Panama Bill's Bar-b-que (Laconia)

Overlake97 · 09-01-2008, 07:24 PM

Has anyone tried Panama Bill's Seafood and Bar-B-que in Laconia? I've been there 3 times so far (all take out; it's not really a sit-down place), and have been impressed each time. On my first and second visits I ordered the pulled pork sandwich, which was about $7. The sandwich was great: Excellent pork and barbeque sauce on a nice, chewey sesame roll. For the price, that would have been enough, but there was also a large portion of fresh hand-cut french fries and a small cup of cole slaw. So good I had to get it again on my second visit. On my third visit I went for the half rack of ribs (rather than quarter or full) which came with barbequed beans, those great fries, cole slaw and corn bread (I think). The rib rack was large (for a half), as were the ribs; four filled me up so I had three more for the next day (which did not go to waste!). Again, everything was excellent. I could have used a larger portion of beans, but everything else was fine, including the nice size portion of barbeque sauce that came on the side. If you like barbeque/ribs, you really have to give Panama Bill's a try. He occupies the building left vacant by Kassidy's internation Pizza, near the busy corner in Laconia.

Boston Fireguy · 09-03-2008, 07:14 AM

Where in Laconia? First I've heard of it.....

angela4design · 09-03-2008, 08:02 AM

It's in "Normandin Square", aka BUSY CORNER. It was a doughnut shop ages ago, then Kassidy's Pizza.

I plan to try it... I think he used to be the 'BBQ master' when B-Mae's had a BBQ restaurant several years ago (I forget the name). I remember great food! And, I think Panama Bill delivers! I see his car around with the light on top.

Scott · 09-05-2008, 09:58 AM

I had a pulled pork sandwich from them and was very pleased. It was the best I've had around here.

Argie's Wife · 09-07-2008, 12:59 PM

I'm glad Argie doesn't read this forum because he'd have a fit if he knew what I had for lunch today and didn't get for him!

The pulled pork bbq sandwich with fries, slaw, and a side of bbq sauce for $5 is more than a meal. I got it "to go" and am pleasantly suprised at what was in the bag!

First off, not only do you get everything in a nice styro clamshell to keep it hot, but you also get a little bundle of plasticwear, wet-nap, napkin, salt & pepper and a toothpick.

The food was hot and made fresh to order - no fries under a heat lamp or pre-wrapped sandwiches.

The portions were beyond good. The pork sandwich is chewy and not greasy at all. There's bbq sauce in the sandwich, but it's cooked in and not drippy at all. There's a side of bbq sauce to dip your sandwich in if you want more zing. The fries appear to be hand cut - if not, they're still good and hot. The meat is honestly smoked and has a reddish/pink tint to it - it's not just overcooked pork in a slowcooker, like I had anticipated. It has a smoky taste that goes well with the sauce.

Now... about that bbq sauce...

Magic in a bowl. I'm a lucky woman because I've had the best bbq on earth - Dreamland BBQ in Tuscaloosa, AL. Ask anyone who's lived in AL and they'll tell you; Dreamland is the type of place where you get your meat served to you wrapped up in newspapers and the price is low but it's so good that the owner is a millionaire (I'm not making this up!). The bbq sauce is sweet and turns a little warm - almost hot - later on but sticks to the meat like it should.... makes you want to dip your fries in it.

Well, I think Panama Bill is channeling Dreamland. There's no higher compliment than that!

bbq1 · 10-07-2008, 05:01 PM

this place is alsome can not belived that in laconia nh exsits the best dang q ( for all you tender foots best dang bbq)the pork is so tender the brisket to die for melts right in you mouth not in your hand ha! ha! m&m joke!

if you haven't tried this hole in the wall you don't know what your missing check out there menu at www.panamabills.net or www.bestdangq.com

TiltonBB · 10-08-2008, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by bbq1

this place is alsome can not belived that in laconia nh exsits the best dang q ( for all you tender foots best dang bbq)the pork is so tender the brisket to die for melts right in you mouth not in your hand ha! ha! m&m joke!

if you haven't tried this hole in the wall you don't know what your missing check out there menu at www.panamabills.net or www.bestdangq.com

First post (all in caps) by bbq1, who joined the forum September 2008, hyping the place and heaping praise.

Just a guess but, me thinks that the owner may be promoting his own interest.

ironhorsetim · 10-08-2008, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TiltonBB

First post (all in caps) by bbq1, who joined the forum September 2008, hyping the place and heaping praise.

Just a guess but, me thinks that the owner may be promoting his own interest.

Heaven know's it wouldn't be the first time someone's done that here

Bigstan · 10-08-2008, 08:48 AM

Well, it may be blatant self promotion......but after 1 try I will testify that it is as
'ALSOME' as he claims.

sa meredith · 10-08-2008, 12:29 PM

I'm going to be over that way on Friday or Saturday this week, and plan on giving it a try. Seems like it might be a good lunch spot.
And maybe I, too, will "belived" how "alsome" it is.

wifi · 10-08-2008, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigstan

Well, it may be blatant self promotion......but after 1 try I will testify that it is as
'ALSOME' as he claims.

If nothing else, it will drive the customer count up a bit, as people will now want to 'try it out'...

Waterbaby · 10-08-2008, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TiltonBB

First post (all in caps) by bbq1, who joined the forum September 2008, hyping the place and heaping praise.

Just a guess but, me thinks that the owner may be promoting his own interest.

First, may I say that the first post by bbq1 isn't all in caps -- unless that poster edited the post to change it all to lower case.

Second, there were five posts before the one bbq1 made, all heaping praise on the place..........

Third, what does it matter that the poster only joined in September 2008 and is (daring to) post in October of 2008? Does that make the review, so to speak, any less credible?

Sorry for the rant, but really, I think some of these issues have been well-covered in the recent past, especially the ones about new posters coming onto Winni.com and not being "credible". I'm all done now.

TiltonBB · 10-08-2008, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Waterbaby

First, may I say that the first post by bbq1 isn't all in caps -- unless that poster edited the post to change it all to lower case.

Second, there were five posts before the one bbq1 made, all heaping praise on the place..........

