What do you DIS-like most about the lakes?

[fatlazyless]

Down Old North Main St., and down an un-named paved road, there is a large 40'x40'x15' tall, all red brick utility shed, that is the NH-Dept Environmental Services, Old North Main St sewerage pumping station.

There is no signs what-so-ever indicating a canoe/kayak launch, so's I parked out of the way, and walked down to the water's edge directly behind this sewerage shed, there, on this north end of Opechee Bay.

It is an incredibly beautiful lakefront location, behind this big sewerage shed, for launching a kayak, canoe or paddle board. The shoreline belongs to either the NH State Forest or the DES, and the lake bottom is a smooth shallow sandy bottom with pine trees growing right up to the shoreline waterfront area. The immediate area on the land is littered with a demolished temporary unknown small structure and all that crapola wants to be removed to the town dump, and the grounds need a good raking and debris removal.

There are two signs attached to trees that say 'No Camping' but according to these maps in the links, above, it is a designated, hand carry, canoe launch, State of NH location on this gorgeous north end of Opechee Bay.

Is now time to grab your kayak or sup and hit that Opechee Bay, down behind this big, ugly, DES sewerage pumping shed, down the bottom of Old North Main St.

All things considered, same is true for the launch ramp on the south end of Opechee, directly across from Irwin Ford-Toyota.

What I DIS-like is this fantastic, fabulous, beautiful Opechee Bay, State of NH ... https://www.wildlife.state.nh.us/map...ee_laconia.pdf ... location has apparently gone unused for launching kayaks, canoes and sups when it could be a VERY happening spot especially with its very smooth sandy bottom that very gradually gets a wee bit deeper as one paddles out there.

[John Mercier]

As far as I know, it is under the management of the Division of Forest and Lands.

They ''No Camping'' I think is about homeless people seeking shelter there. I'm told the other side of the lake has a lot of that happening off from the WOW trail.

[bruinsfan]

Massachusetts license plates

[Garcia]

Originally Posted by bruinsfan

Massachusetts license plates

Ouch - my feelings are hurt

I need to remember this post next time I ridicule the NY license plates in my MA town

[fatlazyless]

Originally Posted by John Mercier

As far as I know, it is under the management of the Division of Forest and Lands.

They ''No Camping'' I think is about homeless people seeking shelter there. I'm told the other side of the lake has a lot of that happening off from the WOW trail.

All that demolished homeless shanty debris scattered across the pine-treed woods between the Old North Main St, NH-DES sewerage pumping station and the beautiful, pristine, north end of Opechee Bay State Forest directly on Opechee Bay .... https://www.wildlife.state.nh.us/map...ee_laconia.pdf .... can be cleaned away in one day with three, hard-working, Laconia DPW guys and a truck ..... so's the DPW wants to get off its lazy butt, and get on it ...... hut-hut-hut!

What needs to happen here is the NH F & G wants to design and construct a hand carry, kayak & canoe launch site with parking, that wraps around this DES sewerage utilty shed and is similar to the F & G hand carry launch on Lake Pemigewasset in nearby New Hampton.

It would hit two birds with one shot, by replacing this secret stealthy homeless camping location with a hand carry launch ramp for kayaks, canoes, sups, and small row boats .... hut-hut-hut!

[John Mercier]

Generally,
Laconia will not expend any resources on State land...
And F&G will not expend any resources on land under another Division.

F&G uses power boat monies to build its parking areas and launches... so non-motorized may be an issue.

[SailinAway]

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

Is now time to grab your kayak or sup and hit that Opechee Bay,

What makes a body of water desirable for paddling? ANS: Scenic; lots of coves and islands to explore and to get out of the wind; few houses; places to land without trespassing on private property; clean water; few or no motor boats; not overrun with other paddlers; decent parking; good launch; large enough to occupy you for a few hours. Opechee wouldn't be my first choice for interesting paddling.

[John Mercier]

Originally Posted by SailinAway

What makes a body of water desirable for paddling? ANS: Scenic; lots of coves and islands to explore and to get out of the wind; few houses; places to land without trespassing on private property; clean water; few or no motor boats; not overrun with other paddlers; decent parking; good launch; large enough to occupy you for a few hours. Opechee wouldn't be my first choice for interesting paddling.

''First'' is less meaningful in this situation.
Your ''First'' choice could be ''overrun with other paddlers'' making Opechee move up the ranking.

[fatlazyless]

This north end location on 449-acre Opechee Bay ... www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opechee_Bay ..... of the existing NH-DES sewerage pump station already has a paved 300-yard long road that goes down to this state utility shed which is about 30-yards from the Opechee shoreline within the Opechee Bay State Forest.

Bond Beach is the only Laconia public swim area with lifeguards and it is not too far, across the Bay, from the DES sewerage pump shed, waterfront location.

The NH F&G and NH DES already have worked together in Laconia to create a boat launch on the Winnipesaukee River, close to Lake Winnisquam, so's they can do the same with this Opechee sewerage utilty shed and road with a hand carry launch and parking.

