Town Docks, Meredith

[Phantom]

With the discussions in the other thread about being shocked with The Woodshed "Specials"...…. I felt compelled to open this thread and share a related experience at a different location.

On this past Saturday, with my two young grand girls up to Lake, we ventured into Meredith by boat as they always enjoy a trip to Dockside when they visit. Low & behold the single slip in front of the restaurant had an opening & one would think this was the beginning of our lucky day. As it was just past noontime, we did have to wait about 10-15 minutes (no big deal), but once seated noticed the waiting line had stretched enormously and again said to ourselves "our lucky day" we got here just in time!


Two simple hamburgers, one simple cheeseburger & a Ranch Chicken wrap (which clearly someone forgot the Ranch dressing), one side of fries which we all split--Two cokes, one water, and for myself two "Drinks" ( Tequila Sunrise to be specific - not exotic) the bill came and I about fell off the picnic table ………….. $84.00 (pre tip) !!


TOTALLY written off Dockside ………….. and we have ALWAYS been a huge fan and always have brought guests there. Clearly Common Man is now focused on Fleecing the tourists (which were in abundance there Saturday) !! Good Luck -- I'm out !



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[thinkxingu]

Are you referring to Town Docks?

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[Phantom]

yes

Sorry, the kids always call it dockside

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[kawishiwi]

...must've been REALLY special!

What was the cost of a single cheese burger?

[Phantom]

http://www.thecman.com/uploads/05_29...nal%20menu.pdf

$55 worth of meal - which means they ripped me for $14+ each for the (2) drinks which came in a 8oz plastic cup.

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[camp guy]

Next time you go to Meredith, go to George's Diner - not a whole lot of atmosphere, but great food, and lots of it, and a reasonable price.

[Phantom]

Know it well ……… thanks

We use that for Breakfast with the kidz

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[Poor Richard]

Yep, expensive place to eat for sure. Last time we were there I think we covered $50 for an appetizer, buffalo wings, a hot dog, fries and a couple sodas.

Been there on several occasions and the food quality did not line up with the pricing on each visit so we stopped going.

[thinkxingu]

^ Agreed, but it's horrible to have to avoid such a great location.

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[Major]

Originally Posted by thinkxingu

^ Agreed, but it's horrible to have to avoid such a great location.

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. . . Thinkxingu and I can agree on something. My wife and I (sometimes with our boys who are adults) go to Town Docks and Naswa, which I would put in the same category, a few times during the summer because we have a lot of fun. Typically we meet up with friends, have a few cocktails, and enjoy the great views. We don't expect it to be a cheap date, nor do we expect the food to be good. That said, Naswa's food is better than Town Docks, but not great. It's part of our summer traditions, which we wouldn't change for anything.

[joey2665]

This thread comes up every so often and the result is the same. The food is ok with high prices, not great but the atmosphere is awesome and that's what you are paying for....
Location, location, location. Your not getting that view from George's. It is a balance between better food or awesome view and never the twain shall meet

[Phantom]

Originally Posted by joey2665

Your not getting that view from George's. It is a balance between better food or awesome view and never the twain shall meet

Joey - I must point out that the "twain can meet" …………

A few examples:

Lyon's Den for Lunch / Dinner (slip at Glendale Public dock)
Shipley's
Garwoods on the deck
Akwa Marine Bar ( a little on the pricey side)





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[joey2665]

Strictly talking about Town Docks. I had lunch at garwoods yesterday sat outside and was awesome as usual and I am a member at Akwa Vista and had a great dinner there last week and the desserts are fantastic.

I know it’s taboo but I think Lyons Den is just ok not great but I have yet to have the duck.


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[The Real BigGuy]

My wife and I love the bar side of Lyons Den. She has been to the dining room side (I have not) and her reaction was the same as joey2665’s, right down to the duck comment.


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[baygo]

Originally Posted by Phantom

yes

Sorry, the kids always call it dockside

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Might be a good idea to edit the title if that can be done. There is a Dockside Restaurant on the lake.

[Biggd]

My wife and I go out for dinner every Friday and Saturday night in the lakes region and this season more than most in the past I'm being disappointed by some of my old favorites and surprised by a few that were off my list in the past.
One place that I was not impressed with before but I been impressed with since the remodel is Canoe.
Town Docks are what they are, more of a destination on the lake. If you're going there for the food you picked the wrong place. They do have some good refreshing drinks.
It's a sign of the times. good help is hard to come by this season. A quality cooking staff and wait staff can make or break a restaurant.

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by baygo

Might be a good idea to edit the title if that can be done. There is a Dockside Restaurant on the lake.

Baygo, how did your boil pack competition go at the Muskrats game?

[JADAQ]

I agree, Town docks is an absolute common man rip off.
All of them, food served mostly out of a #10 can.
We ate at “Camp” across the street and the steak tip portion wasn’t even big enough to feed my 3 year old.
I complained and they comped the meal and gave us a gift card to come back.

George’s is definitely a reasonable place.

[baygo]

Originally Posted by joey2665

Baygo, how did your boil pack competition go at the Muskrats game?

A huge success! Espseciaally since it was held with short notice. Thank you for asking. Over 2/3rds who ate had never been to a Muskrats game before. Leslie and Kevin really enjoyed stirring the pot together. We sold out but ran to Hannafords and got more shrimp to meet demand.

