Sailing on Foils? - America's Cup Thread

DBreskin · 09-09-2013, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SIKSUKR

Here's the question..why did the US get penalized 2 points in this race series for modifying 45' boats that had nothing to do with these boats?

It's not about the boats, it's about the races. The America's Cup is a competition consisting of a series of races including both the 45s and the 72s.

NoBozo · 09-09-2013, 06:13 PM

NZ won Race # 3 and Oracle won Race # 4. Oracle has to "GIVE UP" two wins right off the bat because of "Cheating" last year in the AC45s. I can't explain that. SO the score is NZ 3..Oracle 0.

This news is NO Where in the mainstream media. I had to Google "Americas Cup" to find it.

NB

NoBozo · 09-10-2013, 02:57 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5g3g...4WVQ7tyGgjTmqA

EDIT: At about 23 minutes into the video is an Excellent explanation on How the foils work.

NB

NoBozo · 09-11-2013, 02:47 PM

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireSto...naway-20217263

ApS · 09-14-2013, 04:24 AM

From the old fashioned cut of the sails, I'd guess this foil-sailing design dates from the 1950s—perhaps pre-war.

Vietnam "Police-Action"-era USS Flagstaff:

_________________________

A neighbor-renter brought his Farrier trimaran—below.

I'd posted earlier of a "ride" in one. My "ride" achieved 17-knots with 13 aboard—an International crew, counting at least three languages—I was getting beat-up and soaked, 'cuz the rest of the crew were in the galley, getting lunch! How beat-up, you ask? Though a brand-new Farrier-29, heavy water-action still managed to drive my right knee right through the trampoline!

With his Winter Harbor McMansion-rental running ~$5000/week, he surely was disappointed that winds were gentle during his stay. But at least he didn't have to motor around—and miss all the natural attributes that Lake Winnipesaukee has to offer.

webmaster · 09-25-2013, 08:12 AM

Wow! Oracle Team USA makes some adjustments to their boat, wins 7 races in a row and comes back from a 8-1 deficit to tie the series at 8-8 and set up a winner-take-all final race today! Too bad it's not on a weekend.

SIKSUKR · 09-25-2013, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webmaster

Wow! Oracle Team USA makes some adjustments to their boat, wins 7 races in a row and comes back from a 8-1 deficit to tie the series at 8-8 and set up a winner-take-all final race today! Too bad it's not on a weekend.

Wow really? I had stop following it cuz it looked over. Live coverage today at 4pm for all the marbles on NBC Sports Network Comcast 865. I'll be watching.

Lakesrider · 09-25-2013, 01:05 PM

Go Oracle. I hope I get home in time to see the race. Channel 220 at 4pm on Directv.

Orion · 09-25-2013, 03:39 PM

America's Cup stays in America! Good job team Oracle.

webmaster · 09-25-2013, 05:29 PM

That was an exciting final!

Post by America's Cup.

ishoot308 · 09-25-2013, 05:55 PM

Truly unbelievable!!!

jazzman · 09-25-2013, 09:54 PM

All the rah rah "team USA" stuff is annoying... There was exactly 1 American on the boat.

It does look like at least some of the design team are locals...

Lots of American $$$ behind the effort though.

It was fun to watch, but it's pretty rare air when only 4 teams can afford to even build a boat to enter.

There were only 7 AC72s in the world and 3 of them are wrecked/retired.

birchhaven · 09-26-2013, 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jazzman

All the rah rah "team USA" stuff is annoying... There was exactly 1 American on the boat.

It does look like at least some of the design team are locals...

Lots of American $$$ behind the effort though.

It was fun to watch, but it's pretty rare air when only 4 teams can afford to even build a boat to enter.

There were only 7 AC72s in the world and 3 of them are wrecked/retired.

Man just be happy America won. I guess when the pats win the super bowl this year it won't be worth celebrating because most of the team is not from NE and Tom Brady in particular is from California. :P
And when did it become the "in thing" to discredited someone's success because they have the means to further excel themselves.

jazzman · 09-26-2013, 08:59 AM

Well, the NFL doesn't bill itself as the oldest international sporting competition in existence.

I personally enjoyed the event and despite my extreme dislike of the owner, I did end up pulling for his team to win in the end because I was so impressed with what they did.

So big kudos to "team Oracle"...

SIKSUKR · 09-26-2013, 09:33 AM

I thought they blew the race at the first mark when they porpoised momentarily. I know a lot of traditionalist did not like these ac72s but for me it was way more exciting to watch. What was really cool is the incredible comeback, having to win the last 8 races and pulling it off.

