Suspicious Death in Wolfeboro

fatlazyless · 08-18-2010, 02:42 PM

With all these posts this has probably been mentioned before but here's my two cents.

900-lbs of marijuana is worth a lot of money, and getting stopped on an interstate highway in the winter time in the Chicago, Illinois area for going 70-mph in a 65-mph speed zone seems unusual. Also, for the arresting officer who made the stop to be able to smell the odor of marijuana which presumably was wrapped, duffled, and carried in the cargo area of a full size pickup truck underneath a fiberglass tuneau cover also seems unusual.

Could it be that the police were aware of the vehicle before it was stopped, supposedly for speeding, and that the murder was retribution from a drug dealer, angry for his loss, because a cause & effect connection was real in his mind?

brk-lnt · 08-18-2010, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by fatlazyless

With all these posts this has probably been mentioned before but here's my two cents.

900-lbs of marijuana is worth a lot of money, and getting stopped on an interstate highway in the winter time in the Chicago, Illinois area for going 70-mph in a 65-mph speed zone seems unusual. Also, for the arresting officer who made the stop to be able to smell the odor of marijuana which presumably was wrapped, duffled, and carried in the cargo area of a full size pickup truck underneath a fiberglass tuneau cover also seems unusual.

Could it be that the police were aware of the vehicle before it was stopped, supposedly for speeding, and that the murder was retribution from a drug dealer, angry for his loss, because a cause & effect connection was real in his mind?

Doubtful.

I-94, which runs East/West through Michigan and Illinois is the primary drug corridor in that region (I grew up in the Detroit 'burbs). The police do a lot of "profiling" of vehicles and have gotten pretty good at picking out the mules. One of the main things that is a giveaway is a vehicle doing exactly 5 over on a roadway that usually has people doing 15-25 over for long stretches. Couple that with suspension sag and/or lack of suspension travel (from a beefed up undercarriage) on a road that is filled with potholes, and you have a high probability of a mule vehicle.

It doesn't take any "anonymous tips" to pick these vehicles off.

fatlazyless · 08-19-2010, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by brk-lnt

Doubtful. The police do a lot of "profiling" of vehicles and have gotten pretty good at picking out the mules.

It doesn't take any "anonymous tips" to pick these vehicles off.

Probably, I have seen too many police stories on the tv boob tube, but whatcha think about this possibility?

It was a full-sized, late model, big money Chevy pickup, so couldn't the police have been track'n it by gps with its' GM On-Star service and just used the excess 5-mph for an excuse to stop, and then used the supposed 'strong odor' as a reasonable cause to search the vehicle?

brk-lnt · 08-19-2010, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by fatlazyless

Probably, I have seen too many police stories on the tv boob tube, but whatcha think about this possibility?

It was a full-sized, late model, big money Chevy pickup, so couldn't the police have been track'n it by gps with its' GM On-Star service and just used the excess 5-mph for an excuse to stop, and then used the supposed 'strong odor' as a reasonable cause to search the vehicle?

No.

Go refold your tinfoil hat. They are getting to you.

chowda · 08-20-2010, 09:30 PM

Why don't you think about the possibility that this all goes back to the first person in town that got busted, NOT Stacey Burns. Remember, the local guy that was a teacher/coach at a NH high school was arrested selling oxycontin. It was on the news and in the papers, and then all of a sudden nothing could be found online anymore. Somehow this same person never went to trial or jail and now lives in Virginia (hopefully not working at another school) without any of the problems that most would encounter after being caught committing such a crime. One could then also take into account the other ensuing drug related arrests in town. Maybe the serious possibility of a person actually arrested for dealing/ratting should be considered before attributing any of this to Stacey's murder. I just hope 20/20, along with the authorities are truly looking into ALL of the possible people that could have committed this crime and take into account ALL of the leads that they have been given.

tis · 08-21-2010, 06:26 AM

That is interesting chowda. I didn't think of that connection. I did wonder how he got to just go away to Va. So you think he made a deal?

gokart-mozart · 08-21-2010, 03:13 PM

I've wondered (and posted) about a possible drug connection for a long time - but I don't know any of the people involved, so trying to put it all together involves wild speculation.

1) I agree the JL bust is strange. I also agree he, or his vehicle, were probably targeted based on information coming from here.

2) After the arrest mentioned above, there WERE a lot of minor busts, plus the one in Brookfield which may have been not so minor.

3) Based on hearsay, the Burns murder was a passionate crime - that is, the killer inflicted injuries greater than required to achieve the desired end.

