Paddle Smart ID Sticker

fatlazyless · 04-18-2010, 08:22 PM

Seems like a good idea. Any chance the NH Marine Patrol in Glendale (Gilford) could supply these canoe-kayak, small non-registered boat ID stickers either for free or for a low price like five cents each? Well....ok...maybe ten cents each, but not any more than ten cents each! Free would be ok, too!

Wonder if they stick okay to kayaks made from rotomolded, polypropolene plastic which can be problematic?

Kamper · 04-19-2010, 07:12 AM

You could always use a magic-marker and refesh it periodically. It's harder to remove than a sticker. I see no need for government involvement at all.

fatlazyless · 04-19-2010, 08:27 AM

Yes, that's true, a $1.29 black magic marker could easily be used.

So, why does the Coast Guard chose to promote these stickers. Do they do a better job or get more to use them?

LIforrelaxin · 04-19-2010, 09:01 AM

Whether or not people get the stickers from the coast guard, doesn't matter, but the information on the boat with a black sharpie. I think after reading the article here, all the coast guard is trying to do is help people out. They have created a sticker to mark as an example of information that should be provided, and will also give an owner and easy way to provide said information. If you put that sticker on the inside of the kayak, by the seat there should be any problems as long as you make sure the surface is dry, and clean.

This is one of the better projects started by a govt agency in a while. I also noticed that the article came from Lake Champlain. Which having lived over there, is noted for sudden changes in weather, and often beached, canoes, kayaks, and row boats find there way out onto the lake.

Airwaves · 04-19-2010, 12:14 PM

I know there are some members of the USCG Aux and Power Squadron on this forum. May I suggest that you contact your Marine Dealer Visitor Officer and suggest that they get these pamphlets and distribute them to outlets that sell these types of boats and equipment?

Once it catches on the dealers themselves will probably stay on top of it as a service to their customers.

Meanwhile if anyone wants one I would just drop the CG Public Affairs office a note or give them a call and ask for them.

Belmont Resident · 04-19-2010, 04:56 PM

Dealers around the lake sell boats. I’ve not met one that has the time to promote things like this.
Take for instance the boater safety card that we are all required to have with us while driving our boat.
How many are asked to provide this when you register your boat? I've never been.
You should not be able to register your boat without providing them with your card, it is required to boat on NH waterways.

Airwaves · 04-19-2010, 08:02 PM

Orginally posted by Belmont Resident

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Dealers around the lake sell boats. I’ve not met one that has the time to promote things like this.
Take for instance the boater safety card that we are all required to have with us while driving our boat.
How many are asked to provide this when you register your boat? I've never been.
You should not be able to register your boat without providing them with your card, it is required to boat on NH waterways.

My mistake then.

chipj29 · 04-20-2010, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Belmont Resident

Dealers around the lake sell boats. I’ve not met one that has the time to promote things like this.
Take for instance the boater safety card that we are all required to have with us while driving our boat.
How many are asked to provide this when you register your boat? I've never been.
You should not be able to register your boat without providing them with your card, it is required to boat on NH waterways.

You don't have to have a certificate to own a boat, and you don't have to have a certificate to register a boat either. The only requirement is that the driver of the boat (who is not always the boat owner) have a certificate. That is why they don't ask.

topwater · 04-20-2010, 07:15 AM

All canoes and kayaks should be REQUIRED to have a sticker on there bows!! If they are on the NH public waters, they should pay just like and other watercraft. No magic marker, actuall pay cash to the State of New Hampshire! What makes canoe owners or kayak owners any different then speed boat owners? Other then they cry alot more. Pony up boys and girls, it will be coming to a yard in your neighborhood soon.

Safety comes with A COST. You yell and scream because you don't feel safe on the waters of NH because of the speed boats, stop crying and kick in some cash for your canoes and kayaks, then there MIGHT be enough to hire additional MP.
Damn I feel good!

sunset on the dock · 04-20-2010, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by topwater

All canoes and kayaks should be REQUIRED to have a sticker on there bows!! If they are on the NH public waters, they should pay just like and other watercraft. No magic marker, actuall pay cash to the State of New Hampshire! What makes canoe owners or kayak owners any different then speed boat owners? Other then they cry alot more. Pony up boys and girls, it will be coming to a yard in your neighborhood soon.

Safety comes with A COST. You yell and scream because you don't feel safe on the waters of NH because of the speed boats, stop crying and kick in some cash for your canoes and kayaks, then there MIGHT be enough to hire additional MP.
Damn I feel good!