We plan on making it an annual 4th of July weekend event.

On a side but related note; July 27th (a fitting date) is the last home game. All the beer and wine I've purchased for the games has been on a separate licence and can only be sold at the games. Whatever I don't sell, I'm stuck with. To reduce inventory I will be holding a liquid liquidation sale at the last game. Everyone who makes a purchase from Trolley 27 before the end of the 4th inning will be eligible for rapidly declining beer and wine prices during the 6th and 7th inning.

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by baygo

A huge success! Espseciaally since it was held with short notice. Thank you for asking. Over 2/3rds who ate had never been to a Muskrats game before. Leslie and Kevin really enjoyed stirring the pot together. We sold out but ran to Hannafords and got more shrimp to meet demand.

We plan on making it an annual 4th of July weekend event.

On a side but related note; July 27th (a fitting date) is the last home game. All the beer and wine I've purchased for the games has been on a separate licence and can only be sold at the games. Whatever I don't sell, I'm stuck with. To reduce inventory I will be holding a liquid liquidation sale at the last game. Everyone who makes a purchase from Trolley 27 before the end of the 4th inning will be eligible for rapidly declining beer and wine prices during the 6th and 7th inning.

That is awesome. I will try for next week. Who won the competition? Leslie or Kevin

[baygo]

Originally Posted by joey2665

That is awesome. I will try for next week. Who won the competition? Leslie or Kevin

They each refused to accept it as a competition. They just wanted it to be about their love for cooking. The Muskrats and our community were the real winners.

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by baygo

They each refused to accept it as a competition. They just wanted it to be about their love for cooking. The Muskrats and our community were the real winners.

Thats awesome. Congratulations on a successful event

[donnamatrix]

Try the Lakeshore Deli at corner of Meredith Neck and Route 25. Outside seating ... fabulous food, reasonable prices. Bring your dog as long as you dine outside. They make a Turkey Reuben that is to die for

[baygo]

Originally Posted by donnamatrix

Try the Lakeshore Deli at corner of Meredith Neck and Route 25. Outside seating ... fabulous food, reasonable prices. Bring your dog as long as you dine outside. They make a Turkey Reuben that is to die for

I think its "Lakeside Deli". It's been a while but the last time I was there I really enjoyed my Rueben.

[Biggd]

Originally Posted by baygo

I think its "Lakeside Deli". It's been a while but the last time I was there I really enjoyed my Rueben.

Good food and good service. It's not exactly cheap but it's a great alternative to town docks but doesn't have the same lively atmosphere. It all depends on what your looking for. My wife and I go there quite often because we can bring our dog. I believe they are only open until 3pm.

[noreast]

Originally Posted by baygo

Might be a good idea to edit the title if that can be done. There is a Dockside Restaurant on the lake.

I agree, The Dock side looks like a little hell hole but I've had some damn good food there. I bet many people haven't gone in based on the looks. Edit to say in Alton Bay, Have never been to the dockside grill in Wolfeboro.

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by noreast

I agree, The Dock side looks like a little hell hole but I've had some damn good food there. I bet many people haven't gone in based on the looks. Edit to say in Alton Bay, Have never been to the dockside grill in Wolfeboro.

Not Alton Bay, Title needs to be changed to Town Docks Restaurant, Meredith which is the place the OP is referring to

[noreast]

Yeah I just wanted to support the incorrectly named establishment. I try my best not to go to town docks.

[gravy boat]

Dockside in Alton Bay incredible every time we go - several times/season.
Never been to Town Docks but hear good feedback from cousins that frequent.

[GBGX2]

Same family ownership, very good food and pleasant and accommodating staff.

Our go to spot for over the top haddock sandwiches! Quality and quantity!

[BroadHopper]

I have to agree that Rusty/Alex chain of restaurants are expensive and became a tourist destination.
George Diner for breakfast and Frog Rock for evening meal is my go to.
The Lakeshore Deli is an excellent place to bring folks not familiar with the area.

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by BroadHopper

I have to agree that Rusty/Alex chain of restaurants are expensive and became a tourist destination.

George Diner for breakfast and Frog Rock for evening meal is my go to.

The Lakeshore Deli is an excellent place to bring folks not familiar with the area.

I don’t find all their restaurants to be tourist traps. Town Docks is a trap but I do go there at least once a season to eat and the ice cream
is awesome. Lago is overpriced also although my kids love Lago. I do love Camp especially with the renovation and expansion. Good comfort food, great bar and prices aren’t terrible.


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[BroadHopper]

Originally Posted by joey2665

I don’t find all their restaurants to be tourist traps. Town Docks is a trap but I do go there at least once a season to eat and the ice cream is awesome.

Speaking of ice cream, have you tried Jordan's? Best in the area. Available at Funspot and limited selection at the Weir's Pier.

Many folks drive 106 home to get their Jordan's fix!

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by BroadHopper

Speaking of ice cream, have you tried Jordan's? Best in the area. Available at Funspot and limited selection at the Weir's Pier.



Many folks drive 106 home to get their Jordan's fix!

I did. It’s very good but we like Town Docks better and they have the best hot fudge.


