Can Anyone Identify This Location?

[mcdude]

Moo!

This card was postmarked in 1955. Can anyone identify the location?

[nj2nh]

Well, I am no expert, but that looks like Alton Bay and Echo Point in the backround there. Somewhere in Gilford, maybe, off Route 11???

nj2nh

[SteveA]

Originally Posted by nj2nh

Well, I am no expert, but that looks like Alton Bay and Echo Point in the backround there. Somewhere in Gilford, maybe, off Route 11???

nj2nh

I think your close nj2nh.

Looks like what you would see from 11A in Gilford. I pulled up google terrain map in the area of intersection of 11A and Poor Farm Rd. Gilford.

Tried to paste it into the thread but I messed it up somehow.

Some of the map experts on here will figure it out.

[Argie's Wife]

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[fmgate]

If you look closely, it appears that Red Hill is in the upper right just behind and to the left of the tree. You have to look closely, because it is not the highest ridge; Red Hill is actually set in front of that ridge.

So if that is Red Hill, then my guess is that the view is loooking up Moultonborough Bay. Perhaps that is Buzzell Cove right there in the middle.

[NHKathy]

my guess is

Parade Road in Meredith overlooking Lake Waukewan ?

[mcdude]

NHKathy: Postcard photographers were often from out of town and had no idea what they were photographing so many times you get some amusing notes on the reverse the card. Keeping that in mind, this card is labelled "Pastoral Scene on Lake Winnipesaukee"

[Ryan]

It actually looks like the view from Hole 9/17 at Pheasant Ridge CC.

[RLW]

It looks like Dana Morse's farm up on Alton Mountain before the trees grew up.

[Sunset Bob]

Yes that looks like Echo point but there is no large cove across from it in Alton Bay.I think that it is Black Island and you are looking up Moultonborough bay.
RLW yes it does look like Morse's fence but its not Alton Bay.

[Mee-n-Mac]

Originally Posted by Sunset Bob

Yes that looks like Echo point but there is no large cove across from it in Alton Bay.I think that it is Black Island and you are looking up Moultonborough bay. RLW yes it does look like Morse's fence but its not Alton Bay.

I agree, it's not Alton Bay, the water just looks wrong. I'm also guessing somewhere in Moultonborough. Could we be looking from the neck towards Hemlock Cove, Ambrose Cove and Black Pt (on the far right) ?

[Pineedles]

Prior to the Belgium Belted Galloways that now reside in Center Harbor, Guernsey cows were at the Longwood Farms. We could be looking ESE at the entrance to Center Harbor Bay.

[fun spot fan]

It look like the area by Governor Wentworth Hwy or Rt109 looking down to Sawyer Point Rd off of Caverly Point Rd in Tuftonboro.

[Coolbreeze]

I wish it were the view from the front porch of my dream farmhouse...

[Patiently Watching]

I think it is Rt. 109 in Tuftonboro between 20 Mile Bay and Melvin Village close to Copps Hill and the entrance to the old Wawbeek.

[Dave R]

Since it was obviously early to mid autumn based on the foliage and the sun was pretty close to peak height for that time of year, based on the short shadows, the location of the shadows indicate the camera was facing west to northwest. There is no way the shot could have been taken looking easterly, so that eliminates Echo Point.

It looks like it was taken near the intersection of 109 and 109A just north of 20 Mile Bay. The alignment of the tip of Haley Point and the entrance to Buzzell Cove on the right side of the picture helps define this location. Everything else fits except Black Island looks more like a peninsula than an island and the scale of Buzzell Cove may be a little off.

[Pineedles]

Originally Posted by Dave R

Since it was obviously early to mid autumn based on the foliage and the sun was pretty close to peak height for that time of year, based on the short shadows, the location of the shadows indicate the camera was facing west to northwest. There is no way the shot could have been taken looking easterly, so that eliminates Echo Point.

