Pop's Clam Shack

nj2nh · 07-10-2009, 11:53 PM

I have to comment here about Pop's. We had been going since I was in diapers, but we don't eat there anymore. So many reasons. First, it is outrageously expensive even for something as simple as a burger and fries. Secondly, I have serious doubts about it's cleanliness. The last time we dared eat there, we were standing under the overhang while hundreds of spiders lurked over our heads. It was terrifying and disgusting. That was many years ago and we haven't braved it since.

Also, both of my kids got sick there. It wasn't just a coincidence. Food poisoning all the way.

Sorry to burst bubbles. There onion rings are really the best, but not worth the aggravation.

nj2nh

trfour · 07-11-2009, 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nj2nh

I have to comment here about Pop's. We had been going since I was in diapers, but we don't eat there anymore. So many reasons. First, it is outrageously expensive even for something as simple as a burger and fries. Secondly, I have serious doubts about it's cleanliness. The last time we dared eat there, we were standing under the overhang while hundreds of spiders lurked over our heads. It was terrifying and disgusting. That was many years ago and we haven't braved it since.

Also, both of my kids got sick there. It wasn't just a coincidence. Food poisoning all the way.

Sorry to burst bubbles. There onion rings are really the best, but not worth the aggravation.

nj2nh

In my 14 and some years living here, and someore, I never heard tell of, and all of my Family and friends as well, never heard that about that of which you are speaking. Well, and if this realy happened, I hope that you at least wrote them about it?

Hey, in your case, I'm not trying to say that what you said, didn't happen,
Let us see if they can defend themselves!

pops · 07-11-2009, 06:39 AM

nj2nh
Sorry you had a bad experience with us. I remember the problem with the spiders a few years ago. Just to explain to the rest of the board. This is in an outdoor enviroment. we were informed about it by a customer , we sprayed and the problem was taken care of. We did not realize this was a problem as the spiders would come out at night as they were attracted by the flourescent lighting. As far as us being expensive....we do have high priced seafood items on our menu but I think we are in line with the other seafood places that are near us. most everything that comes from the sea is expensive. It is expensive on my end. I just wrote a check yesterday to ipswich shellfish for $6400. We do have reasonably priced items on our menu though, and I would consider a burger@$2.45 and a fry@$2.50 to be some of them.Remember.."good seafood is never cheap" and "cheap seafood is never good".
I am sorry your kids were sick. I have raised three kids of my own and know that no parent enjoys seeing their child ill. I also learned that kids will put anything in their mouths from dirty fingers to something they found on the ground.I doubt it was caused by anything they ate at my place. Did you go to the doctors and get a proven diagnosis?
Most people do not realize that their home kitchen harbors far more bacteria than most commercial kitchens.
Our kitchen is inspected by the stat of NH. Is yours? All of our equipment is NSF listed. Is yours? All of our food contact surfaces are saintized nightly. Is yours? I have a certificate in sanitation from he National Restaurant Assoc. Do you? We scored a 100 on our health inspection last year and I have a copy if you would like to see it. My health inspector eats at my place also.
I find it odd that you would take the time to post here about your childrens sickness but would not take the time to report it to the state.

I am sorry for being so defensive about this but I am not going to let an unproven allegations be made with out defending myself!
Pops

dewitt · 07-11-2009, 09:10 AM

Pops,

Just read that they closed all of Maine clam flats. I hope and wish you well during this trying time. Have visited many outdoor establishments and of course you are going to see bugs, sea gulls, geese, etc. Also, if you don't want to experience the great roadside drive-ins then those people should go to the franchises. I'm sure they are clean. (doubt it)

codeman671 · 07-11-2009, 09:54 AM

We have always been a fan of Pop's however had a lousy meal yesterday. The seafood platter was ALL french fries and cole slaw, the clams seemed more like strips than whole clams, there was 2 full size shrimp instead of the pile of minis that you usually get, and probably 3 scallops on the whole plate. The overall amount of food was nothing like it normally is. We ate through it so quickly (the seafood part that is, nobody could ever eat that many fries) and were still hungry so I ordered a side of scallops. The bottom of the boat that it came in was all watery but they tasted OK. It was like pulling teeth to get extra tartar sauce, they gave me 2 for a platter. I asked for more, I got one more thimbell sized cup. I asked again, she finally filled one of the small boats that they usually do but it was like I was asking for the world. We did use it, its not like it went in the can.