The smooth, shallow, sandy flat bottom in Opechee Bay at the sewerage pump shed location is ideal for beginners and everyone to get in a kayak, or paddle a sup, plus it is not too far to the lifeguards at Bond Beach.

Unlike most of Opechee Bay, the shoreline of the Opechee Bay State Forest is all pine trees with no residential homes, plus the 'lake' bottom is smooth, sandy, and shallow.

With an F & G hand carry launch, the Opechee Bay State Forest would no longer be so attractive to homeless stealth campers because it would be easier accessed by the Laconia Police.

Opechee Bay State Forest, NH-DES, and NH F&G are all State of NH agencies, while the City of Laconia co-exists with the State of NH. Laconia has a population of about 15000-residents, is promoted as the the "City on the Lakes" and paddling or rowing a small vessel is a very different type of personal activity than motor-boating.

http://www.laconianh.gov/899/State-o...ervation-Lands .... click arrow 4-times for map of Opechee Bay State Forest

www.laconianh.gov/1035/Bond-Beach ....... waz-up at Bond Beach!

[John Mercier]

The Lake Winnisquam launch was purchased by NH F&G using a fund that comes from boat registrations. The DES is required for the permitting of development that close to the lake.

NH Forests generally doesn't sell property... but could sell to NH F&G, but they would need some form of funding as boat registration dollars could not be used.

The DES would still need to be involved as to permitting for development next to the lake.

[map]

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

This north end location on 449-acre Opechee Bay ... www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opechee_Bay ..... of the existing NH-DES sewerage pump station already has a paved 300-yard long road that goes down to this state utility shed which is about 30-yards from the Opechee shoreline within the Opechee Bay State Forest.

Bond Beach is the only Laconia public swim area with lifeguards and it is not too far, across the Bay, from the DES sewerage pump shed, waterfront location.

The NH F&G and NH DES already have worked together in Laconia to create a boat launch on the Winnipesaukee River, close to Lake Winnisquam, so's they can do the same with this Opechee sewerage utilty shed and road with a hand carry launch and parking.

The smooth, shallow, sandy flat bottom in Opechee Bay at the sewerage pump shed location is ideal for beginners and everyone to get in a kayak, or paddle a sup, plus it is not too far to the lifeguards at Bond Beach.

Unlike most of Opechee Bay, the shoreline of the Opechee Bay State Forest is all pine trees with no residential homes, plus the 'lake' bottom is smooth, sandy, and shallow.

With an F & G hand carry launch, the Opechee Bay State Forest would no longer be so attractive to homeless stealth campers because it would be easier accessed by the Laconia Police.

Opechee Bay State Forest, NH-DES, and NH F&G are all State of NH agencies, while the City of Laconia co-exists with the State of NH. Laconia has a population of about 15000-residents, is promoted as the the "City on the Lakes" and paddling or rowing a small vessel is a very different type of personal activity than motor-boating.

http://www.laconianh.gov/899/State-o...ervation-Lands .... click arrow 4-times for map of Opechee Bay State Forest

www.laconianh.gov/1035/Bond-Beach ....... waz-up at Bond Beach!

I just got a senior beach parking pass from Laconia city clerk and it is not blue as described on the website. It’s orange. ?

[garysanfran]

Too windy, making it difficult to dock the boat.

[Donzi Minx]

The vegetation sprouting up from the bottom of the lake.
Rented at Moultonborough last year and was horrified swimming amongst the weeds.

[swnoel]

I don't dislike anything about the lakes, I dislike what people have done to them and the land surrounding them.

[sky's]

Originally Posted by swnoel

I don't dislike anything about the lakes, I dislike what people have done to them and the land surrounding them.

its only getting worse.

[SailinAway]

Originally Posted by John Mercier

''First'' is less meaningful in this situation.
Your ''First'' choice could be ''overrun with other paddlers'' making Opechee move up the ranking.

You have a point. In New Hampshire the otherwise most desirable paddling sites are also the most overrun. Hence Plan B: Maine, where it's possible to meet all of the criteria . . . if you have the time and gas money. Or Plan C: New Hampshire lakes at the crack o' dawn midweek. Same for hiking and skiing.

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by SailinAway

You have a point. In New Hampshire the otherwise most desirable paddling sites are also the most overrun. Hence Plan B: Maine, where it's possible to meet all of the criteria . . . if you have the time and gas money. Or Plan C: New Hampshire lakes at the crack o' dawn midweek. Same for hiking and skiing.

Yup, on the trail or water by 7 and off by noon. But that's a win-win because not only is it quieter, but the weather's better and the second half of the day is still open.

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[John Mercier]

Originally Posted by SailinAway

You have a point. In New Hampshire the otherwise most desirable paddling sites are also the most overrun. Hence Plan B: Maine, where it's possible to meet all of the criteria . . . if you have the time and gas money. Or Plan C: New Hampshire lakes at the crack o' dawn midweek. Same for hiking and skiing.

NH has a lot more sites than people recognize... hence why Opechee is not overrun.
It is the smaller non-commercialized lakes/ponds that have the more desirable experience.