Third, what does it matter that the poster only joined in September 2008 and is (daring to) post in October of 2008? Does that make the review, so to speak, any less credible?

Sorry for the rant, but really, I think some of these issues have been well-covered in the recent past, especially the ones about new posters coming onto Winni.com and not being "credible". I'm all done now.

First: It was all caps and has since been changed.

Second: There was not a question of whether the place was good or not, that was not the point. The people that posted before had credibility and their opinion did not seem to come from a biased point of view.

Third: Would you think that the review was less credible if it was the owner pumping up his own establishment?

I thought that my observation was worth pointing out, sorry if you didn't!

ILoveWinnipesaukee · 10-09-2008, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by TiltonBB

First: It was all caps and has since been changed.

Second: There was not a question of whether the place was good or not, that was not the point. The people that posted before had credibility and their opinion did not seem to come from a biased point of view.

Third: Would you think that the review was less credible if it was the owner pumping up his own establishment?

I thought that my observation was worth pointing out, sorry if you didn't!

Seems some members of this forum feel if you are a newcomer you should sit quietly by and let them post without giving your opinion. I for one new person may just go elsewhere with this type of attitude.

Who cares if the poster is the owner doing advertising, a new member of the forum or an honest Joe going to a restaurant. Oh, maybe only members that agree with the above are accepted.

Happy Gourmand · 10-09-2008, 07:01 AM

Deja-vu all over again!!

SIKSUKR · 10-09-2008, 09:44 AM

If you people can't see the difference between a new member giving a review and a new member/owner of a restaurant coming here and telling everyone how good his place is like he's just another customer then what standards do you use?

dpg · 10-09-2008, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ILoveWinnipesaukee

Seems some members of this forum feel if you are a newcomer you should sit quietly by and let them post without giving your opinion. I for one new person may just go elsewhere with this type of attitude.

Good-bye........

Rose · 10-09-2008, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by SIKSUKR

If you people can't see the difference between a new member giving a review and a new member/owner of a restaurant coming here and telling everyone how good his place is like he's just another customer then what standards do you use?

My standard is that I don't publicly assume that someone is the owner of the place in question and call them out when I don't have solid evidence of that. Guess I like to think the best until proven otherwise, so I'll take it as the review of a satisfied customer.

sa meredith · 10-09-2008, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TiltonBB

First post (all in caps) by bbq1, who joined the forum September 2008, hyping the place and heaping praise.

Just a guess but, me thinks that the owner may be promoting his own interest.

Folks...this really just seems like an "off the cuff" light hearted comment, meaning no real harm. Nothing like some of the venom spewed forth this past summer on some of the restaurant threads.

The post in question was a bit strange...all caps (it was, anyway), choppy sentences, and it spoke of "ALSOME BBQ". A bit "off the beaten path", no?

My question would be...do they have any half tables there? I am going to stop in tomorrow, and will be alone, and would like to face a wall.

Waterbaby · 10-09-2008, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TiltonBB

First: It was all caps and has since been changed.

Second: There was not a question of whether the place was good or not, that was not the point. The people that posted before had credibility and their opinion did not seem to come from a biased point of view.

Third: Would you think that the review was less credible if it was the owner pumping up his own establishment?

I thought that my observation was worth pointing out, sorry if you didn't!

I said perhaps the post was changed, and it was. Thank you. Re: third -- actually, I would think the post had zero credibility if it were made by the owner -- especially since there was no mention in the post that he/she owns the place.

I never said your observation wasn't worth pointing out and I'm very sorry if you felt that was what I was intimating. I was just wondering why it would matter that said poster just joined and made his/her first post and because of that lacked credibility or was assumed to be the owner. I guess I can understand your comment now that I've read your reply and thought about it, as you seem to have felt the post was coming from a biased point of view, assuming this was the owner of the place. I myself was just reading the post as from another fan of the place.

At any rate, I'm offering the white flag -- truce? Thanks.

Waterbaby · 10-09-2008, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SIKSUKR

If you people can't see the difference between a new member giving a review and a new member/owner of a restaurant coming here and telling everyone how good his place is like he's just another customer then what standards do you use?

Okay, I can definitely see the difference. BUT, how do we know for sure when it's "a new member/owner of a restaurant coming here and telling everyone how good his place is like he's just another customer" or "a new member giving a review"?

If I suspected the person was the restaurant owner like TiltonBB did in this instance, then I probably wouldn't give the post any credibility. Do we just assume a person making his/her first post on a particular thread, saying how great the business being talked about is, is the owner of said business? Or do we just assume it's a new poster who loves the business? Me, I prefer to give the benefit of the doubt and assume the latter.

Waterbaby · 10-09-2008, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by sa meredith

Folks...this really just seems like an "off the cuff" light hearted comment, meaning no real harm. Nothing like some of the venom spewed forth this past summer on some of the restaurant threads.

The post in question was a bit strange...all caps (it was, anyway), choppy sentences, and it spoke of "ALSOME BBQ". A bit "off the beaten path", no?

My question would be...do they have any half tables there? I am going to stop in tomorrow, and will be alone, and would like to face a wall.

You must wear a name tag so that they may be sure to accomodate you, lol. Let us know how the view is!

Seriously, can't wait to hear your review -- you always seem very fair and impartial, IMO.

Argie's Wife · 10-10-2008, 08:07 AM

Maybe I'm not the brightest bulb on the tree, but it's not a stretch to say that "bbq1" is most likely the owner of the place, ya think?

Welcome bbq1! Glad you joined us, Bill!

Maybe he hasn't had much experience with forums or has netiquette (internet manners - i.e. not writing in all caps which is the same as shouting. We all had to learn at some point, right?) But if you take the time to talk with Bill you'll learn the guy is really genuine and just wants to make a good product that people will buy. That's why he's in business. A little self-promotion can be good at times and I don't see it as being inappropriate on a thread discussing his business. If there was a thread about my line of work going on here or my business, I'd probably chime in - as would anyone.

