State Symbol Suggestions for the Gov.

[Mee-n-Mac]

Originally Posted by Seaplane Pilot

I heard a news story this week that our esteemed Gov. is upset that NH does not have a true "symbol" that people associate with the State. He noted that Maine has the "Lobster" and Vermont has the "Cow", but poor NH has nothing.

Can't swing a dead cat w/o hitting one of these. Seems pretty NH-ish to me.

[Gearhead]

Pickup Truck. I've never seen so many in one place in my life.

[Rattlesnake Guy]

Originally Posted by Gearhead

Pickup Truck. I've never seen so many in one place in my life.

Texans drive 10% of the nation's pickups and 27% of the vehicles registered in the state are pickups.

[Eagle]

How about the bedbug? There seems to be more and more of them being brought into our State.

[Seaplane Pilot]

There is an excellent guest editorial in this week's Weirs Times by Tom Thompson. It addresses the same issues about Concord brought forth on this thread. Editorial begins on page 7 - right hand side:

http://content.yudu.com/Library/A1nq...m?referrerUrl=

Time to wake up and take action in November.

[LakeSnake]

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[John A. Birdsall]

I have seen what I think should be the symbol of NH for over 63 years, it has changed a couple of times in that period. Added a deck over the bow, added 25' to its length, and just now for the second time have replaced its purpulsion power. (forget the spelling pls.) I think the Mount Washington should be the symbol of NH.

[Grady223]

Originally Posted by John A. Birdsall

I have seen what I think should be the symbol of NH for over 63 years, it has changed a couple of times in that period. Added a deck over the bow, added 25' to its length, and just now for the second time have replaced its purpulsion power. (forget the spelling pls.) I think the Mount Washington should be the symbol of NH.

I agree John!

[Misty Blue]

Ya know John, I think that you are on the right track. Think about this.

Artists please help! Here's the idea.

A simbol of the Mount Washington plying our state's largest lake with Mt. Washington in the background?

I know that we all have a special attachment to the Lake but I think that such a symbol would represent the best of our New Hampshire and please most.

Misty Blue

[Argie's Wife]

Originally Posted by Misty Blue

Ya know John, I think that you are on the right track. Think about this.

Artists please help! Here's the idea.

A simbol of the Mount Washington plying our state's largest lake with Mt. Washington in the background?

I know that we all have a special attachment to the Lake but I think that such a symbol would represent the best of our New Hampshire and please most.

Misty Blue

If you're looking for a NH artist, I think Peter Ferber would be the man for the job.







...and FLL... To me, the cool thing about the Old Man was that it was natural and not manmade. You complain about waste in Concord and in your local towns but in my opinion we have many more attractions, features, blessings... Whatever you wanna call em to celebrate than a rock formation that fell down.

[Rattlesnake Gal]

John, that's a fantastic idea!!! It seems so obvious now that you've said it.


fatlazyless, do you actually know when you are posting a bad idea or do you just enjoy trying to get a rise out of us?

[jmen24]

Originally Posted by Rattlesnake Gal

fatlazyless, do you actually know when you are posting a bad idea or do you just enjoy trying to get a rise out of us?

My guess is the latter. I believe FLL has our number and just loves to read the reactions to his posts.


On to the symbol topic. My feeling is that the Old Man is gone and that name has been retired. If we put up a new one, at what point does the New Man become an Old Man.

The Mount Washington is a good idea, but so many people in the state cannot relate to it, I happen to like the idea.

This question really has me thinking. There are so many things that come to mind when I think about what this state means to me, that I am having a really difficult time pulling just one that sums it all up. I will have to come back to this one.

