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11-29-2016, 07:56 AM | #1 |
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Why so few tenders?
Another thread got me thinking about big boats and public docks. Instead of trying to find docks space for a 35+ footer, why not just anchor and use a tender to come ashore? That's "normal" pretty much everywhere, but I have never seen it happen on Winnipesaukee. You can always find dock space for a 10' RIB...
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Be ready to get flamed for this post. I asked the same question last year (anchor and kayak in) and everyone frowned on it. Despite it being perfectly legal!
That being said, I've considered it a few times. And you're exactly right, it's the norm most anywhere else. |
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I think it to would be a great idea, but to carry around a tender only for weekend lunches at town docks, etc. Is a bit much for me.
As it is, I feel we have way too many floaties, noodles and other water toys on board. Lol Maybe if more boats on the lake used tenders it would be a more popular option, but I don't think I would carry a tender only for this purpose. Maybe I'll borrow a canoe next season a couple of times and see how it works out.
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Another idea, someone could start a shuttle business. Boats anchor off, and someone could pick you up and drop you off for $10. I pay that every time!
Any entrepreneurs here?
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Restaurants should do that. I know the one in Back Bay will shuttle you from the docks, but if I'm at the docks already, walking is no big deal. I bet they'd pick you up at your boat, if you asked.
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you beat me to is, hell of a small summer business for a couple of teenagers
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A true tender is not registered and can only be used 'ship-shore.' This is legal in NH. Take a look at the Mount Washington. That little skimmer is a tender. It carries the mother-ships registration followed by "-1" to indicate it is tender #1 for that vessel. If the little boat were registered it would be a launch and you can do what you like with it. ---------------------- I can't remember if it's a law here but you my not be legal to leave an anchored boat unattended. You'll want to check on that. What might get you some grief is anchoring in a congested area. If you try this, I suggest you 'park' a good distance away along the shore and not in the traveled areas. Good luck! |
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Not Saying I don't agree with it..... but as soon as people start doing it, if they can, other will start objecting to it.... and the next thing we know a new boating regulation.... Now to expand upon this, I think for this to be successful business and towns would have to create public Mooring area's.... with fixed morning spots.... otherwise the calamity that would ensue would be horrible. On top of that there would have to be a minimum boat length to use the public mooring area, other wise your clown with an 18' bowrider that is impatient will use the mooring and swim in... etc. etc. etc
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This is a case where the captain sacrifices for his passengers. Drop them all off and let them do their thing while you go for a cruise or wait for a spot to open up. Tell them to bring you a lunch to go. I've seen every town on the lake 100 times anyway. I'd rather be on my boat.
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Most boats on the lake aren't big enough to carry a decent tender anyway, which is likely why you don't see this happening. Little true practicality, not enough large boats to have room for a tender.
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While I think having a tender operation from shore could be a great addition to some busy town docks (with a proper anchoring field of course), can you imagine, especially in this litigious society we live in, the liability on the tender operator / owner! Heaven forbid someone slips on the boat or falls in the water. There isn't a teenager around who could afford the insurance necessary to run such a business. It's a shame really....
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The Weirs should allow tendering off the beach area as the docks are too close to each other to use them efficiently. About two decades ago. I would anchor the boat of at the southern end of the docks before the beach. We would swim in. When we returned from our walk around the Weirs a marine cadet, (remember them?) was nearby and approach the boat as we boarded. Can't recall the exact words, but no one is to anchor off public docks in NH. He gave me a warning.
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That and, What percent of "captains" would you trust to anchor anywhere near you? They'd set it 50' away, 5 minutes later it would be wrapped around your boat twice and bouncing off another. Disaster waiting to happen. But, In theory it's a good idea.