Sounds like someone got up on the wrong side of the SL.

jmen24 · 04-20-2010, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by topwater

All canoes and kayaks should be REQUIRED to have a sticker on there bows!! If they are on the NH public waters, they should pay just like and other watercraft. No magic marker, actuall pay cash to the State of New Hampshire! What makes canoe owners or kayak owners any different then speed boat owners? Other then they cry alot more. Pony up boys and girls, it will be coming to a yard in your neighborhood soon.

Safety comes with A COST. You yell and scream because you don't feel safe on the waters of NH because of the speed boats, stop crying and kick in some cash for your canoes and kayaks, then there MIGHT be enough to hire additional MP.
Damn I feel good!

Broad brush, we are not all like that. I do not know personally a paddler that whines about not being safe on a large lake. Most understand that with that adventure comes a price and they accept that risk on their own. Most stick to themselves.

Quite a few do whine about these things it seems though, so I understand where you are coming from. I don't typically hang with the "hippy, I am going to make life better for you and me" types, so maybe that is why I don't hear the whining.

I have said it before that I would have no issue with paying for a sticker for my boat, as long as every dollar goes to fish and game and not marine patrol.
Something would need to be written in to protect commercial operations such as guiding and rentals, it would not be fair to ask a outfitter to pay say $10 for 20 or 30 boats, flat $100 commercial fee would be fine.

I buy a hunting license because I choose to participate in that sport.
I buy a white mountain access sticker because I choose to hike in that area.
I would buy a canoe "reg" decal because I choose to own and use one of those boats.

All choices, that I can stop at any moment.

topwater · 04-20-2010, 08:26 AM

Point taken Jmen, however on the other side of the coin is the reason why the SPEED LIMIT was en-acted. SAFETY, was the outcry of the canoers and kayakers, how they did not feel safe on NH waters anymore. You may check any thread on here about speed limits/safety and that is always brought up.
Thats where I am coming from! Maybe NH can create a bill to go to Johnny desk, " No Pay -- No Paddle " Just think how much more money that could generate for the state of NH.

I believe Johnny would love that! I'll buy the first one, but I don't drink while on the water.

But thats another whole story in its self. (Safety Story)

jmen24 · 04-20-2010, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by topwater

Point taken Jmen, however on the other side of the coin is the reason why the SPEED LIMIT was en-acted. SAFETY, was the outcry of the canoers and kayakers, how they did not feel safe on NH waters anymore. You may check any thread on here about speed limits/safety and that is always brought up.
Thats where I am coming from! Maybe NH can create a bill to go to Johnny desk, " No Pay -- No Paddle " Just think how much more money that could generate for the state of NH.

I believe Johnny would love that! I'll buy the first one, but I don't drink while on the water.

But thats another whole story in its self. (Safety Story)

Oh, I know how and why the SL was passed, you can read back in the threads and see a very similar comment from me regarding the whiners. I think we are on the same page, just wanted you to know that when you see us at the launches, we are not all evil. You won't see me at the lake with my canoe though, you'll have to venture further from the crowds.

Island Life · 04-20-2010, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Kamper

You could always use a magic-marker and refesh it periodically. It's harder to remove than a sticker. I see no need for government involvement at all.

I use this method. In very large print on the bottom of my kayaks I write my name, cell phone number and address of where I stay on the lake. I write it in sharpie and refresh every year.

ApS · 04-20-2010, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Island Life

I use this method. In very large print on the bottom of my kayaks I write my name, cell phone number and address of where I stay on the lake. I write it in sharpie and refresh every year.

That's a really good idea

and another good way to protect one's boat from theft.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sunset on the dock

Sounds like someone got up on the wrong side of the SL.

Maybe the one who started:

Quote:

We Can't See Kayaks

A decal isn't going to improve that.

Grady223 · 04-20-2010, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by fatlazyless

Seems like a good idea. Any chance the NH Marine Patrol in Glendale (Gilford) could supply these canoe-kayak, small non-registered boat ID stickers either for free or for a low price like five cents each? Well....ok...maybe ten cents each, but not any more than ten cents each! Free would be ok, too!

Wonder if they stick okay to kayaks made from rotomolded, polypropolene plastic which can be problematic?

I have a 17 foot rotomolded polypropolene Triumph boat. Tags stick fine to it.

ApS · 04-21-2010, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Grady223

I have a 17 foot rotomolded polypropolene Triumph boat. Tags stick fine to it.

C'mon...what "tags" would those be?

Duct tape won't stick to them for very long—even the manufacturer's decals will fall off!