Honestly, I don't see why this is an issue...

p.s.
Think of it like this - we have a symbiotic relationship with many of the businesses in the area. We discuss them there and it's free publicity for them; we buy their services or products and it's money that stays in the area. We have forum fests or other events and they might bless us with goodies to sample or raffle for charity - (see the pics of what Loves Bites sent to the forum fest this year!) Seriously - it's good for all.

p.s.s.
No, there's just one picnic table in the place. I'd give the ambiance a rating of "3" on a scale of one to ten. If it was a "true" bbq joint, they should be playing swamp blues, have sawdust and peanut shells on the floor and maybe one more picnic table.

Who knows, maybe Bill is going to hire a decorator but in the meantime... it's a serious hole in the wall but one worth finding. (Oh, and a liquor license would be nice. Gotta have beer with bbq.)

Newbiesaukee · 10-10-2008, 09:11 AM

I am always a little skeptical of a first post, BUT we are all intelligent enough to make our own decisions. This discussion, which we have had before, seems a bit silly as all the comments have been reasonable, some funny, but let's drop this and I hope no one leaves the forum because of this. What is the point of an open discussion if we all think the same and no one disagrees?

Rose · 10-10-2008, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Newbiesaukee

but let's drop this and I hope no one leaves the forum because of this.

And what if they do? How do you get them back? All I know is I feel like I'm wasting my time reading snide remarks.

SIKSUKR · 10-10-2008, 01:19 PM

So,according to AW he IS the owner.It would be one thing if he let you know that when he posted his phony review.It is certainly another when its posted to make it appear he was a satisfied customer.BIG difference in my opinion.I feel like I'm wasting my time with biased reviews.

ironhorsetim · 10-10-2008, 02:49 PM

My wife and I went for late lunch (2:30) and both of us had the special. I gotta say that's some goooood grub

Thanks to all that recommended it !

Argie's Wife · 10-10-2008, 03:33 PM

No offense SIKSUKR but I agree that it would be nice if bbq1 would identify himself as owner or customer but nonetheless - how did his post hurt anyone or anything? (My impression is that he's not too computer/internet savvy, ya know... no harm there - people learn.)

Besides, his post is all the slogans from the restaurant's menu and delivery car, if you read them. He's a nice guy - honest. I don't think he's trying to pull the wool over anyone's eyes with his post.

It's like anything else on this forum - read thru the posts and pick out what interests you or what you believe.... after all, it's an opinion forum. Consensus seems to be that it's a good place and recommended.

Peace.

WinnDixie · 10-10-2008, 06:32 PM

It's like anything else on this forum - read thru the posts and pick out what interests you or what you believe.... after all, it's an opinion forum. Consensus seems to be that it's a good place and recommended.

Peace.[/QUOTE]

I like your sentiment on the forum, Argie's Wife. I don't know the place in question...I think it is where Laflamme's Donuts were many years ago (and they were to die for!!). But I do want to put a PS on Dreamland. You are so right about it. Now there are several locations, Birmingham and possibly Atlanta...and one came to Huntsville about 4 years ago. We have not gotten our ribs on newspaper...progressed to paper plates now...but they do plop down a torn open loaf of white bread and you can dip away in the sauce until your meat arrives. Very good, and a bit spicy. You can watch them cook TONS of meat in a huge oven right near you. We've taken a number of visiting Northern friends there, and they love it. Like their slogan says "Ain't nothin' like 'em, nowhere"! BTW, their baked beans taste quite like New England ones.

Pineedles · 10-10-2008, 07:33 PM

So where is the owner's response to this controversy? What was the intention and the internet skill set present at the time of the posting?

Argie's Wife · 10-10-2008, 08:37 PM

Pineneedles - I get your question but I'm not sure I can answer it.

For full disclosure - the first time I went to the place, I told the owner something like, "I heard about you on winnipesakuee.com and you should check it out..." To be honest - Bill didn't seem like he knew what a "forum" on the internet meant - and I certainly don't mean that to sound judgmental or anything of the sort. Anyhow, that was b-e-f-o-r-e I wrote my review about the food. I was working that day and picked up lunch just cuz it had a good review and was cheap. And then I wrote my review.

Fast forward a couple of weeks - I went back to get supper (I think it was last Sunday night) on my way home from work and Argie had been playing "Mr. Mom" all day and Bill told me that he had checked out the forum. He was really pleased with what people had to say - just real humble about it all.

I honestly can't remember if he told me he'd posted something or not - but for real... the food is really the best bbq I've had here in New England since I moved back up here.

========

WinnDixie - Did you mean "Goody Good Doughnuts"? Because according to hubby, LaFlamme's Doughnuts is now Water Street Cafe but the original is where the Landmark Inn is now.

At any rate, I appreciate your comments about Dreamland. Hubby 1.0 (the one I had before my upgrade) worked for the owner of Dreamland by bricking several of his restaurants and his home in AL. He often brought home a rack of ribs in newspaper and I thought it was the strangest thing I'd ever seen but they were so wonderful I soon forgot about the awful wrapper! Coupled with a six pack of Miller Genuine Draft and you've got a seven course meal for a redneck!

brk-lnt · 10-11-2008, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Pineedles

So where is the owner's response to this controversy? What was the intention and the internet skill set present at the time of the posting?

Who cares? As others have said, it doesn't take a whole lot of reading comprehension skills to realize that bbq1 was not trying to deceive anyone.

Pineedles · 10-11-2008, 07:33 AM

Ok, I agree. I was just trying to get some closure on the discussion. If the place has good eats and good service what's the difference. Chaulk it up to inexperience and let it go at that. Personally I love BBQ, just gotta do it in moderation like fried foods.

SIKSUKR · 10-11-2008, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Argie's Wife

No offense SIKSUKR but I agree that it would be nice if bbq1 would identify himself as owner or customer but nonetheless - how did his post hurt anyone or anything? (My impression is that he's not too computer/internet savvy, ya know... no harm there - people learn.)

Besides, his post is all the slogans from the restaurant's menu and delivery car, if you read them. He's a nice guy - honest. I don't think he's trying to pull the wool over anyone's eyes with his post.

