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Interesting that no one ever mentions the loss of business by local businesses due to bike week. There are many tourists and secondary home owners who refuse to come to the Lakes Region during bike week due to the traffic, noise and overall hassle. Try and get a realtor to show properties in Meredith, Laconia or Gilford when bike week is on. Many agents take bike week off since it is nearly impossible to get through all the traffic, especially at the Weirs. Has anyone talked to Thurstons or Channel to see how their business is during this period? Also, vendors from national companies take their money with them.
As year rounders, we accept bike week as a major but temporary disruption. It gets frustrating, however, to hear people brag about the economic benefits without understanding the negative economic aspects. |
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This event brings in HUNDREDS of MILLIONS of dollars to the local economy. And last but not least, I know several Hells Angels and they're pretty cool people law abiding people. If you're going to criticize tehm, post your name on your commentary. Whitey Bulger was just arrested after 16 years, one who was allowed to murder, push drugs, prostitution, gambling with the help of the FBI! |
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I don't like Key West. IF you like stepping in throw up in the morning before the streets are cleaned up-fine. I think it is a nasty town. Just my opinion.
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I find both of these statements to be horribly offensive, and thoroughly disgraceful.
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Judging by the lack of education that is evident in most all of his comments on this forum. There’s now more white trash down in Key West.
How many times has he been called for his lack ability to come up with replies that actually make any sense! I believe the original topic was about MC weekend and now he is all about the local businesses being trash. |
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Let's break this down.
Key West is a perpetual tourist machine. 365 days per year. Comparing Key West to Laconia is just silly. I don't care if you like Key West or not but its waaaay different in terms of crowds and logistics. You do realize how geopgraphically isolated it is I hope. You have business people on this forum wanting to subvert basic decency to make a buck. I'd rather take my money elsewhere. Open area drinking, ignore loud pipes, turn a blind-eye to flashing? And people wonder why I would *GASP* call anyone white trash? Oh really? Did anyone read what Sue-Doe-Nym posted? The Bike Week crowd will typically scoff at anyone who mentions the negatives of what it does to the area. As more and more development around the lake occurs, the Bike Week proponents better watch out as that is what will cause a displacement of the event. Boaters are prevented from rafting and freakin' anchoring within 150 ft of shore in several nice areas of the lakes. The Lakes Region businesses but get with the program and fight this kind of crap. I have many choices where to spend my recreational dollars. I have grown weary of what the lake has become. I believe this will be my last year at Winni as we've found better boating options. My family spends a fair amount of money at Winni each year for "sta-cations". Will it cause the area to collapse when we leave the lake, certainly not. However to any business owner that reads this, those dollars may now flow to someone other than you ![]() |
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![]() Edit for those who don't know about free speech laws in post below: Go look up Larry Flynt No value? I can find plenty of pictures from Bike Week that the webmaster would not even let me post that would prove my point. I speak the truth. If it hurts or hits close to home, not much I can do about it. |
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You have posted many opinions about Bike Week that don't make sense and are not supported by the facts. Many of your opinions are offensive to those of us with a substantial investment in the area. The additional revenue brought to the state and the region by Bike Week helps to keep the taxes lower than they would otherwise be. Don't forget, the NH economy is largely built on the visitors and seasonal residents who pay the road tolls, meals tax, hotel tax, liquor tax, gas tax and support all of our local businesses. Bike Week is part of that and it generates a lot of revenue. It also takes place before the season gets into full swing and helps to generate early revenue for businesses that might not survive without it. If you have found an area that you think better suits you then please go enjoy it! Hint: your absence will not be noticed! |
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Please tell me which business owners you are referring to. I have read this entire thread, and have not come across one post written by a business owner which in any way matches your statement. Please, enlighten me.
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Your comments about specific groups based on demographics or fraternities is uncouth, at best. You offend the wonderful folks who live and work and post here, and contribute many positive things - including their own time, money, and resources to help others here on this forum and the local communities. What have you done to make this community better other than offer your shallow opinion of it and its people? There's no value in pointing fingers when you yourself live in no place in Maine that's really any thing to brag about. If you have a problem with Weirs Beach, then OOB and The Pier are very similar. If I recall, you're in OOB or Scarboro (or Saco?) - at any rate, really, you're in a glass house, when you think about it... (Maine is my home state, for the record.) There's no value in baiting people with your posts like you do for attention - it's called trolling and whether you mean to do it or not, you are acting as a troll on this thread. You're getting negative attention from your offensive posts. There's amazing irony in your reference to Larry Flint's case and the issues you seem to have with Bike Week, The Weirs, Laconia, etc., as you cite this as "white trash" and all that... Funny, Flint was no model citizen himself... perhaps he would defend the very problem that you cite with Bike Week as "freedom of speech". ![]() Gee, suddenly the First Amendment card isn't so fun to play now, is it? This thread is about the attendance at Bike Week last week. Many folks attend, follow the laws/rules, and have a great time. And yes, there's a few who don't follow the laws and aren't good citizens - that's true with any large gathering of people - Additionally, with Bike Week, some businesses profit, and some don't, unfortunately, from what's been shared here. Bike Week has been going on for 88 years - I don't think it will be ending anytime soon - so why waste your time? Maybe the local businesses can work together to do something positive and constructive for the event - a win-win. After all, you've found greener pastures and wetter lakes, right? |
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Just curious, LP, are they the ones who organize the "Ride for Retards" ?