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[Biggd]

Originally Posted by joey2665

I don’t find all their restaurants to be tourist traps. Town Docks is a trap but I do go there at least once a season to eat and the ice cream
is awesome. Lago is overpriced also although my kids love Lago. I do love Camp especially with the renovation and expansion. Good comfort food, great bar and prices aren’t terrible.


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I agree, I think they do a good job running their establishments. That's why they are successful. My wife and I go to Lago's regularly and when the kids are up it's Town Docks or the Camp. We buy a $1000 gift card in December because it's 20% off. It's usually spent before the summer begins.
The bar tender at Lago's told me they have one customer that buys a $20,000 gift card every December.

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by Biggd

I agree, I think they do a good job running their establishments. That's why they are successful. My wife and I go to Lago's regularly and when the kids are up it's Town Docks or the Camp. We buy a $1000 gift card in December because it's 20% off. It's usually spent before the summer begins.

The bar tender at Lago's told me they have one customer that buys a $20,000 gift card every December.

Wow. That’s a great deal. Think I will do that also.


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[Biggd]

Originally Posted by joey2665

Wow. That’s a great deal. Think I will do that also.


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I think they increase the discount thru December, it starts out smaller then increases as the month goes along. You have to wait until the last week to get the best deal.

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by Biggd

I think they increase the discount thru December, it starts out smaller then increases as the month goes along. You have to wait until the last week to get the best deal.

As always thank you. I will definitely do that.


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[Biggd]

Originally Posted by joey2665

As always thank you. I will definitely do that.


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You can buy it right on their website. I'm trying to convince my wife to up it to $2000 this year.

[Phantom]

Originally Posted by joey2665

Not Alton Bay, Title needs to be changed to Town Docks Restaurant, Meredith which is the place the OP is referring to

Unfortunately I cannot "Edit" my original misnaming in the "Subject" line.
(or at least I can't figure it out …. it's not simply using the "edit" button)

Don - can you help ?


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[Meredith AK]

Actually, the discount is the other way around. It DECREASES as it gets closer to Christmas. Typically around Dec 3rd or so it's 20%, then 10% off 10 days later, etc. So shop early December for best discount. I typically pick up 6 $50 ones for gifts or a bit of a break on the bill when we're out for a few drinks and apps.

[Biggd]

Originally Posted by Meredith AK

Actually, the discount is the other way around. It DECREASES as it gets closer to Christmas. Typically around Dec 3rd or so it's 20%, then 10% off 10 days later, etc. So shop early December for best discount. I typically pick up 6 $50 ones for gifts or a bit of a break on the bill when we're out for a few drinks and apps.

Thanks for that, I couldn't remember how that worked. All I know is that I got 20% off the past 2 seasons. At least it cover the tips.

[webmaster]

Originally Posted by baygo

I think its "Lakeside Deli". It's been a while but the last time I was there I really enjoyed my Rueben.

The Lakeside Deli & Grill provided the location for our 2012 ForumFest and the food and location were fantastic. It was a very windy day which held the attendance down but the deli setup a nice buffet outside and I think everyone enjoyed it. Click here for some pictures:

https://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums...d.php?p=191016

[jbolty]

Originally Posted by Phantom

Unfortunately I cannot "Edit" my original misnaming in the "Subject" line.
(or at least I can't figure it out …. it's not simply using the "edit" button)

Don - can you help ?


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Click Edit, then Go Advanced and you should be able to edit the title

[Phantom]

Tried that and all it did was change Subject in my first post -- not Thread Header


Grrrrrrrrr.


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[brk-lnt]

Originally Posted by Biggd

I agree, I think they do a good job running their establishments. That's why they are successful. My wife and I go to Lago's regularly and when the kids are up it's Town Docks or the Camp. We buy a $1000 gift card in December because it's 20% off. It's usually spent before the summer begins.
The bar tender at Lago's told me they have one customer that buys a $20,000 gift card every December.

Fratello's used to do the same thing, where you would buy a gift card, and then they would give you a 2nd card that had an additional 20% on it.

We used to buy $500 cards to both Common Man and Fratello's every year. The Common Man one starts at 20% off, and then the discount amount decreases, so best to buy it as soon as they put the sale up.

[Biggd]

Originally Posted by brk-lnt

Fratello's used to do the same thing, where you would buy a gift card, and then they would give you a 2nd card that had an additional 20% on it.

We used to buy $500 cards to both Common Man and Fratello's every year. The Common Man one starts at 20% off, and then the discount amount decreases, so best to buy it as soon as they put the sale up.

Speaking of Fratello's my wife and I went to the Homestead on rt104 Saturday night, which is run by Fratello's, and it was very disappointing. My wife had steak tips which were tasteless along with mashed potatoes that tasted like instant potatoes.
I had a salad which was fine and pizza which tasted just like DiGorno's frozen pizza.
They are under renovation so it may be quite a while before I try it again.

[webmaster]

Originally Posted by Phantom

Tried that and all it did was change Subject in my first post -- not Thread Header


Grrrrrrrrr.


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I have to change thread titles. I fixed it.

[Greene's Basin Girl]

Originally Posted by Meredith AK

Actually, the discount is the other way around. It DECREASES as it gets closer to Christmas. Typically around Dec 3rd or so it's 20%, then 10% off 10 days later, etc. So shop early December for best discount. I typically pick up 6 $50 ones for gifts or a bit of a break on the bill when we're out for a few drinks and apps.