It's like anything else on this forum - read thru the posts and pick out what interests you or what you believe.... after all, it's an opinion forum. Consensus seems to be that it's a good place and recommended.

Peace.

Fair enough AW.I'll leave this alone now and let my prior posts stand for what they are,MY opinion.Best of luck to BBQ1 and his restaurant.

phoenix · 10-11-2008, 10:43 AM

phantom It is time for you to try and give us your views

WinnDixie · 10-11-2008, 10:58 AM

AW...I might be confused (can you imagine--young thing like me??)... but,the ones I remember getting were way back in the 60's, and I thought my husband's family referred to it as Laflammes. It may well have been Goody Good's...but never have tasted a donut as "good" since!! Oh well...back to barbecue...

chow machine · 10-13-2008, 04:00 AM

dang... ya'll need to stop the nonsense and try it for yourselfs. i live right down the road and just about live at p.bs... if you do like ribs and bbq this place is the best period,and if you ask nice enough and there not to busy bill will show you the smoker and everything[wont tell me how they make the rub though but i'm still trying] real nice people great food,and the best ribs ive ever had. if your not sure what to get, then get the b.o.b, you get a big portion of everything

brk-lnt · 10-13-2008, 07:49 AM

The wife and I went in this past Saturday for a couple of pulled pork BBQ sandwiches. Absolutely fabulous BBQ, some of the best I've ever had (and I travel a bit for work, including a lot of stops in the south). This is the sort of place that you probably wouldn't think to try just by driving past it, but it is worth going out of your way for.

sa meredith · 10-14-2008, 12:37 PM

Is it possible to review a restaurant that the writer never visited?

I'm posting this, just so others who might not know, realize what I did not.
On Friday, I had every intention of having lunch here (Panama Bill's BBQ). I had planned on being solo, but my better half made it up to the lake early, so I allowed her to tag along (hahaahahhaha).
Anyway, I had written the address down, but normally, never take a right onto Union Ave when I am at the traffic light (facing Fratello's). But, based on the address, a right hand turn was needed. So we cruised down a bit, keeping our eyes peeled. And, soon spotted the "Busy Corner" sign, and then, right across the street, we saw Panama Bill's. Now, although it was not what I expected, I would have gone in if I was alone. However, the two of us were looking to have lunch, and sit and relax for a bit. And the place just does not look very inviting. The tables I could see from the two large windows were simply picnic tables.They probably are just fine for the place, but it is just not what we were looking for, at that moment. It seems to be more along the lines of a sub-shop/ pizza place concept. Take your food and leave. And we just decided to turn back and hit another spot.
So, in case anyone was planning a trip over to Panama Bill's, and was not sure what the style of the restaurant was...now you know.
I have no doubt the food is great, based on what I have read in this thread.
Don't let my feelings regarding the place keep you away. But it may not be the place to pack up the kids and head over to.

chow machine · 10-14-2008, 08:34 PM

you missed out...whats wrong with a picnic table, what do you expect from bbq,5 star waiters and a candle lit dinner. last i knew you eat the bbq not the curtains and paint job

Newbiesaukee · 10-14-2008, 09:14 PM

Thanks, sa. You can't review the food in a place you haven't eaten, but you can give an honest appraisal as you did of the physical situation. There is nothing wrong with picnic tables, but it is helpful to know if you are planning to take a long trip for lunch. This is the kind of information that is useful to Forum members. It is neither pro nor con; just factual information. sa doesn't deserve the criticism.

Argie's Wife · 10-14-2008, 09:20 PM

See post #23 - I "warned" you about the decor (or lack thereof)...

Best advice: Get it "to go" and eat it while watching a good game or take it to the park for a picnic!

Bigstan · 10-14-2008, 10:14 PM

Chow Machine - nothing at all is wrong with picnic tables, with a roll of paper towels on top it just spells BBQ. You just forgot to include the 'dang' that has been in all your Panama posts......

brk-lnt · 10-15-2008, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigstan

Chow Machine - nothing at all is wrong with picnic tables, with a roll of paper towels on top it just spells BBQ. You just forgot to include the 'dang' that has been in all your Panama posts......

You "all" of the 1 post he made before the one you commented on?

sa meredith · 10-15-2008, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by chow machine

you missed out...whats wrong with a picnic table, what do you expect from bbq,5 star waiters and a candle lit dinner. last i knew you eat the bbq not the curtains and paint job

STUCK UP???!!!
No, you have the wrong guy. You'll never meet a more "every day Joe" than myself. Although I do work hard, and strive for life's finer things (who doesn't?).
As I thought I clearly stated, it just was not what we were looking for at that moment. Is that so bad?
There is nothing wrong with picnic tables....give me and the boys a bucket of beers, some bbq, and a roll of paper towles any time...in fact, hold off on the paper towels, I'll use my shirt!
I'm sorry you took my post the way you did, and I can certainly understand.
It's just that, we were looking for a place to spend an hour and a half or so.
Sorry.

ironhorsetim · 10-15-2008, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by chow machine

you missed out...whats wrong with a picnic table, what do you expect from bbq,5 star waiters and a candle lit dinner. last i knew you eat the bbq not the curtains and paint job

May I ask if you have any interest in PBB's ? Not that it matters just curious, I've been there myself and it's great

dpg · 10-16-2008, 06:01 AM

Sorry for asking for probably the fifth time but where exactly are they? I'm not familiar with "busy corner" or the square. Is there anything else their near most people (who read here) would recognize?

brk-lnt · 10-16-2008, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by dpg

Sorry for asking for probably the fifth time but where exactly are they? I'm not familiar with "busy corner" or the square. Is there anything else their near most people (who read here) would recognize?

Follow Union Ave about 1 mile south of Fratellos. Busy Corner is labeled as such, although you wouldn't generally call it "busy" just by observation.

GWC... · 10-16-2008, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by dpg

Sorry for asking for probably the fifth time but where exactly are they? I'm not familiar with "busy corner" or the square. Is there anything else their near most people (who read here) would recognize?

Hope this Google link helps...

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=e...04506&t=h&z=17

Overlake97 · 10-16-2008, 02:50 PM

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=e...=16&iwloc=addr

Hopefully, this will work.