28pitt

04-18-2010, 08:22 PM	#1
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,761 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 300 Thanked 1,014 Times in 739 Posts	Seems like a good idea. Any chance the NH Marine Patrol in Glendale (Gilford) could supply these canoe-kayak, small non-registered boat ID stickers either for free or for a low price like five cents each? Well....ok...maybe ten cents each, but not any more than ten cents each! Free would be ok, too! Wonder if they stick okay to kayaks made from rotomolded, polypropolene plastic which can be problematic? __________________ ... down and out, liv'n that Walmart side of the lake!

04-19-2010, 08:27 AM	#3
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,761 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 300 Thanked 1,014 Times in 739 Posts	Yes, that's true, a $1.29 black magic marker could easily be used. So, why does the Coast Guard chose to promote these stickers. Do they do a better job or get more to use them? __________________ ... down and out, liv'n that Walmart side of the lake!

04-19-2010, 09:01 AM	#4
LIforrelaxin Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Texas, Lake Ray Hubbard and NH, Long Island Winnipesaukee Posts: 2,875 Thanks: 1,037 Thanked 892 Times in 524 Posts	Whether or not people get the stickers from the coast guard, doesn't matter, but the information on the boat with a black sharpie. I think after reading the article here, all the coast guard is trying to do is help people out. They have created a sticker to mark as an example of information that should be provided, and will also give an owner and easy way to provide said information. If you put that sticker on the inside of the kayak, by the seat there should be any problems as long as you make sure the surface is dry, and clean. This is one of the better projects started by a govt agency in a while. I also noticed that the article came from Lake Champlain. Which having lived over there, is noted for sudden changes in weather, and often beached, canoes, kayaks, and row boats find there way out onto the lake. __________________ Life is about how much time you can spend relaxing... I do it on an island that isn't really an island.....

04-19-2010, 12:14 PM	#5
Airwaves Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: I'm right here! Posts: 1,153 Thanks: 9 Thanked 102 Times in 37 Posts	The easiest way to get the sticker I know there are some members of the USCG Aux and Power Squadron on this forum. May I suggest that you contact your Marine Dealer Visitor Officer and suggest that they get these pamphlets and distribute them to outlets that sell these types of boats and equipment? Once it catches on the dealers themselves will probably stay on top of it as a service to their customers. Meanwhile if anyone wants one I would just drop the CG Public Affairs office a note or give them a call and ask for them.

04-19-2010, 04:56 PM	#6
Belmont Resident Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Belmont NH but prefer Jackman Maine Posts: 1,857 Thanks: 491 Thanked 410 Times in 251 Posts	most dealers are not interrested Dealers around the lake sell boats. I’ve not met one that has the time to promote things like this. Take for instance the boater safety card that we are all required to have with us while driving our boat. How many are asked to provide this when you register your boat? I've never been. You should not be able to register your boat without providing them with your card, it is required to boat on NH waterways.

04-19-2010, 07:12 AM	#2
Kamper Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Thornton's Ferry Posts: 1,307 Thanks: 67 Thanked 172 Times in 128 Posts	You could always use a magic-marker and refesh it periodically. It's harder to remove than a sticker. I see no need for government involvement at all.

04-20-2010, 07:15 AM	#9
topwater Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 302 Thanks: 85 Thanked 116 Times in 48 Posts	All canoes and kayaks should be REQUIRED to have a sticker on there bows!! If they are on the NH public waters, they should pay just like and other watercraft. No magic marker, actuall pay cash to the State of New Hampshire! What makes canoe owners or kayak owners any different then speed boat owners? Other then they cry alot more. Pony up boys and girls, it will be coming to a yard in your neighborhood soon. Safety comes with A COST. You yell and scream because you don't feel safe on the waters of NH because of the speed boats, stop crying and kick in some cash for your canoes and kayaks, then there MIGHT be enough to hire additional MP. Damn I feel good!

04-20-2010, 08:26 AM	#12
topwater Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 302 Thanks: 85 Thanked 116 Times in 48 Posts	Point taken Jmen, however on the other side of the coin is the reason why the SPEED LIMIT was en-acted. SAFETY, was the outcry of the canoers and kayakers, how they did not feel safe on NH waters anymore. You may check any thread on here about speed limits/safety and that is always brought up. Thats where I am coming from! Maybe NH can create a bill to go to Johnny desk, " No Pay -- No Paddle " Just think how much more money that could generate for the state of NH. I believe Johnny would love that! I'll buy the first one, but I don't drink while on the water. But thats another whole story in its self. (Safety Story)