You are absolutely correct!

[tbonies]

Originally Posted by camp guy

Next time you go to Meredith, go to George's Diner - not a whole lot of atmosphere, but great food, and lots of it, and a reasonable price.

Or maybe MickeyD's. It's right up the hill and sounds like more in your target price range.

[Phantom]

Originally Posted by tbonies

Or maybe MickeyD's. It's right up the hill and sounds like more in your target price range.

CHEAP SHOT tbonies

No one about was talking about Cheap fast food ….. we are all willing to pay a reasonable price for "reasonable food" …… the discussion was about getting virtually ripped off at a place that has turned into a tourist oriented Beach restaurant that everyone use to love and had always (in the past) had pricing in line with what you got -- including the ambiance (so to speak).

Consider reading the posts before throwing a grenade like that again!

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[tbonies]

Originally Posted by Phantom

CHEAP SHOT tbonies

No one about was talking about Cheap fast food ….. we are all willing to pay a reasonable price for "reasonable food" …… the discussion was about getting virtually ripped off at a place that has turned into a tourist oriented Beach restaurant that everyone use to love and had always (in the past) had pricing in line with what you got -- including the ambiance (so to speak).

Consider reading the posts before throwing a grenade like that again!

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Some of these discussions get exhausting to read that bad mouth local restaurants (I know, perhaps I shouldn't bother reading/responding). The reality is that absolutely nothing has changed about the Town Docks value proposition over the last many years. It's focused on short term visitors that are willing to pay a premium for spectacular lake views, a creative Jimmy Buffet like environment, and yes, mediocre food. It's seasonal business is as busy as ever, so to argue that it is a "ripoff" doesn't hold water - you just need to go somewhere else that better meets what you are looking for.

[Poor Richard]

I wouldn't necessarily call it a "rip off" but chicken shouldn't be that dry on every visit regardless of if it's a wrap, wings, whatever.

Put it like this, it's certainly not a place I personally would bring anyone I cared about to.

They are a food business, at a minimum get the food part right because I, for one, am not keen on paying for a product that doesn't exist in exchange for a neato environment.

[noreast]

Originally Posted by tbonies

Some of these discussions get exhausting to read that bad mouth local restaurants (I know, perhaps I shouldn't bother reading/responding). The reality is that absolutely nothing has changed about the Town Docks value proposition over the last many years. It's focused on short term visitors that are willing to pay a premium for spectacular lake views, a creative Jimmy Buffet like environment, and yes, mediocre food. It's seasonal business is as busy as ever, so to argue that it is a "ripoff" doesn't hold water - you just need to go somewhere else that better meets what you are looking for.

And that's exactly what people are saying & doing, going somewhere else that better meets what they're looking for. Not their problem you don't want to hear it.

[Outdoorsman]

Originally Posted by tbonies

Some of these discussions get exhausting to read that bad mouth local restaurants (I know, perhaps I shouldn't bother reading/responding). The reality is that absolutely nothing has changed about the Town Docks value proposition over the last many years. It's focused on short term visitors that are willing to pay a premium for spectacular lake views, a creative Jimmy Buffet like environment, and yes, mediocre food. It's seasonal business is as busy as ever, so to argue that it is a "ripoff" doesn't hold water - you just need to go somewhere else that better meets what you are looking for.

I would agree that every one of the Common Man restaurants are over-rated. Ever been to the Airport Diner? I can heat up a frozen burger on my own, I sure do not want to pay $12+ to have them do it for me. T Bones and Cactus Jacks are the same, reheated frozen foods. No thanks!

[Garcia]

I rarely if ever go there. I will give them a lot of credit for creating and running many successful restaurants. It’s not an easy business to be in - they seem to have done a great job identifying their customer and marketing the products those customers want. Me, I prefer to stay on the island - clearly I am not the customer they are hoping to attract.

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by Outdoorsman

I would agree that every one of the Common Man restaurants are over-rated. Ever been to the Airport Diner? I can heat up a frozen burger on my own, I sure do not want to pay $12+ to have them do it for me. T Bones and Cactus Jacks are the same, reheated frozen foods. No thanks!

So were do you go for dinner in the same price range as common man or T Bones?


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[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by joey2665

So were do you go for dinner in the same price range as common man or T Bones?


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CMan and T-Bones are not cheap, so practically anywhere: Mug Pub, Canoe, Bob House, Buckey's, Village Kitchen, any of the BBQ places, and that's just on the Moultonborough side.

Case in point: Canoe's burger--with pulled pork, onion strings, and sweet potato fries--is $12. T-Bones' regular cheeseburger is $13, with an upcharge for sweet potato fries.

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[joey2665]

Originally Posted by thinkxingu

CMan and T-Bones are not cheap, so practically anywhere: Mug Pub, Canoe, Bob House, Buckey's, Village Kitchen, any of the BBQ places, and that's just on the Moultonborough side.

Case in point: Canoe's burger--with pulled pork, onion strings, and sweet potato fries--is $12. T-Bones' regular cheeseburger is $13, with an upcharge for sweet potato fries.

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I agree with your choices in that area of the lake but asking more for his choices in the Laconia, Meredith Gilford area where several common man and T bones are located.


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[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by joey2665

I agree with your choices in that area of the lake but asking more for his choices in the Laconia, Meredith Gilford area where several common man and T bones are located.