NoBozo · 09-27-2013, 03:01 PM

http://www.youtube.com/user/AmericasCup

NB

09-09-2013, 06:13 PM	#2
NoBozo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Portsmouth. RI Posts: 2,231 Thanks: 400 Thanked 460 Times in 308 Posts	Race 3 & 4 NZ won Race # 3 and Oracle won Race # 4. Oracle has to "GIVE UP" two wins right off the bat because of "Cheating" last year in the AC45s. I can't explain that. SO the score is NZ 3..Oracle 0. This news is NO Where in the mainstream media. I had to Google "Americas Cup" to find it. NB

09-10-2013, 02:57 PM	#3
NoBozo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Portsmouth. RI Posts: 2,231 Thanks: 400 Thanked 460 Times in 308 Posts	Highlights Race 3 & 4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5g3g...4WVQ7tyGgjTmqA EDIT: At about 23 minutes into the video is an Excellent explanation on How the foils work. NB

09-11-2013, 02:47 PM	#4
NoBozo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Portsmouth. RI Posts: 2,231 Thanks: 400 Thanked 460 Times in 308 Posts	Shakeup Aboard Oracle..?? http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireSto...naway-20217263

09-14-2013, 04:24 AM	#5
ApS Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Florida (Sebring & Keys), Wolfeboro Posts: 5,939 Thanks: 2,209 Thanked 776 Times in 553 Posts	A Little "Foil" History... From the old fashioned cut of the sails, I'd guess this foil-sailing design dates from the 1950s—perhaps pre-war. Vietnam "Police-Action"-era USS Flagstaff: _________________________ A neighbor-renter brought his Farrier trimaran—below. I'd posted earlier of a "ride" in one. My "ride" achieved 17-knots with 13 aboard—an International crew, counting at least three languages—I was getting beat-up and soaked, 'cuz the rest of the crew were in the galley, getting lunch! How beat-up, you ask? Though a brand-new Farrier-29, heavy water-action still managed to drive my right knee right through the trampoline! With his Winter Harbor McMansion-rental running ~$5000/week, he surely was disappointed that winds were gentle during his stay. But at least he didn't have to motor around—and miss all the natural attributes that Lake Winnipesaukee has to offer. Attached Images

09-25-2013, 03:39 PM	#9
Orion Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Cow Island Posts: 914 Thanks: 602 Thanked 193 Times in 91 Posts	Yeaaa! America's Cup stays in America! Good job team Oracle.

09-25-2013, 08:12 AM	#6
webmaster Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 2,455 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 459 Thanked 3,830 Times in 840 Posts	Wow! Oracle Team USA makes some adjustments to their boat, wins 7 races in a row and comes back from a 8-1 deficit to tie the series at 8-8 and set up a winner-take-all final race today! Too bad it's not on a weekend.

09-25-2013, 01:05 PM	#8
Lakesrider Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,129 Thanks: 380 Thanked 1,016 Times in 345 Posts	Go Oracle. I hope I get home in time to see the race. Channel 220 at 4pm on Directv.

09-25-2013, 05:29 PM	#10
webmaster Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 2,455 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 459 Thanked 3,830 Times in 840 Posts	That was an exciting final! Post by America's Cup.

09-25-2013, 05:55 PM	#11
ishoot308 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Gilford, NH / Welch Island Posts: 6,281 Thanks: 2,401 Thanked 5,291 Times in 2,062 Posts	Fantastic! Truly unbelievable!!! __________________ It's Always Sunny On Welch Island!!

09-25-2013, 09:54 PM	#12
jazzman Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Mont Vernon NH & Big Barndoor Island Posts: 322 Thanks: 4 Thanked 184 Times in 62 Posts	All the rah rah "team USA" stuff is annoying... There was exactly 1 American on the boat. It does look like at least some of the design team are locals... Lots of American $$$ behind the effort though. It was fun to watch, but it's pretty rare air when only 4 teams can afford to even build a boat to enter. There were only 7 AC72s in the world and 3 of them are wrecked/retired.

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09-26-2013, 08:59 AM	#14
jazzman Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Mont Vernon NH & Big Barndoor Island Posts: 322 Thanks: 4 Thanked 184 Times in 62 Posts	Well, the NFL doesn't bill itself as the oldest international sporting competition in existence. I personally enjoyed the event and despite my extreme dislike of the owner, I did end up pulling for his team to win in the end because I was so impressed with what they did. So big kudos to "team Oracle"...

09-26-2013, 09:33 AM	#15
SIKSUKR Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,075 Thanks: 215 Thanked 903 Times in 509 Posts	I thought they blew the race at the first mark when they porpoised momentarily. I know a lot of traditionalist did not like these ac72s but for me it was way more exciting to watch. What was really cool is the incredible comeback, having to win the last 8 races and pulling it off. __________________ SIKSUKR

09-27-2013, 03:01 PM	#16
NoBozo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Portsmouth. RI Posts: 2,231 Thanks: 400 Thanked 460 Times in 308 Posts	Race #19 http://www.youtube.com/user/AmericasCup NB