New Marine Patrol Building & Shibley's at The Pier

[MikeM]

Originally Posted by Slickcraft

And soon a roof

is this where the pavilion was? I reciently heard the F&G tore down downings landing building. I ran the bait and canvas shop they throughout the 90s.

[TiltonBB]

The new building is pretty impressive!

[Pine Island Guy]

Originally Posted by TiltonBB

The new building is pretty impressive!

If you judged the building by what's tied up at the docks... you'd think it was an Eastern boat dealership

This weather has been a real treat -PIG

[Misha888]

Beep, Beep, Beep ... Beep, Beep, Beep Beep, Beep, Beep Beep, Beep, Beep Beep, Beep, Beep

Hoping they give it a freaking break for Memorial Day weekend. Yes, that includes the Friday before.

Beep, Beep, Beep Beep, Beep, Beep Beep, Beep, Beep Beep, Beep, Beep Beep, Beep, Beep Beep, Beep, Beep

[TiltonBB]

Beats being run over on a construction site!

[ishoot308]

The building is really looking nice!! They definitely did a nice job with the design and its a nice fit for the area! Love the stonework that's going in now.

Ill try and get some pics and post them here.

Dan

[Misha888]

Originally Posted by TiltonBB

Beats being run over on a construction site!

How would they know if someone was yelling?

And you live next to it 5/6 days a week 8 hours a day of it constantly going off. At times there are two or three. Oh, weekends too even though they state they don't do construction then. Model neighbors, indeed.

[TiltonBB]

Originally Posted by Misha888

How would they know if someone was yelling?

And you live next to it 5/6 days a week 8 hours a day of it constantly going off. At times there are two or three. Oh, weekends too even though they state they don't do construction then. Model neighbors, indeed.

If someone is running heavy equipment or driving and backing up a truck on a construction site the back up beeper, or bell, is to warn the people working around the machines who may be in the path of the machine. Generally the view to the rear is less than optimum and the back up alarm is for the workers, not the machine operator. The alarms are required by OSHA. Heavy equipment operators have their ability to hear yelling or other verbal direction limited because of the noise generated by the machine. That is why there are standard hand signals related to the operation of loaders, cranes etc.

[Flyfisha]

Years ago before these safety interventions a flagger was run over and killed while the New London/Sunapee sewer pipeline project was being installed. The alarm noise is a small price to pay in order to keep construction workers safe!
I am sure anyone on the construction site would rather not hear it either!

[Orion]

My car beeps to me when anything gets within 8'-10' when my car is in reverse. Just put the same sensors on equipment and make the beep loud and external. That will also keep the equipment from backing into things....maybe even add a backup camera. Cheap add-ons for what is very expensive equipment. Calmer nerves, quieter construction sites, etc. etc. etc. Do I have to invent everything?

[DickR]

While injury to someone in the path of a machine backing up certainly is something to be avoided, I have to wonder about long-term effectiveness of those hated beepers. After a worker on the site hears that loud repetitive beeping, does he tend to tune it out and just revert to normal attentiveness to the machine and what it is doing? Also, does the machine operator tend to assume that the beeping is a guarantee that the path behind is clear and just back up at will? That would be a threat to anyone who hears the beeping but can't get out of the way quickly enough. There aren't any guarantees.

I also have to wonder about whether there might be more effective solutions than typical government-imposed, one-size-fits-all legislation. I imagine the health care insurance companies that have to cough up when someone is injured on the job would be interested. I suspect the liability insurance companies don't care much, if at all, given that meeting legal compliance with the beeper regulation lets them off the hook. Any thoughts as to might be better for all?

Edit: Orion beat me to responding by four minutes, with some good ideas.

[Slickcraft]

As Phantom has noted, half or more of the building is for boat maintenance and storage.

[fltsimguy]

Is the MP boat on the left new? Seen the big one in the middle, which seems to rarely leave the dock. Anyone know why they have the larger boats, since they seem to use them very sparingly?

[PENIVISA]

Any plans on a open house?

[Descant]

Originally Posted by fltsimguy

Is the MP boat on the left new? Seen the big one in the middle, which seems to rarely leave the dock. Anyone know why they have the larger boats, since they seem to use them very sparingly?

I'd compare it to the Police or Fire Dept. The ladder truck doesn't roll on every call, the tactical command center is not used for patrols. However, in today's world, there's a lot of finger pointing if you fail to "save just one life" because you wanted to save a few dollars. Bigger boat may need a two man crew, and probably burns more fuel, so less suitable for routine patrol.