[Lakegeezer]

This question is a tough one. By bias to the region leans towards having the lakes region be the symbol, but that is a slap to the other amazing regions in the state. So, my vote would be for Mount Washington. Not the boat, but the tallest mountain in the northeast. Here’s the thinking…. The state has seacoast, lakes and mountains, suggesting an outdoor theme should be the symbol. The old man was a great symbol, given we are called the granite state and all, but it is gone. The idea of the MS Mount Washington is interesting, but a commercial venture may not be the best and again, ignores the rest of the state. From the top of Mount Washington, you can see the lakes region and the seacoast. You can see it from many points in the state. It is made of granite. It comes with a regional “mine is bigger than yours” claim and it won’t fall down or sink.

[alsadad]

Originally Posted by Rattlesnake Guy

Texans drive 10% of the nation's pickups and 27% of the vehicles registered in the state are pickups.

I apologize for veering off topic, but this reminds me of an old joke. A Texas rancher was vacationing in New Hampshire. Out for a drive one day, he sees a local farmer repairing a fence by the side of the road so he stops to chat. "How much land have you got here?" asked the Texan. "Oh, about 100 acres," replied the farmer. "100 acres??" scoffed the Texan, "It takes me all day to drive my pickup truck from one end of my spread to the other." The NH farmer replied, "Yeah, I had a truck like that once, myself."

[fatlazyless]

Is the Statue of Liberty a natural formation? It's obviously a designer artistic recreation of "lady liberty" and sits on a land-filled island, so there's noth'n natural about it, but it's the US's single most well-known iconic symbol.

In 1923, the Franconia Notch State Park was created and purchased with thousands of small donations from New Hampshire school children who wanted to save the notch from the federal government because the area's Old Man, Cannon Cliff, Profile Lake and surrounds were too special to the state to let it be part of the recently created 1922 White Mt National Forest. Building an Old Man look-alike creation and putt'n it back on its' cliff-hanger spot would go a long way to honor the Old Man's history.

Wiring it up with lights and sound would be a good tourist hook. Picture this: slide a sawbuck into the slot, push A-1, and you get 45,000 watts of Aretha sing'n "R-E-S-P-E-C-T is all I want for me!" powering through the Mts Lafayette-Cannon high cliff notch area, a natural sound studio! You all need to be a little creative here, and just lighten up with your old stodgy ideas about the Old Man.

Just like the Statue of Liberty is very well appreciated, a remade Old Man would be widely accepted as long as it looks totally natural and identical to the original. And, sound & lights would be a nice little extra touch.....don't you think!

[SIKSUKR]

Lakegeezer and I think alike. The existing symbol was a pile of rocks. Why not the big rockpile. And it won't be falling down any time soon.

[Argie's Wife]

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

...Picture this: slide a sawbuck into the slot, push A-1, and you get 45,000 watts of Aretha sing'n "R-E-S-P-E-C-T is all I want for me!" powering through the Mts Lafayette-Cannon high cliff notch area, a natural sound studio! You all need to be a little creative here, and just lighten up with your old stodgy ideas about the Old Man.

Just like the Statue of Liberty is very well appreciated, a remade Old Man would be widely accepted as long as it looks totally natural and identical to the original. And, sound & lights would be a nice little extra touch.....don't you think!

...only if you'll dance in a tutu in front of that display....

[Seaplane Pilot]

The rocket scientists in Concord have done it again - read below. When are we going to wake up and get rid of these people?


NH Passes a Localy Imposed
Sales Tax Last Night
Yes, they STILL have not repealed the LLC Income tax, and yet, it gets worse..................

So here we sit at 11:30pm on a Thursday night at the State House, and history is being made. Unfortunately it’s not the kind of history that makes New Hampshire proud or its residents happy. Tonight the State Senate passed our first ever Locally Imposed Sales Tax, targeted solely against restaurants and lodging operations and their patrons. This is a disastrous move that will pit local community against local community, and negatively affect the recreation and enjoyment of our State.

Despite the roar of ordinary working families, pleading to our legislators to be responsible and cut back our bloated, ever expanding budget to match a lower level of income everyone in the state is experiencing, they have again, attacked our pocket books, our businesses and our way of life.