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Giuseppe's, Lyon's Den, Patrick's, Ellacoya Bar and Grill...

That being said, I like SOME CMan options: Camp is fun, 104 Diner is fine, Lago is nice, etc. and I really like the way the Hooksett rest area came out. I guess, really, it's just Town Docks that is so disappointing.

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[Outdoorsman]

Originally Posted by joey2665

So were do you go for dinner in the same price range as common man or T Bones?


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We don't factor in price when dining out. The main issue I have with restaurants like the Common Man is that you do not get a good quality meal for the price (IMO).

thinkxingu has a pretty spot on reply to your question though if a good burger is what we are looking for.

I could buy a "seafood" dinner of sorts at any local pizza joint or at the Common Man, this is also something that we would never do. If I want good seafood I have no issue traveling to Makris in Concord, the Weathervane in Dover or any number of places in Maine. I expect to pay a bit more but quality wise I know we get much more.

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by thinkxingu

Giuseppe's, Lyon's Den, Patrick's, Ellacoya Bar and Grill...

That being said, I like SOME CMan options: Camp is fun, 104 Diner is fine, Lago is nice, etc. and I really like the way the Hooksett rest area came out. I guess, really, it's just Town Docks that is so disappointing.

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I love ellacoya one of my favorites and always crowded but I do not like Patrick’s at all and as I said several times in different threads I am not a big fan of Lyons Den, although going to give it another try.


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[Biggd]

Everyone has their own tastes, likes and dislikes. I see a number of people on here mention places that they like and I personally dislike. Not everyone has the same tastes.
When you own a business and you're always busy then you're doing something right. I see a lot of people on here that don't like The Common Man. Personally I think they do a good job. I don't like all their establishments but the ones I do like I frequent often.
Being in business myself for over 40 years I've found that you can't please everyone all the time. If people keep coming back year after year and you're always busy then you're doing something right. For the few that think they are getting ripped off, you're happy to see them go somewhere else and complain.

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by Biggd

Everyone has their own tastes, likes and dislikes. I see a number of people on here mention places that they like and I personally dislike. Not everyone has the same tastes.
When you own a business and you're always busy then you're doing something right. I see a lot of people on here that don't like The Common Man. Personally I think they do a good job. I don't like all their establishments but the ones I do like I frequent often.
Being in business myself for over 40 years I've found that you can't please everyone all the time. If people keep coming back year after year and you're always busy all the time then you're doing something right. For the few that think they are getting ripped off, you're happy to see them go somewhere else and complain.

That’s why they make Vanilla and Chocolate Ice Cream. . Different strokes for different folks.


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[Taz]

I have said in prior restaurant posts, I never base a decision to go to a restaurant on a review because not everyone will like the same thing. I make my own decision about what is good, not good, expensive for what you get etc.

If anyone wants to take my advise, I think the Lyons Den is the best restaurant on the lake when you consider the quality of the food, price, atmosphere, service. I will say that my last 2 experiences at Shipleys (the restaurant on the water, not take out across the street) is a very close 2nd, had excellent salmon dish, great service, etc. The best ice cream in the lakes region in my opinion is Jordans but I have not tried the Sandwhich Creamery.

[Woody38]

I will give a strong second for the Lyons Den. Excellent service, great tasting food and a great view. Thumbs down on Shibley's. We went there once and the service was absolutely terrible and the presentation of the food was not appealing.

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[dt5150]

my last 2 experiences at the town docks were this.. 1, burger. when it arrived, it had a big dead bug on top sitting right on the lettuce and tomato. you know those big suckers that look kinda like mosquitoes.. one of those. i sent it back and requested another one, but hold the dead bugs. 2, and this was the last time we've gone there, ordered grilled fish tacos. those arrived swimming in liquid. the tortillas were sopping wet, soaked through completely. i took 2 bites and couldn't do any more.. like eating a mushy squishy wet diaper. sent those back and got something else.

before those last 2 experiences, we'd had "ok" food there. not great or even good in our estimation, just ok. those last 2 trips did it for us, we won't be back.

[Biggd]

Saturday night 3 of us went to Lago's for dinner and after we went to Town Docks for an ice cream. Just as we got our ice cream a big cabin cruiser pulled into the pump out station right next to it. Well the wind was blowing just the right way to fully engulf the Town Docks with a putrid smell. We already had our ice creams so we quickly escaped but I felt bad for the people eating their meals. It must have been a very unpleasant experience.

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[Hillcountry]

Originally Posted by Biggd

Saturday night 3 of us went to Lago's for dinner and after we went to Town Docks for an ice cream. Just as we got our ice cream a big cabin cruiser pulled into the pump out station right next to it. Well the wind was blowing just the right way to fully engulf the Town Docks with a putrid smell. We already had our ice creams so we quickly escaped but I felt bad for the people eating theirs meals. It must have been a very unpleasant experience.

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Ya...not good.

[bruinsfan]

Originally Posted by Biggd

Saturday night 3 of us went to Lago's for dinner and after we went to Town Docks for an ice cream. Just as we got our ice cream a big cabin cruiser pulled into the pump out station right next to it. Well the wind was blowing just the right way to fully engulf the Town Docks with a putrid smell. We already had our ice creams so we quickly escaped but I felt bad for the people eating their meals. It must have been a very unpleasant experience.