It looks like it was taken near the intersection of 109 and 109A just north of 20 Mile Bay. The alignment of the tip of Haley Point and the entrance to Buzzell Cove on the right side of the picture helps define this location. Everything else fits except Black Island looks more like a peninsula than an island and the scale of Buzzell Cove may be a little off.

No way! If the camera was facing west we would have seen the shadows behind us. I agree with the time of the year, but here also I have to disagree, the shadow of the colorful tree in the foreground is going away from us. I must go with my original examination of a ESE direction.

[ishoot308]

Here's my guess...I believe the picture was taken in a Northeast direction. I think it was taken from one of the old farms off route 3 in Laconia, possibly where Funspot is today. The start of Meredith Bay would be on the left and the point sticking out in the center left would be Spindle point. Pitchwood island is visible in the background at center right. Eagle island is on the right and the Ossipee mountains (Mount Roberts, etc) in the background.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it!

Dan

[trfour]

ishoot308 has solved the mystery!
So far, you have my vote!

[ApS]

Originally Posted by mcdude

NHKathy: Postcard photographers were often from out of town and had no idea what they were photographing so many times you get some amusing notes on the reverse the card. Keeping that in mind, this card is labeled "Pastoral Scene on Lake Winnipesaukee"

Besides the "clues" given ('Moo!' and 'Pastoral Scene on Lake Winnipesaukee'), there must be a postmark showing the post office location. The postmark would even show tiny post offices such as Melvin Village had in 1955.

I think that's Doctor's Island to the left, and the scene is Sebago Lake.

[mcdude]

Originally Posted by Acres per Second

... there must be a postmark showing the post office location....

I honestly have no idea where this photo was taken. I like the Rt. 109/Moultonboro/Tuftonboro idea only because I'm not familiar with that area and it doesn't look much like anything on this "end" of the lake. Postmark is from Wolfeboro.

Here's another one for you. Any ideas?


P.S. No Postmark

[Jonas Pilot]

It looks like Robert's Cove Road.

[Lakepilot]

Looks like Roberts Cove area. Looks like the point the Bahr's are on.

[woodswalk]

go with the morse farm area.

The more I follow this thread the more I second guess my first instinct.
DIVULGE!,
DIVULGE!
Your killin me Mc'D

Please? In the holiday spirit and all that?

[mcdude]

Originally Posted by woodswalk

DIVULGE!,
DIVULGE!
Your killin me Mc'D

Please? In the holiday spirit and all that?

woodswalk; I'm really, really sorry...I'm not trying to be a scrooge or a grinch......but I haven't a clue as to the location of the postcard....that's why I'm enlisting the aid of the forumites!

Here's a photo of Robert's Cove Road from a similar angle....what do you think?

[Dog's Ear]

Originally Posted by woodswalk

go with the morse farm area.

The more I follow this thread the more I second guess my first instinct.
DIVULGE!,
DIVULGE!
Your killin me Mc'D

Please? In the holiday spirit and all that?

Soon everyone will be able to enjoy the fantastic views from the Morse property. My Aunt Mary has donated a 431-acre reservation to the New Hampshire Forests. It is going to be named after my grandparents, Evelyn H. and Albert D. Morse Sr. Preserve. There is a beautiful view of Lake Winnipesaukee from the top of the Blueberry Hill. The Forest Society is still formulating its plan for the property, including public access logistics.

[RLW]

Originally Posted by Dog's Ear

Soon everyone will be able to enjoy the fantastic views from the Morse property. My Aunt Mary has donated a 431-acre reservation to the New Hampshire Forests. It is going to be named after my grandparents, Evelyn H. and Albert D. Morse Sr. Preserve. There is a beautiful view of Lake Winnipesaukee from the top of the Blueberry Hill. The Forest Society is still formulating its plan for the property, including public access logistics.

I am sure they are and it will take time and should, as there is some fantastic land there and one should be able to see it from the best locations. The next BIG project is to get the public to respect all of the land so that it will stay as close as possible to original beauty that it is now.
My thanks to Aunt Mary for her generosity.

