One way or the other

[BroadHopper]

Originally Posted by elchase

That's why we don't let prisoners vote.

Wrong again buddy! Prisoners are allowed to vote by sending in an absentee ballot to their home town. Why do you make up all these lies....

[KonaChick]

I don't understand how complaining or trying to change a law makes it "effective". That does not compute....

[sunset on the dock]

Originally Posted by BroadHopper

Wrong again buddy! Prisoners are allowed to vote by sending in an absentee ballot to their home town. Why do you make up all these lies....

I didn't think prisoners could vote either. Maybe there are some states with some exceptions but here is some info from Michigan. I would hardly describe el's comment as "making up lies". How do you know so much about prisoners voting rights?

Here's the story from Michigan:


Can someone convicted of a felony register and vote? Can a person confined in jail or prison register and vote?
MCL 168.492a reads: "A person confined in a jail, who is otherwise a qualified elector, prior to trial or sentence may, upon request, register under section 504. The person shall be deemed a resident of the city, township, and address at which he resided before confinement. A person while confined in a jail after being convicted and sentenced shall not be eligible to register."

MCL 168.758b reads: "A person who, in a court of this or another state or in a federal court, has been legally convicted and sentenced for a crime for which the penalty imposed is confinement in jail or prison shall not vote, offer to vote, attempt to vote, or be permitted to vote at an election while confined."

Given the above restrictions, a Michigan resident confined in jail or prison that is awaiting arraignment or trial is eligible to register and vote. A Michigan resident who is serving a sentence in jail or prison after conviction cannot register or vote during his or her period of confinement. After a Michigan resident who is serving a sentence in jail or prison is released, he or she is free to participate in elections without restriction.



SHAME ON YOU EL...YOU SHOULD HAVE QUALIFIED YOUR COMMENT. PRISONERS NOT YET CONVICTED CAN VOTE ABSENTEE. Oh brother. Hey el, didn't one of your posts say something to the effect that if you said August occurred in summer then people on this forum would find a way to disagree with you?

[Resident 2B]

Originally Posted by sunset on the dock

I didn't think prisoners could vote either. Maybe there are some states with some exceptions but here is some info from Michigan. I would hardly describe el's comment as "making up lies". How do you know so much about prisoners voting rights?

Here's the story from Michigan:


Can someone convicted of a felony register and vote? Can a person confined in jail or prison register and vote?
MCL 168.492a reads: "A person confined in a jail, who is otherwise a qualified elector, prior to trial or sentence may, upon request, register under section 504. The person shall be deemed a resident of the city, township, and address at which he resided before confinement. A person while confined in a jail after being convicted and sentenced shall not be eligible to register."

MCL 168.758b reads: "A person who, in a court of this or another state or in a federal court, has been legally convicted and sentenced for a crime for which the penalty imposed is confinement in jail or prison shall not vote, offer to vote, attempt to vote, or be permitted to vote at an election while confined."

Given the above restrictions, a Michigan resident confined in jail or prison that is awaiting arraignment or trial is eligible to register and vote. A Michigan resident who is serving a sentence in jail or prison after conviction cannot register or vote during his or her period of confinement. After a Michigan resident who is serving a sentence in jail or prison is released, he or she is free to participate in elections without restriction.



SHAME ON YOU EL...YOU SHOULD HAVE QUALIFIED YOUR COMMENT. PRISONERS NOT YET CONVICTED CAN VOTE ABSENTEE. Oh brother. Hey el, didn't one of your posts say something to the effect that if you said August occurred in summer then people on this forum would find a way to disagree with you?

What do Michigan laws have to do with New Hampshire or Lake Winnipesaukee and why is this post posted on the Lake Winnipesaukee web site?

I thought this site was for things that pertain to Lake Winnipesaukee and the New Hampshire lakes region. If there is a site for Lake Michigan, LakeMichigan.com, perhaps you can post this stuff there. It does not belong here. Please read the rules.

R2B

[sunset on the dock]

Originally Posted by Resident 2B

What do Michigan laws have to do with New Hampshire or Lake Winnipesaukee and why is this post posted on the Lake Winnipesaukee web site?

I thought this site was for things that pertain to Lake Winnipesaukee and the New Hampshire lakes region. If there is a site for Lake Michigan, LakeMichigan.com, perhaps you can post this stuff there. It does not belong here. Please read the rules.

R2B

How foolish of me...how could anything happening beyond our great state's borders have any relevance to the Granite State. My bad. I promise never again to bring up anything having to do with any state other than NH, especially New York (Lake George) and Maine (Long Lake, I have "NO PATIENCE" for that lake)!