In the end, we dropped $64 for counter service takeout for 2 adults and 2 small children. I ended up with an empty wallet and a nasty stomach ache about 2 hours after which I have not gotten there before. I have been a fan before and have recommended people to Pop's in the past however it will be a while before I go back. We used to go every Friday night on the way up, we will be skipping it for a while.

goodriddancex3x3 · 08-16-2009, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by codeman671

We have always been a fan of Pop's however had a lousy meal yesterday. The seafood platter was ALL french fries and cole slaw, the clams seemed more like strips than whole clams, there was 2 full size shrimp instead of the pile of minis that you usually get, and probably 3 scallops on the whole plate. The overall amount of food was nothing like it normally is. We ate through it so quickly (the seafood part that is, nobody could ever eat that many fries) and were still hungry so I ordered a side of scallops. The bottom of the boat that it came in was all watery but they tasted OK. It was like pulling teeth to get extra tartar sauce, they gave me 2 for a platter. I asked for more, I got one more thimbell sized cup. I asked again, she finally filled one of the small boats that they usually do but it was like I was asking for the world. We did use it, its not like it went in the can.

In the end, we dropped $64 for counter service takeout for 2 adults and 2 small children. I ended up with an empty wallet and a nasty stomach ache about 2 hours after which I have not gotten there before. I have been a fan before and have recommended people to Pop's in the past however it will be a while before I go back. We used to go every Friday night on the way up, we will be skipping it for a while.

Seafood plates never have baby shrimp.

goodriddancex3x3 · 08-16-2009, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by codeman671

We have always been a fan of Pop's however had a lousy meal yesterday. The seafood platter was ALL french fries and cole slaw, the clams seemed more like strips than whole clams, there was 2 full size shrimp instead of the pile of minis that you usually get, and probably 3 scallops on the whole plate. The overall amount of food was nothing like it normally is. We ate through it so quickly (the seafood part that is, nobody could ever eat that many fries) and were still hungry so I ordered a side of scallops. The bottom of the boat that it came in was all watery but they tasted OK. It was like pulling teeth to get extra tartar sauce, they gave me 2 for a platter. I asked for more, I got one more thimbell sized cup. I asked again, she finally filled one of the small boats that they usually do but it was like I was asking for the world. We did use it, its not like it went in the can.

In the end, we dropped $64 for counter service takeout for 2 adults and 2 small children. I ended up with an empty wallet and a nasty stomach ache about 2 hours after which I have not gotten there before. I have been a fan before and have recommended people to Pop's in the past however it will be a while before I go back. We used to go every Friday night on the way up, we will be skipping it for a while.

I would just like to say that as an employee at Pop's Clam Shell, I spend an equal amount of time cleaning as I do preparing food. You can imagine that as we are usually very busy, a lot of cleaning and sanitizing is done. At night we spend about 45 minutes sanitizing all of our surfaces and supplies thoroughly, as we also do throughout the day. Nothing is left untouched. We received a one hundred on our health inspection this past year. Often times our health inspector even eats at our restaurant. You shouldn't be so quick to blame your child's illness on our food.

upthesaukee · 08-17-2009, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by goodriddancex3x3

I would just like to say that as an employee at Pop's Clam Shell, I spend an equal amount of time cleaning as I do preparing food. You can imagine that as we are usually very busy, a lot of cleaning and sanitizing is done. At night we spend about 45 minutes sanitizing all of our surfaces and supplies thoroughly, as we also do throughout the day. Nothing is left untouched. We received a one hundred on our health inspection this past year. Often times our health inspector even eats at our restaurant. You shouldn't be so quick to blame your child's illness on our food.

In a case like this (codeman's post), it would be far better to have "Pops" respond rather than an employee.

I understand and commend your loyalty, but perhaps the better course of action would have been to let Pops know of the negative comment, and let him respond here in public, or by email/message to the poster.

Just my opinion.

pianoman · 08-17-2009, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by upthesaukee

In a case like this (codeman's post), it would be far better to have "Pops" respond rather than an employee.

I understand and commend your loyalty, but perhaps the better course of action would have been to let Pops know of the negative comment, and let him respond here in public, or by email/message to the poster.

Just my opinion.

Geeze...do you REALLY think 'goodrid" was expressing loyalty? It sounds exactly like they were describing their daily routine and rules of the business.

upthesaukee · 08-17-2009, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by pianoman

Geeze...do you REALLY think 'goodrid" was expressing loyalty? It sounds exactly like they were describing their daily routine and rules of the business.

