Rattlesnakes? Are there any left? - Page 2

Resident 2B · 04-16-2007, 06:48 PM

RSH,

Biggest surprise of the week for me is that you are still allowed to post here!

Good luck with your effort to find areas still being used by the Timberback Rattlesnake. I respect you for that effort. There are some posts about these snakes on the web site for New England Mountain Bikers.

However, your confrontational posting style seems out-of-sync with most/all other posters on this site. Perhaps you would consider an immediate and sustained modification of your style. If not, perhaps you should decide to move on.

Good luck with your efforts to protect the snakes.

R2B

SteveA · 04-16-2007, 07:56 PM

You did a better job on this thread than I did on the "Bears" thread..

I agree that the orginal post was a worthy cause... Soo many people on here have been and continue to be advocates for the wildlife here in the Lakes Region.

I suspect RH got a little to focused on the "humor" some of us put into our posts... I've tripped on that same thing.. and was able to "back off" my agenda... and have a smile... What's that old saw... "More with honey......"

SteveA · 04-16-2007, 08:35 PM

Seems our RH has a bit of history... I'll bet it doesn't surprise anyone here..

http://forum.hike-nh.com/viewtopic.p...fde32f0ffe1a3b

http://rockgrrl.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaB...num=1174263314

http://www.topix.net/forum/city/sout...LUJSFB4KP04R6N

I guess we shouldn't feel picked on, he seems very sincere and dedicated in his quest..maybe it's just a style issue.

Sunrise Point · 04-16-2007, 08:45 PM

RSH

If I came across a Timber Rattler on my property, I wouldn't share the information with you. You may have had good intentions but your rants have certainly changed my mind. Endangered species don't need "champions" like you. You do more harm than good to the cause.

Skip · 04-16-2007, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveA

...I guess we shouldn't feel picked on, he seems very sincere and dedicated in his quest..maybe it's just a style issue...

Good point Steve.

But if one wonders if the "style" shown here may be detrimental to his cause, take a gander at this website about half way down the page titled "Kev's timber rant, January 2005" . Maybe its just me, but I didn't get any warm & fuzzy feelings after reading those few paragraphs!

SteveA · 04-16-2007, 10:26 PM

Skip..

Thanks for the post of Kevin's rant.... I still admire his passion.. I really do...

My wife and I are really into adopting older "shelter" cats... (few people will take them) It's our "thing". Snakes are his "Thing"... so like I said... his passion isn't a problem... it's in the delivery of his message.. We deal with all the "crazy cat people" ( ya.. OK... we have 8 cats!

) comments from friends and family with a smile... RH needs to learn that it dosen't matter what others think... and he needs to learn that his passion may not be understood by others. If he wants to spread the message... he needs to "put a little sugar" on it.

The way too old salesman in me could really help him if he would listen! :

Weirs guy · 04-17-2007, 12:33 PM

Agreed. If I point out to SteveA that cats taste just like chicken, or to Skip that LEO's do too, they know I'm pulling their legs. Or at least they hope I'm pulling their leg, but we all move on and let each others little oddities flavor the big mixing pot we have here. When Skip points out the chickeny goodness of snakes, we're baby seal clubbing terrorists who are out to pave the world with our 2nd grade education to RSH. But, I'm sure that to RSH its not his issue, its that the 50 or so of us who post here regularly are wrong.

So RSH, here it is. I offered what little help to you I could, even answering your pm to me and offering more help if needed. It was your choice after that to blast away with both guns and the tree hugging "the end is near" mentality we've seen here. For a 4x4 truck owning, mud slinging camping and fishing hick like myself your barking up the wrong tree. I'd go on, but I'd also like to be welcome here once your gone. Best of luck with your hunt!

Skip and Steve, the snake bites will be served the Saturday of Bike Weekend!

Gavia immer · 04-17-2007, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveA

Skip..
Thanks for the post of Kevin's rant.... I still admire his passion.. I really do...

Kevin's rant contains some "Live Free or Die".

Quote:

Attitude, rather than disposition, is more definitive of serpent behavior. From the moment they emerge into this world until they complete their life cycle, their attitude is

"Don't tread on me. I am well prepared to defend myself, but content to pass through life unnoticed. I mean no harm to anything or anyone that our creator has not proved as my bill of fare. I am self-sustaining, and I like it that way. Please pass me by." - Bill Haast

Bill Haast was frequently snakebit at his tourist reptile attraction and regularly donated his blood for anti-venin development.

Development takes 14,000 acres of New Hampshire's nature every year and New Hampshire's wildlife has to be somewhere.

SteveA · 04-18-2007, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weirs guy

Agreed. If I point out to SteveA that cats taste just like chicken, or to Skip that LEO's do too, they know I'm pulling their legs. Skip and Steve, the snake bites will be served the Saturday of Bike Weekend!