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I built a remote control for my anchor windlass that operates with a key chain fob. I have not done it yet, but if I ever need to dock somewhere and there are no spots, I plan to Mediterranean moor off the end of a dock with crossed stern lines, and use the remote to tighten the rode after I step ashore. |
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Please bear in mind, I don't have a boat big enough to carry a tender, and when I get one (a Tollycraft 45 currently tops my list of live-aboard boats I am considering), it won't be kept on the lake. I only started this thread in response to another thread about a 30 foot boat, in which (the thread not the boat) there were a few responses about how difficult it is to find a spot for a 30+ foot boat at the town docks...
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My point was not for everyone to get a tender and use it at the town docks. I was just wondering why those that have boats big enough to carry a tender don't anchor out and use one. They could easily anchor 1/4 mile+ from the dock, motor in with dinghy, be completely out of the way, and never ever have trouble finding a place to tie up. I'm hoping someone will read this and think "oh, I should do that!" and then they would frequent the town docks more often, and the businesses around the town docks would get more revenue, and someone else would see them do it and copy them and the businesses would get even more revenue etc. Imagine if the inside/back slips at Weirs Beach were packed with 10 foot RIBs, each carrying two to four paying customers from anchored cruisers. The town could even install moorings if needed. That kind of money could do wonders for the area. |
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There usually are some restrictions about not anchoring near Weirs beach or off the Weirs town docks during bike week. From: http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rule.../saf-c400.html Quote:
http://www.laconiadailysun.com/commu...y-of-bike-week I also know there is a law about no anchoring overnight on NH inland waters. This wouldn't affect someone anchoring for a period of time, even after dark, just be sure your all around anchor light is on if it's after sundown. https://www.nh.gov/safety/divisions/...faq.html#sleep There also is a law about headway only speed within 150 ft of a dock, shore, etc. https://www.nh.gov/safety/divisions/....html#distance And no anchoring within 150 ft of shore in a 'no rafting zone'. (see Saf-C 407.01) http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rule.../saf-c400.html I could be wrong, but please, let's not start another lake myth. If it's true, please quote the source of this. I like to learn this stuff so I'm not caught off guard as, after all, ignorance of the law is no excuse. Perhaps it was a misunderstanding of the bike week restrictions, or it happened to be during bike week?
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As long as it's not in the path of boating traffic, otherwise it could be considered a hazard to navigation...
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Top notch captains
We've all seen some really top notch captains around the various town docks. I'm waiting for one of these guys to drive over your anchor rode and set your boat adrift, possible connected to his boat which is no longer maneuverable. I'm not worried about my boat. I have 150' of chain.
How about, instead of businesses supplying a shuttle, they all chip in and make the bridge into Back Bay a draw bridge? With a toll fee to pay them back? The expanded NWZ in Meredith makes a perfect set up for a mooring field, a commercial launch and/or a load/unload only dock. I don't think there's good room for a mooring field in Alton, Wolfeboro, Weirs. |
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Regarding space for mooring fields, Wolfeboro already has one near the docks and there's plenty of room to add more. The area between the Mount Washington dock and Sandy Point, west of the two spars in Alton Bay, could support a huge mooring field. Weirs could easily have a mooring field in the shallow water south of FL1. Not sure any moorings are really needed though, anchors are perfect for anchoring. |
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Here's another thought: Mediterranean Docking off the end of the docks in Wolfeboro or Merideth. Drop the anchor with appropriate scope. Back down toward the dock. Tie off the stern lines with a cross pattern; starboard stern cleat line to left dock post, and port stern cleat line to right dock post. Appropriate spring lines tied off and most slack taken off the anchor rode. (For me, my rode would be all chain! )
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I have, it requires "all hands on deck" to gently maneuver the boat into it's near impossible slip by "gently pushing off" the boats on either side -- an inordinate number of "fenders" are also employed. Given the 80/20 rule of seasoned Captains vs rookies -- this style of docking would be a DISASTER on Winni. I have a 3 minute video on my phone that I shot in Nice of just such a docking but can't figure out how to upload. .
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I do it all the time at a friend's lake place because his dock is too short for my boat. Not hard at all. |
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