I felt like he/she were standing up for the business, in my opinion, and most importantly, felt like he/she should have left the response to Pops.

Nuff said.

Newbiesaukee · 08-17-2009, 11:01 AM

I've never been to Pop's, but I thought the points made by the employee (who identified him/herself as such) were relevant and honest and the reader can draw his/her own conclusion. Also, much earlier in the thread Pops did respond to comments and I do not see much he can add.

goodriddancex3x3 · 08-20-2009, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by upthesaukee

In a case like this (codeman's post), it would be far better to have "Pops" respond rather than an employee.

I understand and commend your loyalty, but perhaps the better course of action would have been to let Pops know of the negative comment, and let him respond here in public, or by email/message to the poster.

Just my opinion.

Pop's did take the better course of action and respond to the comment earlier in the thread.

fpartri497 · 08-20-2009, 03:57 PM

wife and I ate at pops last night had scallop plates and It was delicious. have been eating there for many years allways great food.

dpg · 08-20-2009, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by goodriddancex3x3

Pop's did take the better course of action and respond to the comment earlier in the thread.

Personally I recommend you just let it go, you have nothing to prove. You can't please 100% of the people all of the time. Certanly sounds like Pops has enough of a following, you won't win a battle back and forth at the key board. Just keep doing what it is you do everyday at work...That's all.

Happy Gourmand · 08-23-2009, 11:29 AM

Who wants to cook with this heat and humidity upon us?
We went for a ride yesterday, if for nothing else to enjoy the air conditioned comfort of the car...I won't say that I don't like this weather, but I will say that I hate it!

It was my intention to make the complete lake tour, but we didn't make it past Wolfeboro where my wife and her sister insist that I let them out do do some local shopping. Wolfebore was packed, cars and people all over the place...I hope the stores are having a good season.
So they get back from their mission to deplete the balance in my debit account and announce that they would like some fried seafood for lunch. Not being too familiar with Wolfeboro restaurants, I decided to backtrack through Alton Bay and head to Pop's. We passed the Front Porch on our way to and from Wolfeboro and was wondering how the food was there....but I was determined to try Pop's.
We arrive about 12:30 and there is no line, but a couple of people are ahead of us. We check out the menu....sis-in law wants the clam plate at $22.95, wife wants the jumbo fried shrimp at $18.95 and I want the clam and scallop plate at $22.95. Sounds pretty steep to me....but wait just a minute....
My wife raved about the fried shrimp, I agreed with her sister that the clams were as good as any I have had, and the scallops (large sea scallops) were also as good as any I have ever had.
The portions were HUGE...much more than any one person could comfortably eat. I didn't care too much for the cole slaw...not saying it was bad, just not to my personal liking, besides, there was way too much other "good stuff" on the platter to enjoy. And I did enjoy.
If you go...I recommend that you do what the couple in front of us did....
(obviously repeat customers) order ONE platter and an order of onion rings and share it. More than enough of some of the best fried seafood in the area. The onion rings looked really good. I will try them the next time we go.

tis · 08-23-2009, 06:23 PM

Fri and Sat were sidewalk days in Wolfeboro, so it was mobbed most of the time.

RI Swamp Yankee · 08-23-2009, 08:45 PM

I haven't been to Pop's in a long time but I do remember some really great onion rings from there.

EricP · 07-11-2009, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by pops

nj2nh
I am sorry for being so defensive about this but I am not going to let an unproven allegations be made with out defending myself!
Pops

It's quite alright to get a little defensive, just be careful. It's so easy to get caught up and make things personal. You can't, it does more damage than good. My advice is to acknowledge negative posts minimally, just address the concern peacefully, then go to the restaurant and make changes that will benefit you and the customers and filter back out to the masses in a positive light. It can really hurt to read a negative post about your business that you spend so much time and money building, but lashing out won't fix it. Kill 'em with kindness

FWIW, I personally think that seafood platters should be smaller and sell for less, I hate that most seem to be around $25 and I'd rather spend $15 on one and have less food, as I usually never finish the fries anyway. This is not a comment about Pops platters, I have actually never been there. Just general banter on my part.

BrownEyedGirl · 07-11-2009, 09:44 PM

Can't make everyone happy is what comes into play here. For the most part seems like Pops has a great business and a good following. I have never been myself but a good friend of mine and her husband go there about three times a week! They are obsessed!

