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01-21-2011, 09:15 AM | #1 |
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"Monster" Storm for Jan 25, 26??
Ok, now that this month's flurries are coming to an end today, sneak reports of a "Monster" storm are surfacing for next week, with a Nor'Easter expected here Tuesday and/or Wednesday. Any truth to this? And what's the scientific definition of "Monster", just so I know? Specifically, is it more or less than "Blizzard"?
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I have checked several weather websites and even the one I have found to be the most consistant "the National Weather Service" currently shows nothing for Tuesday / Tuesday night and only a 30% chance of precipitation for Wed / Wed night & Thur. The Weather Channel website shows o% precip for Tue and only a 30% chance for Wed.
A man I just spoke with on the phone who operates a large plowing service mentioned a possible big storm for Tuesday. So, only time will tell ! |
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Oh Yeah! Big storm on the models.
There is a thread about the potential storm here: http://forums.accuweather.com/index....=780&start=780
Of course, we are still 5 days away, but it looks like a monster as of now. |
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NWS Technical discussion
From this morning....
.LONG TERM /TUESDAY THROUGH THURSDAY/... HIGHLIGHTS... *ANOTHER VERY COLD NIGHT MON NIGHT *POTENTIAL MAJOR WINTER STORM NEXT WED/THU ANOTHER VERY COLD NIGHT IS EXPECTED MON NIGHT WITH TEMPS EXPECTED BELOW ZERO FOR MOST OF THE INTERIOR WITH SURFACE HIGH OVERHEAD...MOSTLY CLEAR SKIES AND SOLID SNOW COVER. ALTHOUGH AIR MASS HAS BEGUN TO MODERATE PER TEMP CHANGES AT 850 MB...RADIATIONAL COOLING EXPECTED TO BE OPTIMUM AND MANY INTERIOR SHELTERED LOCATIONS MAY BE NEARLY AS COLD AS SUN NIGHT. MAIN FOCUS FOR THIS TIME PERIOD NOW SHIFTS TO POTENTIAL MAJOR STORM AROUND MID WEEK. THE ECMWF HAS TRENDED SLOWER WITH ITS 00Z RUN AND IS NOW ONLY ABOUT 6 HOURS FASTER THAN THE OPERATIONAL GFS. THE GGEM IS STILL WAY SLOWER BECAUSE IT DIGS THE SOUTHERN STREAM ENERGY INTO THE GULF OF CALIFORNIA BEFORE LIFTING IT TOWARD THE GULF OF MEXICO. AS PER THE PREEPD...THAT SOLUTION DOES NOT SEEM TO BE AS LIKELY GIVEN THE PATTERN THIS WINTER SO FAR. ALTHOUGH THERE WILL BE MANY DETAILS TO WORK OUT FOR AN EVENT THAT IS STILL AT LEAST 5 OR 6 DAYS AWAY...MEDIUM RANGE MODELS HAVE BEEN SIGNALING A POTENTIAL SIGNIFICANT COASTAL STORM ALREADY FOR SEVERAL DAYS. MANY OF THE DETAILS WILL AGAIN INVOLVE THE TIMING OF PHASING BETWEEN NORTHERN AND SOUTHERN STREAMS. THERE SEEMS TO BE GOOD EVIDENCE THAT A FAIRLY POWERFUL STORM MAY EVOLVE FROM JUST THE SOUTHERN STREAM WITH COPIOUS GULF AND SUBTROPICAL ATLC MOISTURE. THE ECMWF THERMAL PROFILE HAS GOTTEN SOMEWHAT COLDER WITH SUCCESSIVE RUNS AND IS COLDER THAN THE OPERATIONAL 00Z GFS. INCLINED TO THINK THE COLDER PROFILE MAY MAKE SENSE GIVEN THE DEPTH AND EXTENT OF ARCTIC AIR RESIDENT OVER NEW ENGLAND. NONETHELESS...WESTWARD EXTENT OF THE TRACK WILL BE A DETERMINING FACTOR. FOR NOW...GOING WITH PTYEP OF SNOW ESSENTIAL ALONG AND NW OF THE BOS-PVD CORRIDOR AND RAIN OR SNOW TO THE SE. HAVE KEPT POPS IN CHANCE RANGE DUE TO HOW FAR OUT IN TIME...BUT INCREASED A LITTLE AND ADJUSTED TO ACCOMMODATE THE PROBABLE SLOWER TIMING FROM PRIOR RUNS. THIS HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BE A VERY HIGH IMPACT EVENT WITH HEAVY SNOW AND HIGH WINDS. ASTRO TIDES HAVE COME DOWN SINCE PAST THE FULL MOON BUT STILL MIGHT HAVE TO DEAL WITH SOME COASTAL FLOODING AND SIGNIFICANT BEACH EROSION...IF EITHER THE 00Z ECMWF OR 00Z GFS SOLUTION COMES CLOSE TO VERIFYING. This will start to get MAJOR hype in the next few days if the models start to come to consensus. BT
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Reads like an area forecast discussion to me.
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The Weather Channel website has now changed the Wed / Thur forcast to a 70% chance of precipitation. The National Weather Service hasn't updated theirs yet, their still showing only a 30% chance.
I think we have more than enough snow on the ground. If were lucky the storm won't hit us to hard. I am ready for spring. I have had enough of this white crap. |
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That makes two of us!!! (perhaps more!)
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count me in......
I work outside, and this weather is getting really old fast. Don't get me wrong, i like to snowshoe and hike in the woods, but three feet of snow is enough, already! Not to mention the artic air just now pouring in.
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Can't wait for spring,and of course ice out.
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Snow
I love snow and to ski and hope for a good amount. :-)
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01-23-2011, 08:21 PM | #18 |
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I'M SENDING YOU SOME SPRING!!!!!