[woodswalk]

Originally Posted by mcdude

woodswalk; I'm really, really sorry...I'm not trying to be a scrooge or a grinch......but I haven't a clue as to the location of the postcard....that's why I'm enlisting the aid of the forumites!

Here's a photo of Robert's Cove Road from a similar angle....what do you think?

I've tried both angles with google earth flattened out. I think both have stuff going for them when you consider the age and height of trees back then on the isles and mainland.

[BJAM]

The picture in question looks to me like it was taken at the Tuftonboro four corners, lookig towards Melvin Bay. Also on into Moultonboro.

[Senter Cove Guy]

Originally Posted by BJAM

The picture in question looks to me like it was taken at the Tuftonboro four corners, looking towards Melvin Bay. Also on into Moultonboro.

I took a ride up that way in early December to try and verify the view but was unable to do so. The tree line and houses hides the view of the lake. I was kind of disappointed because I was so sure that was the location.

I think we need FlyGuy to take a picture while flying low over Tuftonboro four corners to help us out.

Hey BJAM - Have you read the PM I sent you?

[Senter Cove Guy]

Every time I click on this thread, it positions me around post #5. No other thread does that to me. I view threads in reverse post order.

[islandAl]

Even when I clicked on the reply button, I was taken back to that early post.

[BJAM]

Originally Posted by Senter Cove Guy

I took a ride up that way in early December to try and verify the view but was unable to do so. The tree line and houses hides the view of the lake. I was kind of disappointed because I was so sure that was the location.

I think we need FlyGuy to take a picture while flying low over Tuftonboro four corners to help us out.

Hey BJAM - Have you read the PM I sent you?

I am not sure where to find the PM you sent me. Really new at this. But can still hit a softball a long ways.

[Waterbaby]

Originally Posted by BJAM

I am not sure where to find the PM you sent me. Really new at this. But can still hit a softball a long ways.

Scroll up to the top of the screen, and in the top right you will see a box with "Welcome BJAM", under that time and date of your last visit and under that "Private Messages: Unread #, Total #". Click on Private Messages and that'll bring up any you have. Have fun, and welcome to the forum!

[M/V_Bear_II]

Originally Posted by Senter Cove Guy

Every time I click on this thread, it positions me around post #5. No other thread does that to me. I view threads in reverse post order.

It's the google maps insert, with a cursor field. The page automatically scrolls to that field.

[BJAM]

Waterbaby, Thanks alot for the info. I will figure it out after awhile. It's fun so far.

[ApS]

Originally Posted by Senter Cove Guy

Every time I click on this thread, it positions me around post #5. No other thread does that to me. I view threads in reverse post order.

For this response, I had to put Argie's Wife on the "Ignore" list to make the Google-Map application disappear.

Originally Posted by Dog's Ear

"...Soon everyone will be able to enjoy the fantastic views from the Morse property. ..."

It is a remarkable gift: the Society is planning the trails right now.

Ten years ago, when Jane Difley became President, I sent her a piece of my personally-produced cloisonné artwork for her office in congratulations. (So I know she's been President for at least ten years).

In the winter issue of "Forest Notes", appears this accolade:

"This property is one of the finest acquisitions I’ve seen in my time at the Society,” said Forest Society President/Forester Jane Difley. 'Having been in the Morse family’s ownership for the past 135 years, the property comes to us with a rich family history and significant natural resources.'
http://www.spnhf.org/news/press-release.asp?id=194

Based on the Morse-gifted property photo of Lake Winnipesaukee in the Society's journal (page 24), the view IS spectacular! Fully half the lake from Diamond Island southeast appears in view—complementary to this one:

Every island can be identified without difficulty.

That Morse gift deserves its own thread, perhaps under "History".

So why can't we decide where on Lake Winnipesaukee this post card is from?