[Rinkerfam]

elchase, did you pay attention to the content of my post? I do not operate a GFBL. My boat barely exceeds the 45mph daytime limit. I have three young children(9,6 &2). I have no hidden agenda here regarding GFBL's. My stand on the speed limit debate from day one has been that stronger (any actually) enforcement of the 150' rule and the right of way rules would make for a safer lake. Adding another law to the books when perfectly serviceable laws are left largely unenforced makes no sense to me. Unnecessary legislation is as wasteful as unnecessary litigation as far as I'm concerned.

[trfour]

Originally Posted by Rinkerfam

elchase, did you pay attention to the content of my post? I do not operate a GFBL. My boat barely exceeds the 45mph daytime limit. I have three young children(9,6 &2). I have no hidden agenda here regarding GFBL's. My stand on the speed limit debate from day one has been that stronger (any actually) enforcement of the 150' rule and the right of way rules would make for a safer lake. Adding another law to the books when perfectly serviceable laws are left largely unenforced makes no sense to me. Unnecessary legislation is as wasteful as unnecessary litigation as far as I'm concerned.

Absolutely correct, Rinkerfam! Unfortunately getting everyone on the same page is the difficult part.... I guess common sense is allocated instead of nourished, and some just don't have a clue.

[VitaBene]

Originally Posted by Rinkerfam

elchase, did you pay attention to the content of my post? I do not operate a GFBL. My boat barely exceeds the 45mph daytime limit. I have three young children(9,6 &2). I have no hidden agenda here regarding GFBL's. My stand on the speed limit debate from day one has been that stronger (any actually) enforcement of the 150' rule and the right of way rules would make for a safer lake. Adding another law to the books when perfectly serviceable laws are left largely unenforced makes no sense to me. Unnecessary legislation is as wasteful as unnecessary litigation as far as I'm concerned.

Rinker,

That is what most of us have been saying to El all along but for some reason it is much easier for argument's sake to assume everyone who opposes a SL does so because we want to go faster than 45 (or 50 because the MP would have to give you that for wiggle room) instead of better enforcing the current laws you note.

[BroadHopper]

Originally Posted by VitaBene

Rinker,

That is what most of us have been saying to El all along but for some reason it is much easier for argument's sake to assume everyone who opposes a SL does so because we want to go faster than 45 (or 50 because the MP would have to give you that for wiggle room) instead of better enforcing the current laws you note.

I agree with the majority of you. Just because I have a Formula, the SL proponents think it is a GFBL. The silent thunder exhaust is one of the quietest in the industry. I only have a small block in a big heavy boat. I can just baely go fast enough to enjoy my sport of bare foot skiing.

It is well known that the next target is large cruisers. The proponents have been talking about that during the public hearings.

The biggest problem is the boneheads. Instead of addressing the problem they are compounding it with more laws. The SL law is expensive. Laser guns had to be bought and MPO's have to be extensively trained. Along with the budget cut, I can see why there is less patrolling on our waters. It is Bonehead territory! I don't feel safe at all this year. Labor day weekend is a disaster waiting to happen. I'm surprised that it was safe.

The SL law has merit. The reasonable and prudent clause as well as attaching the offense to the driver's license are reasonable additions.

[OCDACTIVE]

Hey Vita,

Totally off topic, but just wondering what is the:

GSBQ Bowrider Club ?

[VtSteve]

Originally Posted by OCDACTIVE

Hey Vita,

Totally off topic, but just wondering what is the:

GSBQ Bowrider Club ?

Let me guess.


GO SLOW BE QUIET

[VitaBene]

Originally Posted by VtSteve

Let me guess.


GO SLOW BE QUIET

Steve nailed it! There is no real club but I thought it would help show that while there are some fast boats on the forum, the majority are not so fast family bowriders. Though I guess in the interest of full disclosure, I will have to admit that I hit my all time high of 47 Saturday.

[OCDACTIVE]

Originally Posted by VitaBene

Steve nailed it! There is no real club but I thought it would help show that while there are some fast boats on the forum, the majority are not so fast family bowriders. Though I guess in the interest of full disclosure, I will have to admit that I hit my all time high of 47 Saturday.

I thought so as well... but I didn't want to speculate as to the meaning and thought it best to ask first...

47??? did you have your radar detector with you?

I can see the headlines now "VITA CAUSES HORRORS ON THE BIG LAKE"

LMAO!

Glad you are boating.. I was up to my arms in oil and grease this weekend... Pulled the supercharger off and cleaned the entire engine compartment.. Getting her ready for her long tow to Virgina....

Still was a beautiful day yesterday to be working on the boat.. Got myself a few Landshark lagers and went to town....

[BroadHopper]

I hit 50 mph drafting ELChase's sailboat out on the Broads yesterday! LOL!

'BIG LAKE HORROR! GFBL CHASES SAILBOAT!' - TaDaSun