They rave about the place and they are very picky eaters, but like I said, I've never been so...I wish you luck Pops and I hope you have a great summer. Seafood can be very difficult to purchase, hold and sell. I also have noted that some can be sensitive to the actual frying or batter than the seafood, especially clams and scallops. Might have been the reason for your belly ache. The oil from the fryolator, tartar sauce, ketchup...sometimes makes me a little queasy too, especially on a hot day.

SAMIAM · 07-12-2009, 08:56 AM

Most food poisoning has a long incubation period......most likely the kids caught something from their friends or family. It's not fair to accuse someone of making your kids sick unless you have proof. Go to a doctor and get a diagnosis before you trash someones reputation.

Newbiesaukee · 07-12-2009, 11:09 AM

staph food poisoning (the kind usually associated with leaving the tuna salad with mayonnaise out too long) is caused by a toxin formed by the bacteria and the symptoms can occur within 30 minutes. It is not subtle. But most things people label as food poisoning are not and most commercial kitchens are safer than most homes with respect to food handling practices.

SAMIAM · 07-13-2009, 09:59 AM

True, Newbiesaukee, Staphylococcus is the only one of the 10 common foodborne illness' that comes on fairly rapidly.....you must have some food biz in your background. The reason I get testy when someone makes that accusation is that, usually it is not true. Most people eat 3 times a day and whenever they come down with something they seem to want to blame it on the last place that they ate.
It's the single biggest fear that most operators have and most of us go to extremes to avoid it. Most, bleach work surfaces after each job,s end employees to SevSafe school, wear gloves when handling prepared foods and in our case, all emplyees must wash hands twice after using a restroom. Once in the restroom and once again in the kitchen before returning to work (doorknobs and towel dispensers have germs)
Also, I hate to praise anyone in government, but the NH Dept of Health does a fantastic job. They are TOUGH. Just when you think you'll get 100 points, they manage to find something and it's not really a bad thing. Keeps everyone on their toes. Don't mean to ramble on.....just want to let everyone know that, although there are exceptions,most food service establishments are very clean and safe.

Happy Gourmand · 07-13-2009, 12:30 PM

I once was "dinged" for dirty sliding door tracks on a soda cooler. They are tough but fair. The way it should be.

trfour · 07-12-2009, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SAMIAM

Most food poisoning has a long incubation period......most likely the kids caught something from their friends or family.It's not fair to accuse someone of making your kids sick unless you have proof.Go to a doctor and get a diagnosis before you trash someones reputation.

Hey.... In my 20 + years here, I have eaten in places that are not even in the phone book, and not once have I ever been sickened by the food.... Now, I don't know if I have a cast iron stomach, or maybe that afternoon time, I would have a beer while I waited for my meal and maybe another afterwords.

And, by the way, this includes my own cooking!

However, I will admit that I called into work sick on occasion, and used food poisoning as an excuse!.... Oh and ya, I just wanted to play hooky so as to spend some more quality time out here at www.winnipesaukee.com

T

07-10-2009, 11:53 PM	#1
nj2nh Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 535 Thanks: 86 Thanked 47 Times in 27 Posts	I have to comment here about Pop's. We had been going since I was in diapers, but we don't eat there anymore. So many reasons. First, it is outrageously expensive even for something as simple as a burger and fries. Secondly, I have serious doubts about it's cleanliness. The last time we dared eat there, we were standing under the overhang while hundreds of spiders lurked over our heads. It was terrifying and disgusting. That was many years ago and we haven't braved it since. Also, both of my kids got sick there. It wasn't just a coincidence. Food poisoning all the way. Sorry to burst bubbles. There onion rings are really the best, but not worth the aggravation. nj2nh __________________

