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07-25-2023, 07:16 PM | #1 |
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Stop Sign or Rolling Stop
Here in New Hampshire I read that when a motor vehicle approches a stop sign the vehicle must come to a complete stop. At the white line or at/before the stop sign.
Are the laws different in Massachusetts, Connecticut, New Jersey, New York different? Are rolling stops the laws in these states? The car slows down but keeps rolling/moving right through a stop sign. Are stop sign laws different in those states? |
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07-25-2023, 08:05 PM | #3 |
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You can get a ticket in any State for a rolling stop (assuming you don't make a complete full stop).
Whether you stop at the stop sign or the white line may or may not be an issue, but in any event you must have a complete and full stop. Technically, you can receive a ticket if you do a rolling stop, and likely guaranteed if you do a rolling stop beyond the stop sign or the white line. A full stop beyond the stop sign or white line may not call attention to your vehicle. |
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Got one in California.
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07-25-2023, 09:08 PM | #5 |
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07-26-2023, 04:39 AM | #6 |
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But Officer, what I did was a Boston rolling stop, you understand!
Well now .......... you are now ..... here in New Hampshire! ..... (hands driver a paper copy of either the warning or the violation) ....... and welcome to New Hampshire! ....
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07-26-2023, 10:37 AM | #7 |
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Same in Mass. and cops will ticket rolling through, but I think most let it go unless it's dangerous.
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Local rules are very important for safety.
In Miami, a Stop sign means “speed up and proceed to beat the other guy, especially if you don’t see the other guy.” Similarly, A red light means “ slow down as you proceed through the intersection.” We’re the “Drive Free and Die” state. Relevant to the Lakes Region as some traffic rules are exportable.
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Wow! Must have been a long time ago. On the TV news there are no more police in San Francisco. I don't get to CA much anymore, but everybody I know from there refers to rolling as a "California Stop". That term certainly has carried to the east coast.
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In MA, Stop means Stop, (or at least it did)...
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back in the old days...
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Interesting fact; When traffic lights first came out all there was on the light were yellow and green lights -- no such thing as a yellow light. In 1923 a Police Officer had the idea that a yellow light between the red and the green might make sense, got the patent, and eventually sold it to General Electric, and hence we have the traffic lights we see today (red, yellow + green). Interesting fact: NYC was loaded with the old fashioned traffic lights that contained only red and green. Some of these lights were still in use until the late 1960's or early 1970's and I remembered them as a youngster. It is interesting to look at movies actually filmed on site in New York City in the 1950's and 1960's and you will see many of these old red and green traffic signals still in existence back then. Today, the red and green lights no longer exist anywhere, and every light everywhere contains a red, yellow and green. Please obey the traffic lights and drive carefully. |
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Stopping on the line
Being a Boston driver, many times I have had the car in front of me come to that almost-complete stop a full car length ahead of the line or sign. So, as they stop, I am actually coming to my complete stop at the proper line. We both start speeding up again at the same time (not going out of turn or cutting anyone off, just us going through.) I feel weirdly guilty as though I should stop longer or something...though, if the other guy hadn't been there, I would be doing things exactly right and lawfully.
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Chapter 89 Section 9 Mass General Laws. "Except when directed to proceed by a police officer, every driver of a vehicle approaching a stop sign or a flashing red signal indication shall stop at a clearly marked stop line, but if none, before entering the crosswalk on the near side of the intersection" NH 265:31 II. Except when directed to proceed by a police officer or traffic control signal, every driver of a vehicle approaching a stop intersection indicated by a stop sign shall stop before entering the crosswalk on the near side of the intersection or, in the event there is no crosswalk, shall stop at a clearly marked stop line, but if none, then at a point nearest the intersecting roadway where the driver has a view of approaching traffic on the intersecting roadway before entering the intersection Last edited by TiltonBB; 07-28-2023 at 08:38 AM. |
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I had a friend from Mass who got a ticket in NH for continuing on through which you can't do in NH. She argued that she could do that in Mass and got off. I should add that was a long time ago.
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You cannot do it legally in either state.
Every vehicle must stop at the stop line. Stopping behind another vehicle does not satisfy the law. Stopping then doesn't count. A lot of police officers will look the other way, or let someone off with a warning, but the law is that every vehicle must stop at the stop line. |
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Here's a strange MA traffic law currently in effect for the last 35 years or so:
If you are driving on a one way street, and you come to another one way street which runs to the left, you are allowed to take a left turn after a full stop at a red traffic signal (and looking to your right to be sure no one is approaching). Basically, a legal left turn on red if the correct circumstances exist. Most folks have never heard of it and there are very few intersections where this would actually ever be applicable. |
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The only time I ever really "stop" at a stop sign is when I'm in more densely populated areas. Most of the time, I roll through.
It is not legal, though, as I was told once by a police officer who pulled me over at a notorious rolling stop sign in town. We no longer really live in a land with laws, though, but moreso guidelines. Ain't nobody driving 55/65 on the highway anymore! Sent from my SM-S911U using Tapatalk |
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Stop Sign or Rolling Stop
It seems to me that the answer to this question is blatantly obvious within the question - STOP means stop, not moving, period.
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Simple answer: STOP = Spin Tires On Pavement.
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Rolling stop vs Stop
I got pulled over either by New Durham or Alton police once heading west on Rte 11. There was an emergency vehicle with flashing lights and siren heading east. (Ambulance). I pulled over and slowly drove on the shoulder. Shortly I was pulled over and warned that there should be a complete stop when an emergency vehicle passed. First I heard of this on decades of driving.
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New Hampshire 265:33 Driving of Vehicles on Approach of Authorized Emergency Vehicles. – Upon the immediate approach of an authorized emergency vehicle making use of audible or visual signals or of a police vehicle properly and lawfully making use of an audible or visual signal, the driver of every other vehicle shall yield the right of way and shall immediately drive to a position parallel to, and as close as possible to, the right-hand edge or curb of the roadway clear of any intersection and shall stop and remain in such position until the authorized emergency vehicle has passed, except when otherwise directed by a police officer. |
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