Weirsguy.... everything tastes like Chicken....

send me a P/M and I'll be there on Bike weekend.. I'll bring my famous Chilli... Hot but no cats or rattlesnakes...

Skip · 04-18-2007, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weirs guy

...Skip and Steve, the snake bites will be served the Saturday of Bike Weekend! ...

You keep inviting me and I just may have to show up!

RattlesnakeHunter · 04-19-2007, 08:23 PM

is alive and well here!

One point is that if you are let's say defending cats and someone says "don't they taste like chicken" you KNOW that is a joke. Snakes on the other hand get abused since most people are terrified of them for so many reasons; most of these snake fears are based on misinformation and tall tales.

As far as me doing more harm than good you are way off base there but it is an easy thing to say and the real good comes to education where I am top of the heap. We do many public reptile shows which are quite popular. Coming here is just my version of beating the bushes and hoping that there is something still out there. I might as well be looking for Wolves!
I may not always play nice in a sandbox of angry babies but I will still visit them.

As far as being a tree hugger or animal right's freak I am not. I do love animals and such but I understand there is a reality to all of this, all I try to do is slow the human impact on some of them.

Pick away!

Laura

SIKSUKR · 04-20-2007, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RattlesnakeHunter

As far as me doing more harm than good you are way off base there but it is an easy thing to say and the real good comes to education where I am top of the heap.

Laura

And very modest too.

ITD · 04-20-2007, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RattlesnakeHunter

is alive and well here!

One point is that if you are let's say defending cats and someone says "don't they taste like chicken" you KNOW that is a joke. Snakes on the other hand get abused since most people are terrified of them for so many reasons; most of these snake fears are based on misinformation and tall tales.

As far as me doing more harm than good you are way off base there but it is an easy thing to say and the real good comes to education where I am top of the heap. We do many public reptile shows which are quite popular. Coming here is just my version of beating the bushes and hoping that there is something still out there. I might as well be looking for Wolves!
I may not always play nice in a sandbox of angry babies but I will still visit them.

As far as being a tree hugger or animal right's freak I am not. I do love animals and such but I understand there is a reality to all of this, all I try to do is slow the human impact on some of them.

Pick away!

Laura

Projection my friend, projection. Anyway, you seem sincere about the snakes, I hope you have some success. I'm done.

Mee-n-Mac · 04-20-2007, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveA

Weirsguy.... everything tastes like Chicken....

send me a P/M and I'll be there on Bike weekend.. I'll bring my famous Chilli... Hot but no cats or rattlesnakes...

I can state with authority that alligator tastes like chicken.

I believe that wolves do not.

I'm not sure about angry babies. (or even complacent ones) I'll do some "research" and see what I can find out.

RattlesnakeHunter · 04-23-2007, 07:53 AM

Alligator tastes a bit like chicken but a bit chewier. I have tried it, the difference is that they are FARMED. I also keep them as pets and my biggest one is close to 9'! He is a WONDERFUL animal to say the least, nothing what people would expect from an alligator!

All Rattlesnakes used as food are collected from the wild generally at or near their winter den area. This means they are easily exploited and entire populations can be wiped out with little effort.

I can only wish there were still Wolves in NH.

Earwig

Mark · 04-23-2007, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mee-n-Mac

I can state with authority that alligator tastes like chicken.

I believe that wolves do not.

I'm not sure about angry babies. (or even complacent ones) I'll do some "research" and see what I can find out.

I heard that they taste a lot like rattlesnake. Seriously.

RattlesnakeHunter · 01-21-2008, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yankee

Kevin,

I have seen a Timber Rattler, or what looks like one coiled up under some big rocks that make up one of my stone walls. I highly suggest that you wander the Scruton Conservation Easement that lies just west of Blue Job Mountain in Farmington. That area has some old growth forest and the lower areas appear to have been never abused by man.

Do you think it had a Rattle....the area is quite a place and I have heard a few stories but this rekindles my interest..

THanks....I forgot to come back here to see if anyone had anything good to tell..

Thanks - -Kevin

04-16-2007, 06:48 PM	#101
Resident 2B Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: North Shore, MA Posts: 1,358 Thanks: 996 Thanked 314 Times in 164 Posts	Still Around? RSH, Biggest surprise of the week for me is that you are still allowed to post here! Good luck with your effort to find areas still being used by the Timberback Rattlesnake. I respect you for that effort. There are some posts about these snakes on the web site for New England Mountain Bikers. However, your confrontational posting style seems out-of-sync with most/all other posters on this site. Perhaps you would consider an immediate and sustained modification of your style. If not, perhaps you should decide to move on. Good luck with your efforts to protect the snakes. R2B

