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02-02-2016, 12:02 PM | #1 |
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Adding sand behind existing retaining wall at shoreline?
I have a retaining wall at the shoreline, currently there is crushed stone, do I need a permit to replace with sand to make a sandy area?
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02-02-2016, 12:35 PM | #2 |
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02-02-2016, 12:44 PM | #3 |
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As far as I can tell you need a permit/permission for everything near the waterfront. Trimming some trees may be an exception.
Possibly if you do a little at a time with a wheel barrow no one will notice or care. A note about sand. The sand you get delivered by dump truck is not beach sand. The dump truck sand potentially is full of weeds that are not now on your property. But let others who have done this recently chime in. The rules change and get interpreted constantly. |
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02-02-2016, 02:41 PM | #4 |
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Phosphorus in sand
Something to consider is the fact that there is phosphorus in sand. As we all know by now, phosphorus is bad for lakes. Here is a link that discusses the situation in a lake in Maine.
http://www.yorkswcd.org/Lakes/ADDING...%20BEACHES.pdf While you are not putting in a beach, over time some of the sand will end up in the lake. Just something to consider. |
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02-02-2016, 06:40 PM | #5 | |
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The problem with the state of NH permit process is that is extremely cumbersome and time consuming. As a result, folks just do what they want as suggested above. The state should do two things to make the process work: 1) outsource the permitting process to a private company to eliminate the extreme bureaucracy in the system 2) Impose huge fines for anyone violating the system. If this happened we would all be better off. |
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02-03-2016, 07:16 AM | #7 |
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Working that close to the water there are several things that could trigger your needing a permit. When reading the regulations the one thing that pops out is "machanical equipment", that usually triggers some sort of permit or Notice.
I would call the state and ask, yes it may require more work and money, but that's part of having waterfront property on our beautiful lakes. |
02-03-2016, 04:52 PM | #8 |
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02-04-2016, 07:30 PM | #9 |
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I'm not so sure if the fines are actually spelled out but I may be wrong. I do agree enforcement is key and that is perhaps what I should have more clearly stated.
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02-05-2016, 10:22 AM | #10 |
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Grass
Why not grow grass there? Makes a nice carpet for feet, looks nice and won't pollute the lake. Go GREEN
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02-05-2016, 10:30 AM | #11 |
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Only if they are willing to accept that most of it will be weeds and weak grass. I have a section like this and it is green and comfortable on the feet. But if, like many, they also put down fertilizers and weed killers, it will greatly harm the lake.
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02-05-2016, 12:27 PM | #13 |
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Okay--grass is a bad idea. Belay that suggestion. I would go with pavers then. No maintenance, no harm to lake, no messy sand getting all over the place and time to enjoy the lake.
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question.
When you have lakeside, or riverside, or any property bordering water that the State has an interest in, don't you have to be concerned with a proper ratio of impervious vs. pervious surface?
That I read that in a thread here in the forum, or maybe it was elsewhere. Possible consideration to pavers if there must be a balance with the types of surface.
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Lakeside = Pervious Pavers (or other substance)
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