy. And this is why so many other lakes (Lake George for example) have speed limits.
As far as speeders being "more discreet" that must indeed be true because where we live the difference from before is phenomenal. If the SL made these boaters "more discrete" than that's just one more reason to applaud the 45/25 SL. And speaking of 45/25, if our present law were ever challenged in Concord I would urge WinnFABS to respond in kind with a bill to amend the SL to that of Squam, 40/20. As noted the lake is getting more and more crowded as are many other lakes all over the state. NH needs a state wide SL. And by the way, please review the Lake's Region Legislators who were NH natives who supported the law. There were plenty of them.

[ishoot308]

Originally Posted by Turtle Boy

Good point...I too have never seen the lake so crowded, one more reason that our present speed limit makes such good sense. But safety was only one facet of why the SL drew such support from such a large proportion of the citizens of NH who own the lake. And the WinnFabs site listed them all. It truly was unpleasant as per my I-93 median strip analogy. And this is why so many other lakes (Lake George for example) have speed limits.
As far as speeders being "more discreet" that must indeed be true because where we live the difference from before is phenomenal. If the SL made these boaters "more discrete" than that's just one more reason to applaud the 45/25 SL. And speaking of 45/25, if our present law were ever challenged in Concord I would urge WinnFABS to respond in kind with a bill to amend the SL to that of Squam, 40/20. As noted the lake is getting more and more crowded as are many other lakes all over the state. NH needs a state wide SL. And by the way, please review the Lake's Region Legislators who were NH natives who supported the law. There were plenty of them.

Just an FYI....the current speed limit is 45/30 not 45/25...

Just wanted to clarify.

Dan

[Seaplane Pilot]

Originally Posted by ishoot308

Just an FYI....the current speed limit is 45/30 not 45/25...

Just wanted to clarify.

Dan

Turtle Boy has been hiding in his turtle shell since his last post 2010! Post # 346 in the thread below was his last post. No wonder he can't get his facts straight.... Rip van “Turtle Boy” Winkle!

https://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums...ad.php?t=10601

[Turtle Boy]

Originally Posted by Seaplane Pilot

Turtle Boy has been hiding in his turtle shell since his last post 2010! Post # 346 in the thread below was his last post. No wonder he can't get his facts straight.... Rip van “Turtle Boy” Winkle!

https://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums...ad.php?t=10601

And clearly it was time for him to come out of hibernation given what would seem to be a few rather misleading interpretations of the facts since the implementation of a SL 8 years ago. Give it up! The SL is here to stay.

[BroadHopper]

Should be a game changer in this battle, SBONH is still alive and well while WINNFAB is dead!

Already SBONH has over 5,000 likes with IBOW having 6,000 and counting for a repeal.

I do not have a TWITTER account but was told there was about equal amount of tweets to repeal.

Guess the cons outweigh the pros at the moment.

STAY TUNED!

[Woodsy]

I seriously doubt we will see a a full repeal of the speed limit.... but there is certainly a strong enough argument to revise the daytime limit up to 60-65MPH just like on the highways. I think the Gov & the Senate would not be the issue... getting it thru the House might be a little tougher, but then again, had people been willing to compromise the first go around... we would already have a 65MPH daytime limit.

The nightime limit of 30MPH seems to be just fine....

Woodsy

[Turtle Boy]

Originally Posted by BroadHopper

Should be a game changer in this battle, SBONH is still alive and well while WINNFAB is dead!

Already SBONH has over 5,000 likes with IBOW having 6,000 and counting for a repeal.

I do not have a TWITTER account but was told there was about equal amount of tweets to repeal.

Guess the cons outweigh the pros at the moment.

STAY TUNED!

Wrong...WinnFABS is very much alive and as said I would like to see 40/20.

[Seaplane Pilot]

Originally Posted by Turtle Boy

Wrong...WinnFABS is very much alive and as said I would like to see 40/20.

WinnFabs might be alive, but it's on life support with a "DO NOT RESUSCITATE" order!

[BroadHopper]

The IBOLW account on Twitter is 16,000 strong!

Going to be a good ride!

[KDL]

I'd like to see 55/35.

[winni83]

Originally Posted by Turtle Boy

Wrong...WinnFABS is very much alive and as said I would like to see 40/20.

Then WinnFABS must be a zombie outfit since it was dissolved by the State of New Hampshire on 1/1/16 for failing to file the reports as required by law. An appropriate end. The name seems to be available for use by, say, an organization with a different view of things such as speed limits.

[Turtle Boy]

Originally Posted by winni83

Then WinnFABS must be a zombie outfit since it was dissolved by the State of New Hampshire on 1/1/16 for failing to file the reports as required by law. An appropriate end. The name seems to be available for use by, say, an organization with a different view of things such as speed limits.

How odd. And to think I've corresponded with several members in the last week. Perhaps they are zombies too. Spooky.

[winni83]

Corresponding with members of an organization that no longer exists? Interesting, but to each his own. Say hello to Elchase, Bearislandmoose, Sunset on the Dock, APS (formerly known as Acres Per Second) and your other fellow travelers.

[ApS]

Originally Posted by winni83

Corresponding with members of an organization that no longer exists? Interesting, but to each his own. Say hello to Elchase, Bearislandmoose, Sunset on the Dock, APS (formerly known as Acres Per Second) and your other fellow travelers.

You mention my old moniker, after Friday's recovery of this "Ocean-Racer-Eraser" from Lake Winnipesaukee's waters?

[winni83]

Sorry, that is incorrect. It is a sailboat eraser.

[codeman671]

Originally Posted by Turtle Boy

Good point...I too have never seen the lake so crowded, one more reason that our present speed limit makes such good sense. But safety was only one facet of why the SL drew such support from such a large proportion of the citizens of NH who own the lake. And the WinnFabs site listed them all. It truly was unpleasant as per my I-93 median strip analogy. And this is why so many other lakes (Lake George for example) have speed limits.
As far as speeders being "more discreet" that must indeed be true because where we live the difference from before is phenomenal. If the SL made these boaters "more discrete" than that's just one more reason to applaud the 45/25 SL. And speaking of 45/25, if our present law were ever challenged in Concord I would urge WinnFABS to respond in kind with a bill to amend the SL to that of Squam, 40/20. As noted the lake is getting more and more crowded as are many other lakes all over the state. NH needs a state wide SL. And by the way, please review the Lake's Region Legislators who were NH natives who supported the law. There were plenty of them.

Although Lake George has a speed limit I believe it also does not have a 150' safe passage law. Would you prefer boats opening up in the broads at safe distances or doing 45mph only 20 feet from you? Choose wisely, I would have to bet more accidents would come from lack of safe passage than speed.