Waterbaby · 10-16-2008, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by brk-lnt

Follow Union Ave about 1 mile south of Fratellos. Busy Corner is labeled as such, although you wouldn't generally call it "busy" just by observation.

Not sure if that's the name of the restaurant I'm thinking of, and not sure if that's the location -- isn't it where, if you bear left you go toward Tilton and if you bear right you end up downtown Laconia? I could be totally confused on this, which wouldn't be the first time,

!

brk-lnt · 10-17-2008, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Waterbaby

Not sure if that's the name of the restaurant I'm thinking of, and not sure if that's the location -- isn't it where, if you bear left you go toward Tilton and if you bear right you end up downtown Laconia? I could be totally confused on this, which wouldn't be the first time,

!

Yeah, that's pretty much it.

AKADQ · 10-18-2008, 05:11 PM

I went to Panama Bill's yesterday for the first time

. After reading many people talk about the Pulled Pork Sandwich with fries & slaw for $5.00 I decided to try it. Upon arriving, I quickly discovered that this special was not being offered

(most likely due to it's populartiy) because he was out of Pulled Pork and was exspecting more in soon. Bill quickly pointed out his new special ! 2 Jumbo Taco's with fries for $5.00 plus tax. I reluctantly said yes to the tacos knowing this is not what I had come for. Upon making the taco's in the back kitchen Bill suggested the Brisket Sandwich, knowing that I had come for the pulled pork sandwich. Bill said since he was out of the pulled pork he would honor the previous special with a Brisket sandwich, fries & slaw for the same price of $5.00 plus tax. Without hesitation I quickly said yes !
Dang now thats what I call good customer service at the Q. Anyways the Brisket sandwich was ever so delicious as well as the fries & slaw.
The location of parking can be difficult if busy and the inside atmosphere needs a little attention, but for what this guy is giving for his lunch specials shows that he wants your business. This more than makes up for the negatives. Being in business I don't know where you can go in the Lakes Region and get all this for $5.00. Keep up the good job! Laconia needs more places like this.

donnamatrix · 10-21-2008, 07:46 AM

We went on Sunday 10/19/08, around 2pm for a late lunch. Unfortunately, they were totally out of pulled pork (darn it) so we had the brisket sandwich. YUMMY. It was great, not fatty, great flavor, very tender. We told the fellow behind the counter we thought the sandwich was great, and he promptly brought us each a rib to try. Delish -- and a good marketing strategy as well. We met the owner, who came in from making a delivery while we were finishing lunch, and he seems very nice. The food was terrific (wish we didn't live all the way over in Moultonboro sometimes). The decor is nonexistent, but okay, it's not really that type of restaurant. There are a couple picnic tables. But the restaurant is neat , clean - the people friendly, and we'll definitely be going back. SOON

Sunrise Point · 10-29-2008, 08:12 PM

My husband and I went to Panama Bills on Sat. Since we weren't exactly sure where "Busy Corner" was, we parked at the Laconia City Hall and walked over.

I had the beef taco and my husband had the pulled pork sandwich and it was the best! We will definitely go back. Next time, we will get take-out (maybe a B.O.B.) and bring it back to the camp and dine in "style" with candles and maybe a beer of two.

If you haven't tried it, you are missing out on some great food.

ballerina8p · 10-30-2008, 11:47 PM

my husband heard of real bbq up north we both wanted to try it.we so both loved it, real corned bread and a beef brisket my hubby loved. i love fresh seafood the nantucket was to die for.we will be back

eyenotall777 · 01-08-2009, 01:22 PM

Just wanted to let everyone know that my hubby and I tried the Best Dang Q and we were very pleased. It was approx. 5:30 last Fri. evening and we attempted to order the pulled pork, but was out of it. Delivery never came due to storms. It was mentioned that it is cooked for 12hrs. Maybe next time...we opted for the 1/2 rack pork rib dinner and it was very good and hot that we actually had to let it sit for about 10 min. before digging in. Fries were nice and crispy, baked beans, cornbread and my favorite w/ BBQ...coleslaw!! I know I may have mentioned this in previous posts that I am a slaw fan and there are just some places that do not focus on their slaw, sort of use it as a filler. It is a shame how much get's thrown out. But his slaw is perfect! Nice crunch, and light mayo. No horseradish, but if there is, it is very light. Very nice to the palate, I wish the serving was a little more, but it is enough.

It seems to be a one man show, I coud be wrong, but you can tell alot of effort and joy is put into the food. It definately is not a sit down place for a crowd, but a great take out place. They deliver as well. Oh yeah, and the chicken fingers are real. Nice and juicy w/ a side of the BBQ sauce.

We will be back.

SteveA · 01-08-2009, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by eyenotall777

Oh yeah, and the chicken fingers are real. Nice and juicy w/ a side of the BBQ sauce.

We will be back.

I've got to try this place.. I never knew chickens had fingers!

Just teasing you, nice review. Thanks

ballerina8p · 01-18-2009, 12:32 AM

Third visit for us,we cannot say enough! Always a treat.I am surprised how quiet it is,obviosly word has not gotten out about "THE BEST DANG Q"

George. · 02-10-2009, 04:11 PM

I had buffalo wings and they were pretty good. I would definitely go there again.

Overlake97 · 06-07-2009, 06:52 PM

I tried the Smoke Shack's pulled pork. LOTS of pork, but it was basically dry pork with BBQ sauce provided cold in a ketchup squeeze bottle on the side (plus hot sauce, if interested), accompanied by a nice pile of fries. It was good and I'll definitely go again (they've re-modeled nicely, with seating/table service upstairs and down. A big plus). HOWEVER, a few days later I revisited Panama Bill's for comparison, and Bill's pulled pork sandwich (the $5 special) beat Smoke Shack's, hands down! Nice juicy pork, coated with warm BBQ sauce (which is excellent). And his fries are still the best around. Hopefully, the greater visibility of BBQ in the area will enhance business at both places.

nkiar · 06-07-2009, 08:07 PM

I've driven by this place many times & seen them loading the deliveries but never knew what kind of place it was- thought it was pizza and subs like someone else mentioned. I think getting an order to go and enjoying it on the porch is in order- soon! Have to say I wouldn't be likely to stop in if not for the posts on this forum. Thanks for all the info on this place- which is fairly close to me, which is another plus. Can't wait to give it a try and I'll post my review when I do. nkiar

Argie's Wife · 06-10-2009, 05:19 PM

Tried 'em for catering for a lunchtime meeting at work (30+ people) and they did great - everyone was pleased and there was almost no leftovers!