[Just Sold]

Had lunch at Shibley's at the Pier on their new deck yesterday. New deck is great and the food top notch! Also NECN was the taking video, but not sure if we will make it into the final cut.

[TiltonBB]

A lot of progress and the color looks great!

[ishoot308]

Originally Posted by TiltonBB

A lot of progress and the color looks great!

Great looking building and a wonderful addition to the area!!

Kudos to the Architect for his design and to Harvey Construction for having one of the cleanest and organized job sites I have ever seen. Never even saw a single piece of paper blowing around!

Dan

[Patiently Watching]

What a waste of money.

We drove through Laconia, Gilford and West Alton today and it looks like the area is struggling...

Good thing MP has a fancy new building at our expense.

[Reilly]

Originally Posted by Patiently Watching

What a waste of money.

We drove through Laconia, Gilford and West Alton today and it looks like the area is struggling...

Good thing MP has a fancy new building at our expense.

It was only $11 million for the project.Can't Believe It

[Breakwater]

Originally Posted by Patiently Watching

What a waste of money.

We drove through Laconia, Gilford and West Alton today and it looks like the area is struggling...

Good thing MP has a fancy new building at our expense.

Care to explain why this is a waste? Or just an opinion? As someone that looks at this building all season long, I am grateful for the state's approach to its construction. It "fits" the lake and is a tremendous improvement to the area.

As a lifetime boater on Winnipesaukee, I am impressed and proud of the building and glad the state erected a building worthy of being on the shore of our greatest natural resource.

Sure as hell beats their crumbling concrete building and the Quonset hut that was Glendale Marine (no offense to the staff of either building).

[bigpatsfan]

Originally Posted by Patiently Watching

What a waste of money.

We drove through Laconia, Gilford and West Alton today and it looks like the area is struggling...

Good thing MP has a fancy new building at our expense.

Just curious how you determined that the Gilford, West Alton areas are struggling? What economic data are you looking at?

I am curious as to why you didn't include the rest of the lake in you assessment as the Marine Patrol supports the entire lake. For example, how is the economy in Meridith, Wolfeboro, Alton...etc.

Basically what is your issue?

Is it where the marine patrol building is being built? Should it have been built in Meridith or Wolfeboro?
Is it the cost of the building?
Is it the fact that they are building a new building at all?

[NoBozo]

Originally Posted by Misha888

Beep, Beep, Beep ... Beep, Beep, Beep Beep, Beep, Beep Beep, Beep, Beep Beep, Beep, Beep

Hoping they give it a freaking break for Memorial Day weekend. Yes, that includes the Friday before.

Beep, Beep, Beep Beep, Beep, Beep Beep, Beep, Beep Beep, Beep, Beep Beep, Beep, Beep Beep, Beep, Beep

It's for the Children. Don't need no construction equipment inadvertently crushing children (on recess) under their wheels while backing up. Have a heart.

No one, complaining about the Beeps... EVER Saved a Child. NB

[ishoot308]

Here's a couple pics I just took...

[ishoot308]

Here's another.....

[laketrout]

I am sorry. Spend, spend , spend $$ Do respect the Marine Patrol and their thankless "at times job" and all the part timers - teachers , retired folks and young folks that want to work for them.
This building looks bigger then the US Coast Station New Castle New Hampshire. I hear the State trooper just got a new barracks there too..

However Is a $10 Million building really necessary on the Lake? I guess someone pushed it through! Federal Monies and or state monies or both? Must have a nice holding pen or jail in it, education center etc.. to much just IMO.

This reminds me of my hometown of Stratham in 2006 the town voted in (close vote) a 7 million dollar fire station to this day with its 8 full double stalls front and back only 2 or 3 are occupied.

At the least the building has a water view..

[Phantom]

I think that $10m is short money personally when you consider this is a long overdue STATE HEADQUARTER facility. This new facility (to my understanding) will have offices, training center & classrooms for Boater Ed and other purposes, holding cell(s) as well as Statewide dispatch center in addition to servicing the entire State of NH's Marine fleet.

When you look at this facility from the water, you get a different perspective. At least half (perhaps more) of the physical size of the building is "high bay" construction for boat storage and maintenance.

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[Slickcraft]

Originally Posted by MikeM

is this where the pavilion was? I reciently heard the F&G tore down downings landing building. I ran the bait and canvas shop they throughout the 90s.

Well Mike most of this thread has been about the new Marine Patrol building in Glendale, Gilford. Hence my comment a while ago about the new roof.

However another thread did talk about the buildings at Downings Landing being taken down. They are now gone, your old shop only a memory.
http://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums/...wnings+landing
The pavilion burned several years ago and has been rebuilt, now condos and some small shops.