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Please people. Act intelligently.
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He is the ultimate decision maker regarding the content of this site (and does a good job of it). I think we all need some sun to improve our moods!! |
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You folks have totally missed the mark. Bike Week is no longer what it was during the peak of the easy money.
NH can market itself to do WAY better than Bike Week. Just because something has been done for "X" years means that's as good as you can get. We don't build cars like they did 88 years ago either ![]() Go look at annual revenues from boating and other tourism activies versus BW. Tons of events can be held that don't create the issues BW does and spread it out over the whole summer. There will be significant resistance to changing things around but it can be done. If anyone does not like my opinion, too bad. I am one of those "tourists" who gets to decide where to spend my money. Business is down because of the economy but also because everyone is tired of the same junk and activities at the Weirs. All I know is I can get reservations RIGHT NOW if I wanted too for July 4th weekend on the lake and have been able to do that for many places on Winni for a long time. Maybe the business community should take heed of what I am telling you. Lakefront development is changing the scenery if you get my drift. The Bike Week scene as it exists is a tired idea. Look around the country at other places that re-invented themselves rather than being lemmings. You can try and use me to vent your frustrations about why the numbers are down but Bike Week is not all win-win. Carry on Edit: For those on the fence about alternatives to Winni, look around. There are TONS of options right in NH (and many not in the Lakes Region). May not be as big but way more friendlier to boaters. Last edited by lawn psycho; 06-26-2011 at 05:48 PM. Reason: Parting thought |
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It sounds to me like BW has spread out quite a distance from the original epicenter of Laconia, and Weirs Beach. That's probably a good thing. It is what it is. Most seem to either like it or tolerate it, businesses obviously love it, and would love a bigger one
![]() There's something strange in this thread though, which goes way beyond the back and forth. Many that seem to be die hard BW fans seemed far removed from the contentious boating discussions, and not nearly as liberal in their allowances. I can certainly tell you from many years of experience, almost anywhere on the lake anytime is far more tame than BW is in the area. That's not a knock, just a statement of observation. Personally, I'd keep BW for sentimental value, and it's fun having a huge event. I'd also like to see the Weirs turn into something nice. But not plastic and fake nice like Meredith has become. |
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I read Samiam's post a few times and don't see where he is trying to subvert decency. It sounds like someone (me too) did not realize that when you tie up the rules change.
Regardless, Samiam owns businesses in Moultonborough and in no way profits from activities, decent or not, at the Weirs. |
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Whoa! I've been called many names from one side of the spectrum on this site. But this is totally absurd!
Most of the 'natives' in town are French. When I graduated from LHS, I was considered a minority as I was a 'limey'. That I can toleate but 'White Trash'?????? I would rather be called a 'murderer' than 'White Trash'! ![]()
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Perhaps you should have words with the owners of this website which is part of the "White Trash Networks": http://www.bikernews.org/wtn/news.php and do a quick search for Laconia. You can't make this stuff up. Laconia appears to be a Mecca for them as well. Like I've said, I think the whole Weirs area and Laconia are dumpy and certainly play into what happens during bike week. xie xie Last edited by lawn psycho; 06-28-2011 at 07:17 AM. Reason: Fix Link |
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So, here's a question that is appropriate for this thread, in my opinion.
Why is it that www.meredithbaynh.com is not too up-front about it being located in Laconia? Meredith Bay, a gated community, is 100% located within the City of Laconia, as far as I can tell, and the website is very happy to sprinkle the words Meredith Bay and Lake Winnipesaukee throughout its website but where-o-where does it say that it is located in Laconia? Instead of hiding that, Meredith Bay should be proud they are such a beautifull spot which is totally located in Laconia, and help to promote Laconia. Like, when a Meredith Bay property owner pays their semi-annual property tax bill, where-o-where does the money go? It goes to the City of Laconia! It sure does! Not one penny of the property tax check gets submerged into the meredith bay area of Lake Winnipesaukee; it all goes into Laconia. By the way, I like to use the www.laconialibrary.org and think it is a first class, A-plus, FREE public library service that's housed in a fantastic historic building!
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And, the Laconia Airport, www.laconiaairport.com/laa, is located 100% in Gilford? But, at least the Laconia Airport website has their Gilford address listed, easy-to-see, at the top of the website and doesn't hide that info like the www.meredithbaynh.com.
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A little math...
Over 1,000,000 motorcycles were sold in the US in 2007.... There's approximately 2,000 to 2,500 members of the Hells Angels.... ...and there's 17,131 residents in Laconia, NH (2010 census).... So, you've managed alienate over a million people.... But we've all "missed the mark"? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Last edited by Argie's Wife; 06-30-2011 at 09:45 AM. Reason: fix stats - had nh population # |
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Laconia go through some extreme population burst in 2010!
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(I used to go to the Weirs and hang out during Bike Week during the '80's. Now I feel like it's "been there, done that." I've been to the Paradise more recently to see Tiger Lily, but I'm too old now to deal with the crowds.)
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Lp, Up to 2,000 Hell's Angels and family members are expected in Laconia for an international gathering starting Wednesday and I understand they want to meet you. http://www.wmur.com/news/28671048/detail.html |
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