07-11-2009, 06:39 AM	#3
pops Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 82 Thanks: 24 Thanked 281 Times in 59 Posts	pops response nj2nh Sorry you had a bad experience with us. I remember the problem with the spiders a few years ago. Just to explain to the rest of the board. This is in an outdoor enviroment. we were informed about it by a customer , we sprayed and the problem was taken care of. We did not realize this was a problem as the spiders would come out at night as they were attracted by the flourescent lighting. As far as us being expensive....we do have high priced seafood items on our menu but I think we are in line with the other seafood places that are near us. most everything that comes from the sea is expensive. It is expensive on my end. I just wrote a check yesterday to ipswich shellfish for $6400. We do have reasonably priced items on our menu though, and I would consider a burger@$2.45 and a fry@$2.50 to be some of them.Remember.."good seafood is never cheap" and "cheap seafood is never good". I am sorry your kids were sick. I have raised three kids of my own and know that no parent enjoys seeing their child ill. I also learned that kids will put anything in their mouths from dirty fingers to something they found on the ground.I doubt it was caused by anything they ate at my place. Did you go to the doctors and get a proven diagnosis? Most people do not realize that their home kitchen harbors far more bacteria than most commercial kitchens. Our kitchen is inspected by the stat of NH. Is yours? All of our equipment is NSF listed. Is yours? All of our food contact surfaces are saintized nightly. Is yours? I have a certificate in sanitation from he National Restaurant Assoc. Do you? We scored a 100 on our health inspection last year and I have a copy if you would like to see it. My health inspector eats at my place also. I find it odd that you would take the time to post here about your childrens sickness but would not take the time to report it to the state. I am sorry for being so defensive about this but I am not going to let an unproven allegations be made with out defending myself! Pops Last edited by pops; 07-11-2009 at 08:35 AM.

08-20-2009, 03:57 PM	#13
fpartri497 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Concord NH Posts: 681 Thanks: 97 Thanked 48 Times in 39 Posts	pops clam shell wife and I ate at pops last night had scallop plates and It was delicious. have been eating there for many years allways great food. __________________ dont worry be happy

08-23-2009, 11:29 AM	#15
Happy Gourmand Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ruskin FL Posts: 1,027 Thanks: 188 Thanked 322 Times in 179 Posts	Ate at Pop's yesterday Who wants to cook with this heat and humidity upon us? We went for a ride yesterday, if for nothing else to enjoy the air conditioned comfort of the car...I won't say that I don't like this weather, but I will say that I hate it! It was my intention to make the complete lake tour, but we didn't make it past Wolfeboro where my wife and her sister insist that I let them out do do some local shopping. Wolfebore was packed, cars and people all over the place...I hope the stores are having a good season. So they get back from their mission to deplete the balance in my debit account and announce that they would like some fried seafood for lunch. Not being too familiar with Wolfeboro restaurants, I decided to backtrack through Alton Bay and head to Pop's. We passed the Front Porch on our way to and from Wolfeboro and was wondering how the food was there....but I was determined to try Pop's. We arrive about 12:30 and there is no line, but a couple of people are ahead of us. We check out the menu....sis-in law wants the clam plate at $22.95, wife wants the jumbo fried shrimp at $18.95 and I want the clam and scallop plate at $22.95. Sounds pretty steep to me....but wait just a minute.... My wife raved about the fried shrimp, I agreed with her sister that the clams were as good as any I have had, and the scallops (large sea scallops) were also as good as any I have ever had. The portions were HUGE...much more than any one person could comfortably eat. I didn't care too much for the cole slaw...not saying it was bad, just not to my personal liking, besides, there was way too much other "good stuff" on the platter to enjoy. And I did enjoy. If you go...I recommend that you do what the couple in front of us did.... (obviously repeat customers) order ONE platter and an order of onion rings and share it. More than enough of some of the best fried seafood in the area. The onion rings looked really good. I will try them the next time we go.

08-23-2009, 08:45 PM	#17
RI Swamp Yankee Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: North Kingstown RI Posts: 688 Thanks: 143 Thanked 83 Times in 55 Posts	I haven't been to Pop's in a long time but I do remember some really great onion rings from there. __________________ Gene ~ aka "another RI Swamp Yankee"

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07-11-2009, 09:10 AM	#4
dewitt Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 14 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Pops, Just read that they closed all of Maine clam flats. I hope and wish you well during this trying time. Have visited many outdoor establishments and of course you are going to see bugs, sea gulls, geese, etc. Also, if you don't want to experience the great roadside drive-ins then those people should go to the franchises. I'm sure they are clean. (doubt it)