04-16-2007, 07:56 PM	#102
SteveA Deceased Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gilford, NH Posts: 2,311 Thanks: 1,070 Thanked 2,054 Times in 497 Posts	Nice Post R2B You did a better job on this thread than I did on the "Bears" thread.. I agree that the orginal post was a worthy cause... Soo many people on here have been and continue to be advocates for the wildlife here in the Lakes Region. I suspect RH got a little to focused on the "humor" some of us put into our posts... I've tripped on that same thing.. and was able to "back off" my agenda... and have a smile... What's that old saw... "More with honey......" __________________ "Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry he'll be a mile away and barefoot!" unknown

04-16-2007, 08:35 PM	#103
SteveA Deceased Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gilford, NH Posts: 2,311 Thanks: 1,070 Thanked 2,054 Times in 497 Posts	Interesting Seems our RH has a bit of history... I'll bet it doesn't surprise anyone here.. http://forum.hike-nh.com/viewtopic.p...fde32f0ffe1a3b http://rockgrrl.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaB...num=1174263314 http://www.topix.net/forum/city/sout...LUJSFB4KP04R6N I guess we shouldn't feel picked on, he seems very sincere and dedicated in his quest..maybe it's just a style issue. __________________ "Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry he'll be a mile away and barefoot!" unknown

04-16-2007, 08:45 PM	#104
Sunrise Point Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Meredith Center / Winnisquam Posts: 250 Thanks: 87 Thanked 34 Times in 21 Posts	Your own worst enemy.. RSH If I came across a Timber Rattler on my property, I wouldn't share the information with you. You may have had good intentions but your rants have certainly changed my mind. Endangered species don't need "champions" like you. You do more harm than good to the cause.

04-16-2007, 10:26 PM	#106
SteveA Deceased Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gilford, NH Posts: 2,311 Thanks: 1,070 Thanked 2,054 Times in 497 Posts	Asked and Answered Skip.. Thanks for the post of Kevin's rant.... I still admire his passion.. I really do... My wife and I are really into adopting older "shelter" cats... (few people will take them) It's our "thing". Snakes are his "Thing"... so like I said... his passion isn't a problem... it's in the delivery of his message.. We deal with all the "crazy cat people" ( ya.. OK... we have 8 cats! ) comments from friends and family with a smile... RH needs to learn that it dosen't matter what others think... and he needs to learn that his passion may not be understood by others. If he wants to spread the message... he needs to "put a little sugar" on it. The way too old salesman in me could really help him if he would listen! : __________________ "Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry he'll be a mile away and barefoot!" unknown

04-17-2007, 12:33 PM	#107
Weirs guy Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Weirs Beach, NH Posts: 1,067 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Agreed. If I point out to SteveA that cats taste just like chicken, or to Skip that LEO's do too, they know I'm pulling their legs. Or at least they hope I'm pulling their leg, but we all move on and let each others little oddities flavor the big mixing pot we have here. When Skip points out the chickeny goodness of snakes, we're baby seal clubbing terrorists who are out to pave the world with our 2nd grade education to RSH. But, I'm sure that to RSH its not his issue, its that the 50 or so of us who post here regularly are wrong. So RSH, here it is. I offered what little help to you I could, even answering your pm to me and offering more help if needed. It was your choice after that to blast away with both guns and the tree hugging "the end is near" mentality we've seen here. For a 4x4 truck owning, mud slinging camping and fishing hick like myself your barking up the wrong tree. I'd go on, but I'd also like to be welcome here once your gone. Best of luck with your hunt! Skip and Steve, the snake bites will be served the Saturday of Bike Weekend! __________________ Is it bikeweek yet? Now?

04-19-2007, 08:23 PM	#111
RattlesnakeHunter Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Plaistow - NH Posts: 34 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	The land of Political correctness is alive and well here! One point is that if you are let's say defending cats and someone says "don't they taste like chicken" you KNOW that is a joke. Snakes on the other hand get abused since most people are terrified of them for so many reasons; most of these snake fears are based on misinformation and tall tales. As far as me doing more harm than good you are way off base there but it is an easy thing to say and the real good comes to education where I am top of the heap. We do many public reptile shows which are quite popular. Coming here is just my version of beating the bushes and hoping that there is something still out there. I might as well be looking for Wolves! I may not always play nice in a sandbox of angry babies but I will still visit them. As far as being a tree hugger or animal right's freak I am not. I do love animals and such but I understand there is a reality to all of this, all I try to do is slow the human impact on some of them. Pick away! Laura

04-23-2007, 07:53 AM	#115
RattlesnakeHunter Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Plaistow - NH Posts: 34 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Alligator tastes a bit like chicken but a bit chewier. I have tried it, the difference is that they are FARMED. I also keep them as pets and my biggest one is close to 9'! He is a WONDERFUL animal to say the least, nothing what people would expect from an alligator! All Rattlesnakes used as food are collected from the wild generally at or near their winter den area. This means they are easily exploited and entire populations can be wiped out with little effort. I can only wish there were still Wolves in NH. Earwig