Just as the attempt to create a Tax on the personal incomes of just LLC small business owners, the legislature has now authorized each and every town and city in the State of NH to impose an unlimited new tax rate against every single person who dines out, stays at a hotel or B&B and even rents a car. This new tax, on top of the 12% increase enacted last year to the Rooms and Meals tax presently in place, will allow any city or town, to enact a new, additional tax, with no limit on the percentage rate.

The travel and Tourism industry in New Hampshire is our largest industry. It employs more than 65,000 people. Unfortunately it is also suffering from one of the largest declines as discretionary income has dried up. 53,000 friends and neighbors unemployed and hundreds or thousands under employed. A night out for dinner or a trip to the beach has gone from a great idea, to a luxury most can’t afford. As seen by the constantly under budget, lower than expected tax revenue from the Restaurant and Lodging industry, the tourism industry is seeing the most difficult times in this State’s history.

The last thing in the world our State should be doing is to encourage each local community to establish and implement a town by town unlimited sales tax. What will be next? A town by town gas tax? A town toll booth? Town by town taxes on phone bills, electric bills and home heating oil? How long will it be before we see a local grocery tax?

The definition of insanity is performing the same task repeatedly and expecting a different result. During the past 4 years we have seen an imposition of new, repeated and higher taxes on virtually every facet of our lives. Concurrently revenue of those same services has declined in every single case, where taxes were increased.

Implementation of this new locally generated tax will not only place an uncompetitive financial burden on individual operators separated by town lines, which in some cases will be inches apart, but will make the cost of each and every meal, room and trip to the beach or ski area, uncontrollably more expensive.

You all know that I have tried so hard to not make our LLC Tax issue about any political party, Its about protecting our small business community and every single person in New Hampshire. But, for the sake of our economic future, when is enough enough? Now, more than ever we need to see a wholesale change in the legislative leadership of New Hampshire. It’s time to remove these legislators whose only answer to our State’s challenges is to raise or create taxes. If you are an ordinary working resident or small business owner, I call on each and every one of you to become active, get involved and restore our traditional New Hampshire values of limited Government and low taxes.

Again, I am not trying to make this a partisan political issue and pit one party against another. That being said, I believe those in control of Concord today do not represent or are trying to protect us as small business owners, ordinary working families and taxpayers.

Again, I apologize for the anger and emotion of this email, but I am just nauseous with anger at this.

If anyone can make it, the New Hampshire Lodging and Restaurant Association and other business trade associations are holding a press conference on Monday morning at 10:00am in the lobby of the Legislative Office Building (the building directly behind the State Capitol) to speak out against this damaging legislation. Please make every effort to be there and show your support.

[RailroadJoe]

Right on. From now on I will avoid any town or city that adds more tax dollars to my food. I at one time got coffee for 5 cents, now the tax is more than double for one cup.

Some day they will wise up in the house of ill decisions and realize that stop making laws that require more gov't employees (ie the shore land disturbance) and look to reduce the ones we have now.

Just my nickels worth.

[MAXUM]

Oh this is just the beginning of a state wide sales tax. This isn't even going out on a limb to see what's going to happen here. Some towns tax, others do not. Towns that tax are going to drive business away to towns that don't tax. Towns that tax, well they tax more, get into an even bigger financial hole, sue the state because they feel as though they are loosing business to the "richer" tax free towns. State supreme court rules that the state needs to be the one to set a state wide sales tax to "level the playing field". Thus we end up with a state wide sales tax court ordered and without the finger prints of any politician.

BTW they will expand this to an all out sales tax because it will be considered unconstitutional to limit this tax to just restaurants and hotel

Don't scoff at this, you know darn well it's not that inconceivable.

[RI Swamp Yankee]

Originally Posted by Argie's Wife

...only if you'll dance in a tutu in front of that display....

Now THAT is funny.

[trfour]

Senate Approves Cider As State Drink.

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Terry
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