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Old 03-23-2011, 04:33 AM   #1
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A women dies from dogs and the owner gets out of jail in four years. Pays to be an attorney in California and know the court system.
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Old 03-23-2011, 06:11 AM   #2
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Jniff, did the dog bite really break the skin, did the dog's saliva touch your blood? Is there any chance you where exposed to rabies?

If not treated in the first few days, rabies is 100% deadly. If your skin was broken and you could see you own blood, you have risk. I would see a doctor today. It's your life, and once you have symptoms it's may be too late.

I don't want to be an alarmist but you absolutely need to call the Meredith police today and find out the women's name. You have find out if the dogs have current rabies vacinations. You need to see this for yourself.
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Old 03-23-2011, 09:08 AM   #3
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I would have bitten the dog back
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Old 03-23-2011, 09:15 AM   #4
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Default Well let’s see if I can remember all the questions....

The dogs were all golden brown about 15-20lbs each (ankle biters) literally...most of them had short-med. length straight fur but the one that bit me was female, because the owner referred to her as that, and was very short tight curly hair. I have an English bulldog so I'm not too familiar with little dog breeds. I guess I should have had him with me..he would have had a lovely snack The women was in her 60s I'd say with shoulder length hair white/blond with the reddest cheeks I've ever seen. She was driving a beige Toyota camry le hatchback. License plate # 291 3239
The bite marks never drew blood. Looked more like if you scuff you shin and your skin peels and bruises...It happened on Saturday so if I was infected with anything I would already know it...I hope?
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Old 03-23-2011, 08:44 PM   #5
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Looked more like if you scuff you shin and your skin peels and bruises...It happened on Saturday so if I was infected with anything I would already know it...I hope?
Being infected with rabies is not like a little infection from a cut. It is deadly. Once you have symptoms, you will not survive. It is my understanding that you have a few days to get the shots, and that will prevent you from getting rabies. This is not a wait and see what happens kind of thing. You need to see if the dog had it shots or just go and get the shots for yourself to be sure.

If your skin looked scuffed then the skin was probably broken... And yes... I do mean to scare you.

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... I do mean to scare you.

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I have read that your chances of avoiding a rabies infection is greatly increased if you wash with soap and water immediately. But... This is no substitute for prompt medical attention which would include getting the dogs vaccination history.

There is a new shot you can be given that is less painful and has fewer side-effects than the traditional treatment but there may be a window of opportunity for it. Call your doctor and get a copy of the police report. Find out if ALL those dogs had shots in case you ID'd the wrong one.

The good news is that rabies in domestic dogs is almost unheard of now. But my advice is to not play the odds in this.

Good luck!
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Old 03-24-2011, 06:52 AM   #7
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A couple of years ago I had the rabies shots. It is true, they are not painful like they used to be and they are not in the stomach as I heard they used to be. I had a series of 4 all at once and then 3 every week I think it was. It used to be for 4 weeks as I remember. I had the first shots in Maine and it cost almost ten thousand dollars. The others were only about 300 each as I recall. Even though my insurance said they covered rabies shots they gave me a hard time. They covered all but about 1200$.
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Old 03-24-2011, 09:37 AM   #8
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Wow. $10K for rabies shots??? I am thunderstruck by the cost... but really, please, take this to the next step-get police report, etc., it's been like a week already ... and yes, we DO mean to be alarmist.
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Old 03-24-2011, 09:40 AM   #9
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Wow. $10K for rabies shots??? I am thunderstruck by the cost... but really, please, take this to the next step-get police report, etc., it's been like a week already ... and yes, we DO mean to be alarmist.
I was thunderstruck too! I had it in So. Maine Med. Center because Huggins didn't have enough. But I know someone else who had their first series at Huggins and it was almost half the price. I never could figure out why. I had the last shots at Huggins.
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Old 03-23-2011, 09:44 AM   #10
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A women dies from dogs and the owner gets out of jail in four years. Pays to be an attorney in California and know the court system.


Was Kimberly Guillyfoyle who went on to become a talking head on FOX. She may be the only female on FOX who is not blonde.
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I believe it is the same Kimberly. You can check her bio on google.
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Old 03-23-2011, 07:25 PM   #12
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Too bad you didn't have a roll of duct tape with you. I would have wrapped that muzzle with a whole roll......and then stuck it to a wall somewhere.
Good thing that wasn't me. I don';t think I would have been so patient. I would have had the cops on the phone ASAP, and have them collect the dogs, until she could show her vaccination/license papers for each dog.
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Old 03-23-2011, 08:12 PM   #13
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You need to get back to Police.
To be told by employee we rent, is true but certainly they have a great deal of involvement in the parking lot. Their shopping cart corals are in parking lot.
If employee was the manager, I think an inexcusable response.
Any market should have concern for customer's well being.
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Old 03-23-2011, 08:46 PM   #14
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I too am a dog owner and You did the right thing. If it were me, I would have put that dog down in the parking lot PERIOD!!!!