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Why mention this one time issue that is not the fault of the restaurant? Seems like a situational issue that may or may not happen at any restaurant that is located near a dock. It's like saying the noise of vehicle traffic was disturbing, while eating at a curb side patio restaurant.

My two cents.... just seems nit-picky for nit-picky's sake.

[Hillcountry]

Originally Posted by bruinsfan

Why mention this one time issue that is not the fault of the restaurant? Seems like a situational issue that may or may not happen at any restaurant that is located near a dock. It's like saying the noise of vehicle traffic was disturbing, while eating at a curb side patio restaurant.

My two cents.... just seems nit-picky for nit-picky's sake.

I think it was worth mentioning as something unpleasant that could happen at that establishment...and I agree it can happen anywhere on the lake. Still stinky anywhere you may be!

[Biggd]

Originally Posted by bruinsfan

Why mention this one time issue that is not the fault of the restaurant? Seems like a situational issue that may or may not happen at any restaurant that is located near a dock. It's like saying the noise of vehicle traffic was disturbing, while eating at a curb side patio restaurant.

My two cents.... just seems nit-picky for nit-picky's sake.

Just food for thought! Hopefully you never experience it, it wasn't pleasant.
It's really not a one time issue. I've smelt it before there, just not that bad.

[noreast]

I don't think he was disparaging the town docks, Why so sensitive?

[boat_guy64]

Originally Posted by Biggd

I think they increase the discount thru December, it starts out smaller then increases as the month goes along. You have to wait until the last week to get the best deal.

It is the opposite in order to get you to buy early.

Dec 1 = 20%
Dec 2 = 19%
Dec 3 = 18%
etc....

I wake up each Dec 1 and buy them online.

[Biggd]

Originally Posted by noreast

I don't think he was disparaging the town docks, Why so sensitive?

Not at all. I still go there for drinks and for ice cream. The food, not so much.

[SteveO123]

Originally Posted by boat_guy64

It is the opposite in order to get you to buy early.

Dec 1 = 20%

Dec 2 = 19%

Dec 3 = 18%

etc....

I wake up each Dec 1 and buy them online.

Heads up everyone its Dec.1 and they are 20% off!!!

Steve

[joey2665]

Such a great deal. I also do it every year. Although thread says Town Docks it is all Common Man Resturants


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[Biggd]

We had dinner at Lago's last night and even though it wasn't the first they gave us the 20% off our gift card.

[joey2665]

****TODAY ONLY ****
Common Man has the 15% discount on gift cards.

Then next week it will drop to 10%


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[WinnisquamZ]

Was at Camp yesterday and we hit the 16% discount!


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[joey2665]

Common Man discount for gift cards is now 10%


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[thinkxingu]

We've hit up Town Docks twice in the last week, and both times were pretty good—far better than our last experiences a couple years ago when we swore them off.

It's still not an exceptional dining experience, but their prices have kept to the reasonable side and quality was better than in the past.

Items I had: Pork & Bessie burger, which they've brought back, and the seafood platter with whole clams. It's no Pop's, but I was satisfied.

Oh, and though there was a line both times, things moved quickly and the service was solid.

Cheers!

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[joey2665]

Originally Posted by thinkxingu

We've hit up Town Docks twice in the last week, and both times were pretty good—far better than our last experiences a couple years ago when we swore them off.

It's still not an exceptional dining experience, but their prices have kept to the reasonable side and quality was better than in the past.

Items I had: Pork & Bessie burger, which they've brought back, and the seafood platter with whole clams. It's no Pop's, but I was satisfied.

Oh, and though there was a line both times, things moved quickly and the service was solid.

Cheers!

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Agree 1000% think. Been there 3 times already this season. My kids love it and I think the food is good. FYI fried clams weren’t bad, no Pops but not bad.

Went this past Sunday and actually docked right at the restaurant. There were about 15 people ahead of us on line but sat in 10 minutes.

Service was pretty quick also, they seem to have plenty of servers unlike others. My daughter is a host at Camp and she said in the summer many of the servers migrate over from Camp and Lago because the tips are much better.


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[LIforrelaxin]

So read through this thread quickly.... I haven't been to any of the common man restaurants in several years now.... Nor have a been to any of the restaurants owned by Magic Foods Restaurant Group.... Both Corporate entities have taken the charm away from eating out in the lakes Region. They have taken control of so many places, that they can charge and do charge astronomical prices... Unfortunately the State of NH is in pretty deep with the Common Man Corporation, allowing them to control the Rest Areas......Which simply makes maters worse

Both these Corporations are aimed at one thing fleecing the Tourists.... and thus also fleecing the locals.... After spending 20$ on 2 hot dogs, chips, and 2 soda for my son and I likely 7-8 years ago, I swore I would never eat in a common man establishment again.... I have held true to my word.....

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by LIforrelaxin

So read through this thread quickly.... I haven't been to any of the common man restaurants in several years now.... Nor have a been to any of the restaurants owned by Magic Foods Restaurant Group.... Both Corporate entities have taken the charm away from eating out in the lakes Region. They have taken control of so many places, that they can charge and do charge astronomical prices... Unfortunately the State of NH is in pretty deep with the Common Man Corporation, allowing them to control the Rest Areas......Which simply makes maters worse

Both these Corporations are aimed at one thing fleecing the Tourists.... and thus also fleecing the locals.... After spending 20$ on 2 hot dogs, chips, and 2 soda for my son and I likely 7-8 years ago, I swore I would never eat in a common man establishment again.... I have held true to my word.....