This only takes a second and it feels so good! I think we all need a little spring today! I'm sending you some Spring!!!! Click on the snowman. You will get a black page. Click your mouse anywhere (& everywhere) on the page & see what happens! Better yet, click (hold down) & drag your mouse over the black page... Enjoy!!
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Spring!
Thanks RLW! I needed that!!!!!
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Yikes!
Little chilly up on MT Washington this AM...
Wind Chill minus 70
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Brrrrrrrr!
At 7:00 AM 1-24-11 Wolfeboro.
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Just dropped my daughter off for school minus 1 degree in Nashua. Can't wait for snow it'll be warmer at least.
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That's nothing
I was only 10 below in Bedford. My friends house in Whitefield was 32 below.
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It was 10 below at 7:00 AM in West Alton this morning, too. It's "up" to 2 below now at 10:20 AM.
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http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/ If you look at the following loop it appears that most of the moisture will be offshore. But then, it's only a computer forecast http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwp...p_m_loop.shtml
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WHDH Boston 4:00pm weather forecast just called for a big storm hitting Boston and lesser amounts North and West. Still significant and very similar to all other storms this season. It has been a weird winter, getting way more snow in Boston and lesser amounts around the lakes region.
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That said the folks I follow continue to believe that central NH, including the Lakes Region, are still in the possibility of the jackpot range (12+) for this storm with SE New England including Boston to receive a mix or rain. The classic "north and west" of 495/95 storms we used to see a few years back. Anyways, I know we could use a good foot over our way at the OVSC, especially on the rails & switches of Corridor 19. Same with out towards Sandwich way. Rode from Tamworth to Sandwich Notch yesterday, couldn't believe how much the snow fell off over the Sandwich side of the ridge! We sledders need more snow...here's hoping for a major dumping Wednesday into Thursday! Last edited by Skip; 01-24-2011 at 05:01 PM. Reason: CSL to CLA...losing my brain cells reading FLL posts! |
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I really really really really hope you are right Skip. I agree with you in many ways, in that I look at several sources before I "buy into it" so to speak. I always love reading Rose and CLA's take as well as others that chime in. I get much more of an education from those folks than the personalities you speak of.
Fingers crossed for a blockbuster in the Lakes and North. I'd be OK with a mix and rain here at home, I have way too much and I'd like to send it your way! |
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This is another tricky one. Some models are still showing the storm being too far south and east to impact us, others saying we get good snow.
Must be hard to be a weather guy these days when the guidance that you tend to lean on is so wishy-washy leading up to an event. It brings out the best weather guys, the guys who can forecast without depending on a computer. Unfortunately there are not too many of them around anymore.
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Looking more and more like this storm is going to be a miss for this area. Many storms this year have trended E or NW the last 18 to 36 hours. This one does not appear to be doing so. Hope I'm wrong...
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A monster miss
As of this morning it looks like pretty much a miss for the lakes. Maybe a few inches and nothing where I would like to see it. I really pay very little attention to snow total forecasts until about 24 hours before the storm. Any loger in this part of the world is pure horseshoes. It's too fine of line on 2 feet or 2 inches in NE.
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It's been coming down hot and heavy since 9AM, here in CT. No more room to put the darn stuff.
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I'm working in East Hartford, CT and it isn't snowing here yet...well maybe around ten flakes.
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Can't wait for spring...
I'll bring this with me in the spring. I took this on the left coast a couple days ago...Sorry!
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My comment is quite valid, whether you or some business owners agree with it or not. Maybe your not strapped for disposable funds for extra snow removal but there is a hell of alot of people here who are ! And, YES. Someday I certainly hope to go live where I don't have to see snow. |
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Now this ole geezer has spent 72 years in New England 4 seasons and still looks for the following. , ,
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Lakes Region is a tourist area...
...and as such caters to the tourists who frequent our area each season. To say that we have too much snow and don't need any more certainly doesn't help the many businesses who depend on the winter tourists, such as restaurants, gas stations, motels, food stores, etc. Much the same can be said in the summer about the vehicular traffic in our towns, and the boat traffic in the summer on our lakes. It's all a part of living here. Our local contractors who build, repair, and improve the properties in our area are the same people who do property management and plowing in the winter.
When we look at living somewhere, we need to look beyond tax rates and good schools. Is it a case of love it or leave it? Of course not. If we do not like winter and are planning to move to warmer climes, we can certainly hope that time will arrive sooner rather than later. In the meantime, let those who enjoy it, or even more importantly need the snow to continue their livelyhood have their success. JMHO
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Bring it on
52 years in the snow and I love it. I maintain my personnel property and my business walkways and entrances as well. That's life. If I didn't like it I would sure as heck move south. I'm sure those same people would be complaining how hot it is in the summer though. Lots of peoples income are tied to snowfall in NH including yours indirectly with tourism dollars offsetting taxes. Never understood people that stayed in an area yet complained about the climate. Bring it on!
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NJ worse than New England this winter
Sure wish I could send you guys some of our snow to help build up the trails. We don't know where to go with it anymore. We had 15" overnight which brings the total snowfall here in northern NJ to 70 inches since 12/26. Here's my place after cleaning up this a.m.
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No shortage of snow at my house in the Boston area either!
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Official total = 19 inches
Just saw on the 5 pm news that our city Clifton, NJ and Central Park in NY both registered 19" of snowfall with this 24 hour storm. Most neighboring towns came in between 16 and 19 inches as well. Wish we could bottle it and send it to the lakes region. Hoping the runway in Alton Bay can also be done before the Winter Carnival weekend.
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Sadly, the piles in those pictures look small to me. Some of mine are well over 12'! Thankfully I have a tractor with a front loader or we would still be snowed in here in the Worcester area of MA!
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