Taxes - Page 2

John Mercier · 06-11-2025, 02:06 PM

Honestly, I don't know.
We have 25 unincorporated places.

https://www.revenue.nh.gov/sites/g/f...-tax-rates.pdf

If you look at Atkinson & Gilmanton Academy Grant (U) that would may be what the court means.
I am guessing they mean the Municipal Rate should be Zero, County Tax Rate should be 2.53 and the Statewide Education Tax Rate should be the 1.22 turned over to the State of NH due to having no local education.

But I am guessing at best.

Tofu · 06-11-2025, 02:36 PM

LOL, I guess Nitrovandam saw this back in 2019 and called it. Big out of state money moving INTO New Hampshire as caused this issue. It has cost many of the older NH residence to be sold off like you are explaining now about having to sale your Waterfront homes because of cost. And most on here came from another state, and came here with a vast amount of spendable cash bumping old time NH citizens out of their homes because of increase in their taxes etc etc.

This is just KARMA, Coming back around and now effecting you. Its funny how life always comes in a 360 degree circle. Now it's your time to take it on the hiney like NH people had to, and you don't find it very comforting. When Karma bites, it usually leaves a mark.

What Goes around .... Comes around. Please just keep paying until you can't. Then as someone mentioned, You can move to Maine for a few years to take advantage of the lower cost there... UNTIL you can't. Then if Canada becomes our 51st State that would be an option to look at. They have more water frontage then Maine has.

tis · 06-11-2025, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Mercier

Honestly, I don't know.
We have 25 unincorporated places.

https://www.revenue.nh.gov/sites/g/f...-tax-rates.pdf

If you look at Atkinson & Gilmanton Academy Grant (U) that would may be what the court means.
I am guessing they mean the Municipal Rate should be Zero, County Tax Rate should be 2.53 and the Statewide Education Tax Rate should be the 1.22 turned over to the State of NH due to having no local education.

But I am guessing at best.

I have a feeling we are not alone. Nobody is explaining it, just reporting it.

John Mercier · 06-12-2025, 08:01 AM

I think because, if I read it correctly, its effect would be mainly on Coos County.
That is where the majority of the unincorporated places are.

For the rest of us, it seems the system that we have used for this is staying put.
So local taxes shouldn't be affected by the decision.

longislander · Yesterday, 07:42 AM

https://greatnorthernink.wordpress.c...ce=chatgpt.com

Also,

" ... allowing negative local tax rates under the Statewide Education Property Tax (SWEPT)—which effectively resulted in unincorporated places paying nothing—was unconstitutional. The Court declared that policy violates Part II, Article 5 of the New Hampshire Constitution, because it undermines the requirements of “equal valuation and uniform rate throughout the State”

" ... found that the practice of setting "negative tax rates" for the Statewide Education Property Tax (SWEPT) in unincorporated towns without school districts is unconstitutional. These negative rates allowed such towns to offset their SWEPT tax, effectively raising no revenue for education, which the court deemed a violation of the state constitution’s requirement for uniform taxation under Part II, Article 5.

"What this means
Short term: Unincorporated places that currently have negative SWEPT rates remain in limbo. They’re still effectively exempt from paying, until lawmakers step in.

Next steps: The legislature and governor are tasked with crafting reforms to ensure all properties are taxed fairly in accordance with constitutional standards.

Broader implications: The decision does not impact the larger Rand case challenging the adequacy of New Hampshire’s school funding formula—such matters are still working through the courts and are expected to influence future funding policy

Bottom line: Negative tax rates under the SWEPT scheme are now ruled unconstitutional. The state has until the legislative process plays out to fix the law and ensure consistent, uniform taxation statewide."

06-11-2025, 02:06 PM	#101
John Mercier Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Posts: 3,398 Thanks: 3 Thanked 598 Times in 494 Posts	Honestly, I don't know. We have 25 unincorporated places. https://www.revenue.nh.gov/sites/g/f...-tax-rates.pdf If you look at Atkinson & Gilmanton Academy Grant (U) that would may be what the court means. I am guessing they mean the Municipal Rate should be Zero, County Tax Rate should be 2.53 and the Statewide Education Tax Rate should be the 1.22 turned over to the State of NH due to having no local education. But I am guessing at best.

06-11-2025, 02:36 PM	#102
Tofu Member Join Date: Sep 2024 Posts: 26 Thanks: 6 Thanked 16 Times in 11 Posts	LOL, I guess Nitrovandam saw this back in 2019 and called it. Big out of state money moving INTO New Hampshire as caused this issue. It has cost many of the older NH residence to be sold off like you are explaining now about having to sale your Waterfront homes because of cost. And most on here came from another state, and came here with a vast amount of spendable cash bumping old time NH citizens out of their homes because of increase in their taxes etc etc. This is just KARMA, Coming back around and now effecting you. Its funny how life always comes in a 360 degree circle. Now it's your time to take it on the hiney like NH people had to, and you don't find it very comforting. When Karma bites, it usually leaves a mark. What Goes around .... Comes around. Please just keep paying until you can't. Then as someone mentioned, You can move to Maine for a few years to take advantage of the lower cost there... UNTIL you can't. Then if Canada becomes our 51st State that would be an option to look at. They have more water frontage then Maine has.

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06-12-2025, 08:01 AM	#104
John Mercier Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Posts: 3,398 Thanks: 3 Thanked 598 Times in 494 Posts	I think because, if I read it correctly, its effect would be mainly on Coos County. That is where the majority of the unincorporated places are. For the rest of us, it seems the system that we have used for this is staying put. So local taxes shouldn't be affected by the decision.

Yesterday, 07:42 AM	#105
longislander Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Moultonborough Posts: 546 Thanks: 49 Thanked 100 Times in 75 Posts	https://greatnorthernink.wordpress.c...ce=chatgpt.com Also, " ... allowing negative local tax rates under the Statewide Education Property Tax (SWEPT)—which effectively resulted in unincorporated places paying nothing—was unconstitutional. The Court declared that policy violates Part II, Article 5 of the New Hampshire Constitution, because it undermines the requirements of “equal valuation and uniform rate throughout the State” " ... found that the practice of setting "negative tax rates" for the Statewide Education Property Tax (SWEPT) in unincorporated towns without school districts is unconstitutional. These negative rates allowed such towns to offset their SWEPT tax, effectively raising no revenue for education, which the court deemed a violation of the state constitution’s requirement for uniform taxation under Part II, Article 5. "What this means Short term: Unincorporated places that currently have negative SWEPT rates remain in limbo. They’re still effectively exempt from paying, until lawmakers step in. Next steps: The legislature and governor are tasked with crafting reforms to ensure all properties are taxed fairly in accordance with constitutional standards. Broader implications: The decision does not impact the larger Rand case challenging the adequacy of New Hampshire’s school funding formula—such matters are still working through the courts and are expected to influence future funding policy Bottom line: Negative tax rates under the SWEPT scheme are now ruled unconstitutional. The state has until the legislative process plays out to fix the law and ensure consistent, uniform taxation statewide."