Rattlesnake Gal · 06-10-2009, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Argie's Wife

Tried 'em for catering for a lunchtime meeting at work (30+ people) and they did great - everyone was pleased and there was almost no leftovers!

Glad to hear it!

I tried their website and it is not working. I was worried that they were done.

mr1drfl · 07-03-2009, 01:59 PM

I drove by yesterday and it appears that they are closed. Any info????

vmartino26 · 07-05-2009, 07:05 PM

We also drove by today -- July 5th -- and it appears that they are gone. Another business lost?

Argie's Wife · 08-02-2009, 10:07 PM

Just learned that the restaurant is moving - Bill is looking for a better location.

Hope he finds one soon... I'm craving bbq ribs!

garysanfran · 08-03-2009, 06:28 PM

I hope Panama Bills found a new home before locking the doors at the old place. In the middle of the busy summer tourist crowd, not jhaving one's restaurant doors open could be a very bad mistake.

I've had BBQ at both Panama Bills and the Smoke Shack at The Weirs. Both were excellent, but I prefer(ed?) the moistness of Panama Bills and thought the sauce was worthy of the extra distance I had to drive.

jetskier · 08-09-2009, 08:40 PM

Hi all,

We drove by and the building is completely empty. There is a "for lease" sign in the window and nothing redirecting potential patrons to a new location. For all intents and purposes, it looks like the business is gone. If someone knows better, please enlighten us. We really liked Panama Bill's...it would be a shame if they went out of business.

Jetskier

09-01-2008, 07:24 PM	#1
Overlake97 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Gilford Posts: 246 Thanks: 145 Thanked 58 Times in 42 Posts	Panama Bill's Bar-b-que (Laconia) Has anyone tried Panama Bill's Seafood and Bar-B-que in Laconia? I've been there 3 times so far (all take out; it's not really a sit-down place), and have been impressed each time. On my first and second visits I ordered the pulled pork sandwich, which was about $7. The sandwich was great: Excellent pork and barbeque sauce on a nice, chewey sesame roll. For the price, that would have been enough, but there was also a large portion of fresh hand-cut french fries and a small cup of cole slaw. So good I had to get it again on my second visit. On my third visit I went for the half rack of ribs (rather than quarter or full) which came with barbequed beans, those great fries, cole slaw and corn bread (I think). The rib rack was large (for a half), as were the ribs; four filled me up so I had three more for the next day (which did not go to waste!). Again, everything was excellent. I could have used a larger portion of beans, but everything else was fine, including the nice size portion of barbeque sauce that came on the side. If you like barbeque/ribs, you really have to give Panama Bill's a try. He occupies the building left vacant by Kassidy's internation Pizza, near the busy corner in Laconia.

09-03-2008, 08:02 AM	#3
angela4design Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Meredith Posts: 353 Thanks: 45 Thanked 54 Times in 38 Posts	Location... It's in "Normandin Square", aka BUSY CORNER. It was a doughnut shop ages ago, then Kassidy's Pizza. I plan to try it... I think he used to be the 'BBQ master' when B-Mae's had a BBQ restaurant several years ago (I forget the name). I remember great food! And, I think Panama Bill delivers! I see his car around with the light on top.

09-07-2008, 12:59 PM	#5
Argie's Wife Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Alton Posts: 1,908 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 533 Thanked 579 Times in 260 Posts	The Best Dang Q... I'm glad Argie doesn't read this forum because he'd have a fit if he knew what I had for lunch today and didn't get for him! The pulled pork bbq sandwich with fries, slaw, and a side of bbq sauce for $5 is more than a meal. I got it "to go" and am pleasantly suprised at what was in the bag! First off, not only do you get everything in a nice styro clamshell to keep it hot, but you also get a little bundle of plasticwear, wet-nap, napkin, salt & pepper and a toothpick. The food was hot and made fresh to order - no fries under a heat lamp or pre-wrapped sandwiches. The portions were beyond good. The pork sandwich is chewy and not greasy at all. There's bbq sauce in the sandwich, but it's cooked in and not drippy at all. There's a side of bbq sauce to dip your sandwich in if you want more zing. The fries appear to be hand cut - if not, they're still good and hot. The meat is honestly smoked and has a reddish/pink tint to it - it's not just overcooked pork in a slowcooker, like I had anticipated. It has a smoky taste that goes well with the sauce. Now... about that bbq sauce... Magic in a bowl. I'm a lucky woman because I've had the best bbq on earth - Dreamland BBQ in Tuscaloosa, AL. Ask anyone who's lived in AL and they'll tell you; Dreamland is the type of place where you get your meat served to you wrapped up in newspapers and the price is low but it's so good that the owner is a millionaire (I'm not making this up!). The bbq sauce is sweet and turns a little warm - almost hot - later on but sticks to the meat like it should.... makes you want to dip your fries in it. Well, I think Panama Bill is channeling Dreamland. There's no higher compliment than that!

10-07-2008, 05:01 PM	#6
bbq1 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ref.panamabills bbq & seafood this place is alsome can not belived that in laconia nh exsits the best dang q ( for all you tender foots best dang bbq)the pork is so tender the brisket to die for melts right in you mouth not in your hand ha! ha! m&m joke!if you haven't tried this hole in the wall you don't know what your missing check out there menu at www.panamabills.net or www.bestdangq.com

10-08-2008, 12:29 PM	#10
sa meredith Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 986 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 32 Thanked 352 Times in 137 Posts	Friday I'm going to be over that way on Friday or Saturday this week, and plan on giving it a try. Seems like it might be a good lunch spot. And maybe I, too, will "belived" how "alsome" it is.