Most people have supposed that the passion was romantic in nature, somehow (jealousy). But there are other kinds of passion, for example, revenge or a warning to others.

I keep coming back to the "summit" that Strelzin had sometime in the Fall when the DA, NHSP, Major Crime Unit, WPD, and "others Strelzin declined to name" were present. Some have suggested those others were Feds.

If the Feds are involved in this case, in any way, then it's much more complicated than the "husband vs. boyfriend" speculators would have it. Perhaps we'll learn more from 20/20 - although I suspect Wolfe City will just wind up getting trashed.

Skip · 08-25-2010, 09:39 AM

According to THIS Union Leader story ABC's 20-20 will do a feature story on this case.

RI Swamp Yankee · 08-25-2010, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip

According to THIS Union Leader story ABC's 20-20 will do a feature story on this case.

That was mentioned in post 232 by APS.

http://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums/...&postcount=232

secondcurve · 08-26-2010, 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by RI Swamp Yankee

That was mentioned in post 232 by APS.

http://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums/...&postcount=232

It was but then there was an additional article with more information that Skip posted. Thanks Skip.

08-18-2010, 02:42 PM	#1
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,766 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 300 Thanked 1,017 Times in 740 Posts	With all these posts this has probably been mentioned before but here's my two cents. 900-lbs of marijuana is worth a lot of money, and getting stopped on an interstate highway in the winter time in the Chicago, Illinois area for going 70-mph in a 65-mph speed zone seems unusual. Also, for the arresting officer who made the stop to be able to smell the odor of marijuana which presumably was wrapped, duffled, and carried in the cargo area of a full size pickup truck underneath a fiberglass tuneau cover also seems unusual. Could it be that the police were aware of the vehicle before it was stopped, supposedly for speeding, and that the murder was retribution from a drug dealer, angry for his loss, because a cause & effect connection was real in his mind? __________________ ... down and out, liv'n that Walmart side of the lake!

08-21-2010, 03:13 PM	#7
gokart-mozart Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 193 Thanks: 2 Thanked 54 Times in 34 Posts	The Drug Connection Possibility (Speculation) I've wondered (and posted) about a possible drug connection for a long time - but I don't know any of the people involved, so trying to put it all together involves wild speculation. 1) I agree the JL bust is strange. I also agree he, or his vehicle, were probably targeted based on information coming from here. 2) After the arrest mentioned above, there WERE a lot of minor busts, plus the one in Brookfield which may have been not so minor. 3) Based on hearsay, the Burns murder was a passionate crime - that is, the killer inflicted injuries greater than required to achieve the desired end. Most people have supposed that the passion was romantic in nature, somehow (jealousy). But there are other kinds of passion, for example, revenge or a warning to others. I keep coming back to the "summit" that Strelzin had sometime in the Fall when the DA, NHSP, Major Crime Unit, WPD, and "others Strelzin declined to name" were present. Some have suggested those others were Feds. If the Feds are involved in this case, in any way, then it's much more complicated than the "husband vs. boyfriend" speculators would have it. Perhaps we'll learn more from 20/20 - although I suspect Wolfe City will just wind up getting trashed.

08-25-2010, 09:39 AM	#8
Skip Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Dover, NH Posts: 1,615 Thanks: 256 Thanked 514 Times in 182 Posts	20-20 doing a feature story on this crime According to THIS Union Leader story ABC's 20-20 will do a feature story on this case.

08-20-2010, 09:30 PM	#5
chowda Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Why don't you think about the possibility that this all goes back to the first person in town that got busted, NOT Stacey Burns. Remember, the local guy that was a teacher/coach at a NH high school was arrested selling oxycontin. It was on the news and in the papers, and then all of a sudden nothing could be found online anymore. Somehow this same person never went to trial or jail and now lives in Virginia (hopefully not working at another school) without any of the problems that most would encounter after being caught committing such a crime. One could then also take into account the other ensuing drug related arrests in town. Maybe the serious possibility of a person actually arrested for dealing/ratting should be considered before attributing any of this to Stacey's murder. I just hope 20/20, along with the authorities are truly looking into ALL of the possible people that could have committed this crime and take into account ALL of the leads that they have been given.

08-21-2010, 06:26 AM	#6
tis Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,749 Thanks: 752 Thanked 1,459 Times in 1,016 Posts	That is interesting chowda. I didn't think of that connection. I did wonder how he got to just go away to Va. So you think he made a deal?