I know what you mean—I hate chain restaurants with a passion—but one thing I appreciate about both entities is that their establishments are clean and usually serviced well and, most importantly, offer unique styles in each and reasonable portions and pricing.

The seafood platter I got yesterday was $36. Pop's, which I consider the pinnacle of fried seafood, was $35. Though Pop's was overall better, I was not disappointed at all in Town Docks'...and the atmosphere was better.

Now, three years ago I ordered scallops at TD and got a tiny plate of bay scallops—that was the last time I'd eaten there since this week.

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[joey2665]

Originally Posted by LIforrelaxin

So read through this thread quickly.... I haven't been to any of the common man restaurants in several years now.... Nor have a been to any of the restaurants owned by Magic Foods Restaurant Group.... Both Corporate entities have taken the charm away from eating out in the lakes Region. They have taken control of so many places, that they can charge and do charge astronomical prices... Unfortunately the State of NH is in pretty deep with the Common Man Corporation, allowing them to control the Rest Areas......Which simply makes maters worse

Both these Corporations are aimed at one thing fleecing the Tourists.... and thus also fleecing the locals.... After spending 20$ on 2 hot dogs, chips, and 2 soda for my son and I likely 7-8 years ago, I swore I would never eat in a common man establishment again.... I have held true to my word.....

These are both local companies, I do not conside them to be "chain resturants" and please do not forget both have accomplished a lot to help revitlize the region. Yes do the prices reflect "tourist pricing", they can but that is their market and helps keep the economy in the area going.

[Descant]

Every time I eat at a Common Man establishment, I know that Alex is feeding somebody else who doesn't have food. Hurricane relief, $1MM to Ukraine, etc. I sat with him at a "Water Matters" conference where he was the keynote speaker. His knowledge of operational details, watching what was happening at the conference center and talking about following the pattern to take back to the Common Man was amazing.

[ishoot308]

Originally Posted by LIforrelaxin

So read through this thread quickly.... I haven't been to any of the common man restaurants in several years now.... Nor have a been to any of the restaurants owned by Magic Foods Restaurant Group.... Both Corporate entities have taken the charm away from eating out in the lakes Region. They have taken control of so many places, that they can charge and do charge astronomical prices... Unfortunately the State of NH is in pretty deep with the Common Man Corporation, allowing them to control the Rest Areas......Which simply makes maters worse

Both these Corporations are aimed at one thing fleecing the Tourists.... and thus also fleecing the locals.... After spending 20$ on 2 hot dogs, chips, and 2 soda for my son and I likely 7-8 years ago, I swore I would never eat in a common man establishment again.... I have held true to my word.....

Been to the Common Man in Ashland a number of times and found their food to be very good and fairly priced...hardly a tourist trap. After reading your post and not having been there this year, I thought maybe they drastically increased prices in their menu recently but no I didn't find that. Here's their menu which I find quite in line or better than other non Common Man restaurants in the area...nothing stood out at all as being out of line price-wise.

https://www.thecman.com/wp-content/u...inner-Core.pdf

Magic Foods which is owned by local entrepreneur Scott Ouellette and Andy Juhasz, manage the best restaurants in the Lakes Region to include my favorite O's. I have never felt "fleeced" after dining there and I am certainly not a tourist. We have hired their catering service on a number of occasions and everything from service to quality of food has been stellar! They will be catering my upcoming "island party" and I expect it to be as always an outstanding experience!!

If your bashing all these fine establishments because of a couple of over priced hot dogs you bought at the town docks, that's simply not fair...

Dan

[FlyingScot]

Common Man is good food, good service, good environment, served by good people. We're lucky to have them

[Susie Cougar]

I’ve eaten there many times over the years and always enjoyed it.

We were there when Alex first opened the restaurant and he was the cook and his wife was the waitress. And yes, he does so much to help others.

[phoenix]

Because i local has more than one restaurant you consider them a chain , since samiam owns both Vk and red hill i guess he is a chain also

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by phoenix

Because i local has more than one restaurant you consider them a chain , since samiam owns both Vk and red hill i guess he is a chain also

I distinguish between local and national chains and between different establishments. Red Hill is a takeout ice cream and fried food shop vs. Village Kitchen being a dine-in restaurant. I make the same distinction between the Common Man eateries because they're significantly different and locally owned and operated.

Applebee's, however, is a national chain and everything wrong with America.

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[LIforrelaxin]

Originally Posted by ishoot308

Been to the Common Man in Ashland a number of times and found their food to be very good and fairly priced...hardly a tourist trap. After reading your post and not having been there this year, I thought maybe they drastically increased prices in their menu recently but no I didn't find that. Here's their menu which I find quite in line or better than other non Common Man restaurants in the area...nothing stood out at all as being out of line price-wise.

https://www.thecman.com/wp-content/u...inner-Core.pdf

Magic Foods which is owned by local entrepreneur Scott Ouellette and Andy Juhasz, manage the best restaurants in the Lakes Region to include my favorite O's. I have never felt "fleeced" after dining there and I am certainly not a tourist. We have hired their catering service on a number of occasions and everything from service to quality of food has been stellar! They will be catering my upcoming "island party" and I expect it to be as always an outstanding experience!!