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09-03-2008, 07:14 AM	#2
Boston Fireguy Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sanders Bay/Naples FL/South Shore MA Posts: 42 Thanks: 3 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Panama Bill's Seafood and Bar-B-que Where in Laconia? First I've heard of it.....

09-05-2008, 09:58 AM	#4
Scott Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 150 Thanks: 0 Thanked 68 Times in 19 Posts	I had a pulled pork sandwich from them and was very pleased. It was the best I've had around here.

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10-08-2008, 08:48 AM	#9
Bigstan Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Gilford NH Posts: 376 Thanks: 9 Thanked 163 Times in 91 Posts	Well, it may be blatant self promotion......but after 1 try I will testify that it is as 'ALSOME' as he claims.

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10-09-2008, 07:01 AM	#15
Happy Gourmand Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ruskin FL Posts: 1,025 Thanks: 187 Thanked 322 Times in 179 Posts	Omg!!!!! Deja-vu all over again!!

10-09-2008, 09:44 AM	#16
SIKSUKR Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,075 Thanks: 215 Thanked 903 Times in 509 Posts	If you people can't see the difference between a new member giving a review and a new member/owner of a restaurant coming here and telling everyone how good his place is like he's just another customer then what standards do you use? __________________ SIKSUKR

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10-10-2008, 08:07 AM	#23
Argie's Wife Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Alton Posts: 1,908 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 533 Thanked 579 Times in 260 Posts	Maybe I'm not the brightest bulb on the tree, but it's not a stretch to say that "bbq1" is most likely the owner of the place, ya think? Welcome bbq1! Glad you joined us, Bill! Maybe he hasn't had much experience with forums or has netiquette (internet manners - i.e. not writing in all caps which is the same as shouting. We all had to learn at some point, right?) But if you take the time to talk with Bill you'll learn the guy is really genuine and just wants to make a good product that people will buy. That's why he's in business. A little self-promotion can be good at times and I don't see it as being inappropriate on a thread discussing his business. If there was a thread about my line of work going on here or my business, I'd probably chime in - as would anyone. Honestly, I don't see why this is an issue... p.s. Think of it like this - we have a symbiotic relationship with many of the businesses in the area. We discuss them there and it's free publicity for them; we buy their services or products and it's money that stays in the area. We have forum fests or other events and they might bless us with goodies to sample or raffle for charity - (see the pics of what Loves Bites sent to the forum fest this year!) Seriously - it's good for all. p.s.s. No, there's just one picnic table in the place. I'd give the ambiance a rating of "3" on a scale of one to ten. If it was a "true" bbq joint, they should be playing swamp blues, have sawdust and peanut shells on the floor and maybe one more picnic table. Who knows, maybe Bill is going to hire a decorator but in the meantime... it's a serious hole in the wall but one worth finding. (Oh, and a liquor license would be nice. Gotta have beer with bbq.)

10-10-2008, 09:11 AM	#24
Newbiesaukee Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Coral Gables, winter; Long Island, summer Posts: 1,349 Thanks: 922 Thanked 569 Times in 295 Posts	I am always a little skeptical of a first post, BUT we are all intelligent enough to make our own decisions. This discussion, which we have had before, seems a bit silly as all the comments have been reasonable, some funny, but let's drop this and I hope no one leaves the forum because of this. What is the point of an open discussion if we all think the same and no one disagrees?

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10-10-2008, 01:19 PM	#26
SIKSUKR Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,075 Thanks: 215 Thanked 903 Times in 509 Posts	So,according to AW he IS the owner.It would be one thing if he let you know that when he posted his phony review.It is certainly another when its posted to make it appear he was a satisfied customer.BIG difference in my opinion.I feel like I'm wasting my time with biased reviews. __________________ SIKSUKR

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10-10-2008, 02:49 PM	#27
ironhorsetim Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Laconia/Ft Myers Beach, Fl Posts: 184 Thanks: 57 Thanked 26 Times in 23 Posts	back on track My wife and I went for late lunch (2:30) and both of us had the special. I gotta say that's some goooood grub Thanks to all that recommended it ! __________________ "If common sense was common,everyone would have it" Ironhorsetim "Always do sober,what you say you'll do drunk, That will teach you to keep your mouth shut" Ernest Hemmingway

10-10-2008, 03:33 PM	#28
Argie's Wife Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Alton Posts: 1,908 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 533 Thanked 579 Times in 260 Posts	No offense SIKSUKR but I agree that it would be nice if bbq1 would identify himself as owner or customer but nonetheless - how did his post hurt anyone or anything? (My impression is that he's not too computer/internet savvy, ya know... no harm there - people learn.) Besides, his post is all the slogans from the restaurant's menu and delivery car, if you read them. He's a nice guy - honest. I don't think he's trying to pull the wool over anyone's eyes with his post. It's like anything else on this forum - read thru the posts and pick out what interests you or what you believe.... after all, it's an opinion forum. Consensus seems to be that it's a good place and recommended. Peace.

10-10-2008, 06:32 PM	#29
WinnDixie Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 239 Thanks: 44 Thanked 75 Times in 17 Posts	Just a "post script"! It's like anything else on this forum - read thru the posts and pick out what interests you or what you believe.... after all, it's an opinion forum. Consensus seems to be that it's a good place and recommended. Peace.[/QUOTE] I like your sentiment on the forum, Argie's Wife. I don't know the place in question...I think it is where Laflamme's Donuts were many years ago (and they were to die for!!). But I do want to put a PS on Dreamland. You are so right about it. Now there are several locations, Birmingham and possibly Atlanta...and one came to Huntsville about 4 years ago. We have not gotten our ribs on newspaper...progressed to paper plates now...but they do plop down a torn open loaf of white bread and you can dip away in the sauce until your meat arrives. Very good, and a bit spicy. You can watch them cook TONS of meat in a huge oven right near you. We've taken a number of visiting Northern friends there, and they love it. Like their slogan says "Ain't nothin' like 'em, nowhere"! BTW, their baked beans taste quite like New England ones.