Is the "lump" in the foreground an island, or a shoreline prominence? If an island, which island?

Originally Posted by Patiently Watching

I think it is Rt. 109 in Tuftonboro between 20 Mile Bay and Melvin Village close to Copps Hill and the entrance to the old Wawbeek.

A singularly-spectacular view of the entire northern Winnipesaukee region can be seen with a drive up Copps Hill Road; however, the view should be similar to Abenaki Tower's, first looking East, then West:

I'm looking, but I can't see it....

[mcdude]

Having hiked around up on top of Pine Mt. (usually referred to as Alton Mt.) I can attest to the spectacular view of the lake from there. Many thanks to "Aunt Mary" for this spectacular gift!!

Yesterday after passing the Morse Farm and heading down the mountain I was struck by the view of the other side of the bay (the east side of Alton Bay). I recently posted about the proposed 42 lot subdivision planned over there. Although the permits are still not in place it appears that the developer has done about everything he can do to ready the land for development including road-building and lots of tree clearing....and what ever happened to the proposed cell phone tower?

Here's a shot taken by dcr from photopost looking NE from the top of Pine Mt.

"Looking NE over the northerly portion of Alton Bay to mountains of northern NH. L to R, the 4 islands seen are Parker, Ship, Little Mark and Moose"

[Pontoon Goon]

I agree with NHKATHY on the first picture.To me it sure does look like a shot from Parade Rd looking down to Waukewan. The second I feel more confident about. Heading south on Rt. 3 in Meredith just past the roundabout as you are heading down the hill towards Grouse Pt. that is the view. Gov. Is. dead ahead Spindle pt. on the left. Happy & healthy New Year to All.

[kaj]

Originally Posted by Senter Cove Guy

Every time I click on this thread, it positions me around post #5. No other thread does that to me. I view threads in reverse post order.

the same thing has been happening to me on just this thread for the past few days

[ApS]

Originally Posted by mcdude

"...Here's a photo of Robert's Cove Road from a similar angle......that's why I'm enlisting the aid of the forumites...!"

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The perspective is foreshortened due to a telephoto lens, but isn't this the same spot?

The roadbed and treeline are higher and the stone wall never looked so straight (and squared), but based on the large boulder in the field, the relationship of the furthest two utility poles, (one remaining tilted to starboard), not much has changed after sixty years.

It's a nice perspective on the lake: I'll just have to go and get my own photo of it!

Roberts Cove Road nostalgia.

[ILoveWinnipesaukee]

Originally Posted by Acres per Second

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the relationship of the furthest two utility poles, (one remaining tilted to starboard), not much has changed after sixty years.

It's a nice perspective on the lake: I'll just have to go and get my own photo of it!

Roberts Cove Road nostalgia.

When I look closer, the views do look similar, but in the original photo, the two poles seem to be on the same side of the street, where in your photo, it looks like they are on oposite sides.

[watrskir]

Originally Posted by ILoveWinnipesaukee

When I look closer, the views do look similar, but in the original photo, the two poles seem to be on the same side of the street, where in your photo, it looks like they are on oposite sides.

I believe the poles are on oposite sides. If you look past the left hand side of the car you can see the pole blending in with the trees. On the recent photo the second pole on the right (closest) in not in the photo.

[Resident 2B]

I am sold on this being the same place.

Nice work!

R2B

[Pokey]

Originally Posted by mcdude

Moo!

This card was postmarked in 1955. Can anyone identify the location?

From blinking light at corner store in Alton Bay take Rand Hill road to Alton Mountain road on your left , head up towards Sunset lake and about 3/4 of way to top of hiill look off to your right ...

[mg2107]

Mcdude> Piece o cake,Alton Mountain

[Waterbaby]

Originally Posted by Resident 2B

I am sold on this being the same place.

Nice work!

R2B

Excellent work, APS Holmes!

[Mr Port Jefferson]

Looks like White Oaks Farm Road to me