My dog roams free on MY LAND, But is on a leash anywhere I take her. As some else said. Ya can't fix STUPID!
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Old 05-08-2011, 07:56 AM   #15
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Even in the peaceful, non-urban surrounds of The Lakes Region, my current opinion of irresponsible dog owners is defined by the Dianne Whipple case in San Francisco. Google it! and see how true evil can be manifest through an animal.

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Was Kimberly Guillyfoyle who went on to become a talking head on FOX. She may be the only female on FOX who is not blonde.

Wow, talk about misinformation. Although it is true that Kimberly Guilfoyle is currently a Fox news contributor, she was NOT the plaintiff in the tragic Dianne Whipple case. The plaintiffs were two attorneys, Marjorie Knoller and Robert Noel and Fox's Kimberly Guilfoyle was the ADA/prosecutor.

Also, while it is true that one of the plaintiffs (Knoller) was paroled after 4 years, that parole was revoked On August 23, 2010 when the First District Court of Appeal in San Francisco ruled 3-0 that the plaintiff Knoller acted with a conscious disregard for human life when her dogs killed Diane Whipple. Knoller is currently serving a sentence of 15 years to life.
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Wow, talk about misinformation. Although it is true that Kimberly Guilfoyle is currently a Fox news contributor, she was NOT the plaintiff in the tragic Dianne Whipple case. The plaintiffs were two attorneys, Marjorie Knoller and Robert Noel and Fox's Kimberly Guilfoyle was the ADA/prosecutor.

Also, while it is true that one of the plaintiffs (Knoller) was paroled after 4 years, that parole was revoked On August 23, 2010 when the First District Court of Appeal in San Francisco ruled 3-0 that the plaintiff Knoller acted with a conscious disregard for human life when her dogs killed Diane Whipple. Knoller is currently serving a sentence of 15 years to life.
If Knoller was paroled, that would mean that this was a criminal matter in which Knoller and Noel were defendants and not plaintiffs, right?

I don't think that anyone was saying or implying that either Diane Whipple or Kimberly Guilfoyle was the defendant in this matter.
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If Knoller was paroled, that would mean that this was a criminal matter in which Knoller and Noel were defendants and not plaintiffs, right?

I don't think that anyone was saying or implying that either Diane Whipple or Kimberly Guilfoyle was the defendant in this matter.

Yes, you are correct Knoller and Noel were the defendants. Also, I misread garysanfran's comment.
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I think I had a run in today with whom I believe is Dog woman and the terrible 5-6.

I was at Lowe's getting some replacement plants for my mole garden, when up runs these 5 brown dogs. At first I didn't put two and two together, but when one came up and started barking at me, I remembred this story....

Is this them? Can it be a coincidence?

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I am very sorry to read about these dogs. It hurts those of us who are responsible dog owners. We take our dogs almost everywhere with us too, and the more people are like this woman, the less people will allow dogs. When we go somewhere we are often told how well behaved our dogs are. They say they are even better than lots of kids. Of course we are usually holding them----
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I think I had a run in today with whom I believe is Dog woman and the terrible 5-6.

I was at Lowe's getting some replacement plants for my mole garden, when up runs these 5 brown dogs. At first I didn't put two and two together, but when one came up and started barking at me, I remembred this story....

Is this them? Can it be a coincidence?

Yes, that looks like them to me. Hard to tell from the small photo, but most of the dogs in question are curly haired golden poodles, if that is breed of dog. I am surprised that they stood still long enough for a photo! Natt's wife
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The pictures that have been posted ARE the dogs!! They are mini poodles and pomeranians. This woman was driving down Long Point Rd. the other day with the dogs running behind her and stopped in front of my kids babysitters house...my kids and the babysitters son were playing in the front yard and she looked at them and called them stupid and then as she was getting the dogs in her car looked right at them and preceeded to say "Damn kids" as she drove away! A friend of mine also had a run in with her on Veasy Shores Rd. in Meredith where she saw the dogs but NO SIGN of any car. She stopped and the dogs tried to get in to her car...shortly after the woman pulls up from WAY down there street (and out of eye sight) and told MY friend to watch out for her dogs and "can't you see??" I'm sorry but this is getting REALLY out of hand and if these dogs are not under the leash law, which they are not, then the people are going to have to take matters into their own hands because I'm tired of some whack job thinking she can have her misbehaving, BITING dogs run where SHE pleases!
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