If your bashing all these fine establishments because of a couple of over priced hot dogs you bought at the town docks, that's simply not fair...

Dan

Actually I am not bashing them over just the Hot Dogs, I have had a number of experiences with both entities.

Scott 0 himself soured me on his establishments, I spent a great deal of time discussing specific instances that I ran into at the canoe with him... None of the issue had to do with how good or not the food was I found it enjoyable... I do actually applaud him for being willing to discuss maters, and found him to be a stand up business man.... At the end of the day, he and I have different views on what a restaurant experience should be like, and what fair market pricing is. I can tell you that for the cut of meat he serves he is over charging... I spent many years working in a butcher shop.... Many restaurants serve better quality meat at better prices... At the end of the day, we listen to each other, had a good conversation and realized we wouldn't see eye to eye.....

As for the common man, unlike Scott 0's establishments, I have had many bad meals at there various establishments. Some of there meals are inline pricing wise but others like the hot dogs, are not... I have had both bad and good service in their establishments.... and I also believe they took advantage of the State of New Hampshire, and have been allowed to claim exclusivity in the rest areas, and are doing exactly as I expected they would slowly driving up the prices, at those roadside venues, up to and including at the gas pumps.

Bottom line is the 20 dollar Hot Dog experience, just finally woke me up. IT is not only these two establishments, they just happen to be the two in the relevant area of discussion. Just because I have chosen to take my money else where doesn't mean anyone else needs to.... I just want to open peoples eyes to the fact that these restaurateurs, have taken the step to become larger entities driven by profit and margins, some make it some don't... Ultimately, I believe that Magic Foods will continue to prosper, as I have seen Scott 0, take a vested interested when people make complaints. The Common Man I think at some point, is going to need to decided how they really want to focus themselves......

[Descant]

Many years ago, I worked at a seasonal lakes region restaurant. The staff at area restaurants all talked to each other about favorite and less favorite customers who frequented several places in the area. Some got great service, and some had staff arguing about who had to wait on that party, suggesting that with poor service, maybe they'd go elsewhere. Sounds like some of the posters in this thread are on one of those lists, always getting great service or always being disappointed.

[LIforrelaxin]

Originally Posted by Descant

Many years ago, I worked at a seasonal lakes region restaurant. The staff at area restaurants all talked to each other about favorite and less favorite customers who frequented several places in the area. Some got great service, and some had staff arguing about who had to wait on that party, suggesting that with poor service, maybe they'd go elsewhere. Sounds like some of the posters in this thread are on one of those lists, always getting great service or always being disappointed.

That still goes on today I am sure.... I have always been a very good tipper, and most times have no issues with the waitstaff itself....

In regards to Scott O's establishment, I got very frustrated at the time because he had segregated his dinning area's keeping families in one part of the restaurant and also having a "kid" free zone.... Having to wait to get a seat for me and my Son, while seeing plenty of open tables, didn't sit well with me.... The staff didn't make that rule, so I didn't take it up with them.... My well behaved kids and I shouldn't suffer because other have not so well behaved kids....

The common man, as stated, no real issue with the staff persay.... Pricing and inconsistent meals drove me away....

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by LIforrelaxin

That still goes on today I am sure.... I have always been a very good tipper, and most times have no issues with the waitstaff itself....



In regards to Scott O's establishment, I got very frustrated at the time because he had segregated his dinning area's keeping families in one part of the restaurant and also having a "kid" free zone.... Having to wait to get a seat for me and my Son, while seeing plenty of open tables, didn't sit well with me.... The staff didn't make that rule, so I didn't take it up with them.... My well behaved kids and I shouldn't suffer because other have not so well behaved kids....



The common man, as stated, no real issue with the staff persay.... Pricing and inconsistent meals drove me away....

The "kid-free" zone thing is interesting, but I'm torn: as a parent of great kids, I'd hate both to be forced to wait AND to be shoved in with terrible kids/families.

When out with just my wife, however, I also don't want to be subjected to those terrible kids/families.

Another example of having to fix a problem that really shouldn't exist in the first place.

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[LIforrelaxin]

Originally Posted by phoenix

Because i local has more than one restaurant you consider them a chain , since samiam owns both Vk and red hill i guess he is a chain also

Lets look at the differences between the entities you list here:

VK and Red Hill Diary, located close together, with an owner that can easily check in at both places as needed.... I don't classify this as a chain, especially because they don't operate under a standardize name

Common Man Chain: Is a corporation, with several venues, which need to run independently under corporate guidance.... But yet still local in Nature, thus has a bit more hands on guidance directly from the Company... Yes I consider this a chain....

Magic Foods, is also a corporation, I could argue either way as to if this is a chain or not... However given the locations of the restaurants I tend to think of its running being a bit more like the Common Man, however my guess is Scott 0 spends a bit more time at the various locations.....

Applebees is not a chain, it is a Franchise and much different. Locations are independently owned and operated within the guidelines of the franchise agreement. This general means, there menu has to be what is defined by the Franchise, they have to use the specified vendor for supplies etc.

Bottom line, I would never compare Applebees to Magic Foods, Common Man, o r samiam....