10-10-2008, 07:33 PM	#30
Pineedles Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Moultonborough & CT Posts: 2,535 Thanks: 1,059 Thanked 652 Times in 363 Posts	Owner's response? So where is the owner's response to this controversy? What was the intention and the internet skill set present at the time of the posting?

10-10-2008, 08:37 PM	#31
Argie's Wife Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Alton Posts: 1,908 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 533 Thanked 579 Times in 260 Posts	Pineneedles - I get your question but I'm not sure I can answer it. For full disclosure - the first time I went to the place, I told the owner something like, "I heard about you on winnipesakuee.com and you should check it out..." To be honest - Bill didn't seem like he knew what a "forum" on the internet meant - and I certainly don't mean that to sound judgmental or anything of the sort. Anyhow, that was b-e-f-o-r-e I wrote my review about the food. I was working that day and picked up lunch just cuz it had a good review and was cheap. And then I wrote my review. Fast forward a couple of weeks - I went back to get supper (I think it was last Sunday night) on my way home from work and Argie had been playing "Mr. Mom" all day and Bill told me that he had checked out the forum. He was really pleased with what people had to say - just real humble about it all. I honestly can't remember if he told me he'd posted something or not - but for real... the food is really the best bbq I've had here in New England since I moved back up here. ======== WinnDixie - Did you mean "Goody Good Doughnuts"? Because according to hubby, LaFlamme's Doughnuts is now Water Street Cafe but the original is where the Landmark Inn is now. At any rate, I appreciate your comments about Dreamland. Hubby 1.0 (the one I had before my upgrade) worked for the owner of Dreamland by bricking several of his restaurants and his home in AL. He often brought home a rack of ribs in newspaper and I thought it was the strangest thing I'd ever seen but they were so wonderful I soon forgot about the awful wrapper! Coupled with a six pack of Miller Genuine Draft and you've got a seven course meal for a redneck!

10-11-2008, 07:33 AM	#33
Pineedles Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Moultonborough & CT Posts: 2,535 Thanks: 1,059 Thanked 652 Times in 363 Posts	Who cares? Ok, I agree. I was just trying to get some closure on the discussion. If the place has good eats and good service what's the difference. Chaulk it up to inexperience and let it go at that. Personally I love BBQ, just gotta do it in moderation like fried foods.

10-11-2008, 10:43 AM	#35
phoenix Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: phoenix and moultonboro Posts: 1,520 Thanks: 58 Thanked 266 Times in 187 Posts	phantom It is time for you to try and give us your views __________________ it's tough to make predictions specially about the future

10-11-2008, 10:58 AM	#36
WinnDixie Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 239 Thanks: 44 Thanked 75 Times in 17 Posts	confused AW...I might be confused (can you imagine--young thing like me??)... but,the ones I remember getting were way back in the 60's, and I thought my husband's family referred to it as Laflammes. It may well have been Goody Good's...but never have tasted a donut as "good" since!! Oh well...back to barbecue...

10-13-2008, 04:00 AM	#37
chow machine Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	talk is cheap dang... ya'll need to stop the nonsense and try it for yourselfs. i live right down the road and just about live at p.bs... if you do like ribs and bbq this place is the best period,and if you ask nice enough and there not to busy bill will show you the smoker and everything[wont tell me how they make the rub though but i'm still trying] real nice people great food,and the best ribs ive ever had. if your not sure what to get, then get the b.o.b, you get a big portion of everything

10-13-2008, 07:49 AM	#38
brk-lnt Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: South Down Shores Posts: 1,938 Thanks: 533 Thanked 568 Times in 334 Posts	The wife and I went in this past Saturday for a couple of pulled pork BBQ sandwiches. Absolutely fabulous BBQ, some of the best I've ever had (and I travel a bit for work, including a lot of stops in the south). This is the sort of place that you probably wouldn't think to try just by driving past it, but it is worth going out of your way for. __________________ [insert witty phrase here]

10-14-2008, 12:37 PM	#39
sa meredith Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 986 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 32 Thanked 352 Times in 137 Posts	never went Is it possible to review a restaurant that the writer never visited? I'm posting this, just so others who might not know, realize what I did not. On Friday, I had every intention of having lunch here (Panama Bill's BBQ). I had planned on being solo, but my better half made it up to the lake early, so I allowed her to tag along (hahaahahhaha). Anyway, I had written the address down, but normally, never take a right onto Union Ave when I am at the traffic light (facing Fratello's). But, based on the address, a right hand turn was needed. So we cruised down a bit, keeping our eyes peeled. And, soon spotted the "Busy Corner" sign, and then, right across the street, we saw Panama Bill's. Now, although it was not what I expected, I would have gone in if I was alone. However, the two of us were looking to have lunch, and sit and relax for a bit. And the place just does not look very inviting. The tables I could see from the two large windows were simply picnic tables.They probably are just fine for the place, but it is just not what we were looking for, at that moment. It seems to be more along the lines of a sub-shop/ pizza place concept. Take your food and leave. And we just decided to turn back and hit another spot. So, in case anyone was planning a trip over to Panama Bill's, and was not sure what the style of the restaurant was...now you know. I have no doubt the food is great, based on what I have read in this thread. Don't let my feelings regarding the place keep you away. But it may not be the place to pack up the kids and head over to.

10-14-2008, 08:34 PM	#40
chow machine Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	stuck up sa you missed out...whats wrong with a picnic table, what do you expect from bbq,5 star waiters and a candle lit dinner. last i knew you eat the bbq not the curtains and paint job Last edited by chow machine; 10-14-2008 at 08:48 PM. Reason: spelling

10-14-2008, 09:14 PM	#41
Newbiesaukee Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Coral Gables, winter; Long Island, summer Posts: 1,349 Thanks: 922 Thanked 569 Times in 295 Posts	Thanks, sa. You can't review the food in a place you haven't eaten, but you can give an honest appraisal as you did of the physical situation. There is nothing wrong with picnic tables, but it is helpful to know if you are planning to take a long trip for lunch. This is the kind of information that is useful to Forum members. It is neither pro nor con; just factual information. sa doesn't deserve the criticism.