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07-11-2009, 09:54 AM	#5
codeman671 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,604 Thanks: 223 Thanked 856 Times in 519 Posts	We have always been a fan of Pop's however had a lousy meal yesterday. The seafood platter was ALL french fries and cole slaw, the clams seemed more like strips than whole clams, there was 2 full size shrimp instead of the pile of minis that you usually get, and probably 3 scallops on the whole plate. The overall amount of food was nothing like it normally is. We ate through it so quickly (the seafood part that is, nobody could ever eat that many fries) and were still hungry so I ordered a side of scallops. The bottom of the boat that it came in was all watery but they tasted OK. It was like pulling teeth to get extra tartar sauce, they gave me 2 for a platter. I asked for more, I got one more thimbell sized cup. I asked again, she finally filled one of the small boats that they usually do but it was like I was asking for the world. We did use it, its not like it went in the can. In the end, we dropped $64 for counter service takeout for 2 adults and 2 small children. I ended up with an empty wallet and a nasty stomach ache about 2 hours after which I have not gotten there before. I have been a fan before and have recommended people to Pop's in the past however it will be a while before I go back. We used to go every Friday night on the way up, we will be skipping it for a while.

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08-17-2009, 11:01 AM	#11
Newbiesaukee Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Coral Gables, winter; Long Island, summer Posts: 1,366 Thanks: 966 Thanked 575 Times in 300 Posts	I've never been to Pop's, but I thought the points made by the employee (who identified him/herself as such) were relevant and honest and the reader can draw his/her own conclusion. Also, much earlier in the thread Pops did respond to comments and I do not see much he can add.

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08-23-2009, 06:23 PM	#16
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07-11-2009, 09:44 PM	#19
BrownEyedGirl Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Lakes Region Posts: 27 Thanks: 4 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Can't make everyone happy Can't make everyone happy is what comes into play here. For the most part seems like Pops has a great business and a good following. I have never been myself but a good friend of mine and her husband go there about three times a week! They are obsessed! They rave about the place and they are very picky eaters, but like I said, I've never been so...I wish you luck Pops and I hope you have a great summer. Seafood can be very difficult to purchase, hold and sell. I also have noted that some can be sensitive to the actual frying or batter than the seafood, especially clams and scallops. Might have been the reason for your belly ache. The oil from the fryolator, tartar sauce, ketchup...sometimes makes me a little queasy too, especially on a hot day. __________________ *~[email protected]~*

07-12-2009, 08:56 AM	#20
SAMIAM Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Moultonborough Posts: 2,937 Thanks: 349 Thanked 1,708 Times in 602 Posts	Most food poisoning has a long incubation period......most likely the kids caught something from their friends or family. It's not fair to accuse someone of making your kids sick unless you have proof. Go to a doctor and get a diagnosis before you trash someones reputation.

07-12-2009, 11:09 AM	#21
Newbiesaukee Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Coral Gables, winter; Long Island, summer Posts: 1,366 Thanks: 966 Thanked 575 Times in 300 Posts	Samiam, agree with your post but, staph food poisoning (the kind usually associated with leaving the tuna salad with mayonnaise out too long) is caused by a toxin formed by the bacteria and the symptoms can occur within 30 minutes. It is not subtle. But most things people label as food poisoning are not and most commercial kitchens are safer than most homes with respect to food handling practices.

07-13-2009, 09:59 AM	#22
SAMIAM Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Moultonborough Posts: 2,937 Thanks: 349 Thanked 1,708 Times in 602 Posts	True, Newbiesaukee, Staphylococcus is the only one of the 10 common foodborne illness' that comes on fairly rapidly.....you must have some food biz in your background. The reason I get testy when someone makes that accusation is that, usually it is not true. Most people eat 3 times a day and whenever they come down with something they seem to want to blame it on the last place that they ate. It's the single biggest fear that most operators have and most of us go to extremes to avoid it. Most, bleach work surfaces after each job,s end employees to SevSafe school, wear gloves when handling prepared foods and in our case, all emplyees must wash hands twice after using a restroom. Once in the restroom and once again in the kitchen before returning to work (doorknobs and towel dispensers have germs) Also, I hate to praise anyone in government, but the NH Dept of Health does a fantastic job. They are TOUGH. Just when you think you'll get 100 points, they manage to find something and it's not really a bad thing. Keeps everyone on their toes. Don't mean to ramble on.....just want to let everyone know that, although there are exceptions,most food service establishments are very clean and safe.

07-13-2009, 12:30 PM	#23
Happy Gourmand Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ruskin FL Posts: 1,027 Thanks: 188 Thanked 322 Times in 179 Posts	Right on Samiam I once was "dinged" for dirty sliding door tracks on a soda cooler. They are tough but fair. The way it should be.

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