Water driveways

SAMIAM · 06-05-2009, 07:44 AM

Thanks,Don....I rest my case.Ha ha,Charlie.......my wife THINKS I'm working.

4Fun · 06-05-2009, 09:15 AM

Maybe we should have an "On the water" forum fest right in front of "Pieces" camp this summer

Misty Blue · 06-05-2009, 11:52 AM

Some folks in this discussion have made a point that it's OK to anchor off of a property if they are 150 feet or more away from the dock.

Anchoring that far from shore could put the anchored boat in a area where there could cause a collision with an underrway boat.

My neighbor used to talk about a boat that used to anchor off of his place every wednesday. He said that a man and a woman on the boat would take off their clothes and do "things".

My wife noticed a telescope by his bay window. It was pointing down twards the Lake. She said "Isn't this thing supposed to be looking at the sky?"

Misty Blue

fatlazyless · 06-05-2009, 01:06 PM

hey...how about a major film studio picking this up and creating a dramatic summer film, shot on the lake....just envision Richard Dreyfuss and Bette Midler as the nasty arrogant retired wealthy couple who summer out there, way across the bay, on Attitude Island....

a scene could go like this

Dreyfuss' character: Just look Dear, another fisherman, is here, making our little cove feel so dirty...

Midler's character: Yes, what a shame, with this whole big lake, why must they do that terrible fishing right here, so we are forced to look at them...

Dreyfuss' character: Now, couldn't they just take up drinking and leave the fishing rods at home...

Midler's character: some people, I tell you Dear....it's just terrible what we have to put up with just to get to our little island...

SAMIAM · 06-05-2009, 05:56 PM

FLL........Couple of people in a white truck are coming to see you with a net......let them in...they are your friends

partsman · 06-05-2009, 08:49 PM

While just a newbie to this forum, I have been on this lake for 60 years and in the marine business for 40 years and have seen all the scenarios you all describe.

Woodsy says it best:

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Originally Posted by Woodsy

The problem lies in what a waterfront property owner might think is reasonable vs. what an anchored boater might think is reasonable. The laws are on the side of the boater.

Unfortunately, those who own waterfront property abut what is essentially a state park. While its very desireable to abut such a beautiful park, it has its downfalls. Its not your "cove" or your "backyard" You have to put up with Joe Public. Joe Public can be annoyingly noisy guy. You knew that going in! If I were the sailboater mentioned in Post #5 I would have politely told the MP to leave me alone...

What I find humorous is the perception that being anchored off the shoreline is somehow inconsiderate?? I dont quite get that. The property line ends at the high water mark... PERIOD! If someone anchors thier boat off your property and proceed to enjoy themselves... lunch, swim, music, etc. Its no different than a group of people playing frisbee in a park. While Joe Public has a RIGHT to enjoy the lake/park as they see fit, the waterfront property owner/park abutter does not have ANY RIGHTS (other than the Littoral rights mentioned above) past thier property line which for the lake is the high water mark!

It is precisely the NIMBY attitude of some waterfront property owners that has resulted in the many no rafting zones... the more no rafting zones we have, the more people have to spread out into other areas of the lake.

I am a considerate boater... I have never anchored in front of someones property and certainly have never caused an annoyance. However I have a serious problem when a property onwer THINKS that he/she has RIGHTS that somehow trump mine.... that is certainly not the case or the law here in NH!

Woodsy

To all shorefront land owners, we locals have as much right to the waterways in NH as you do. Some of us choose to not purchase shorefront property because we don't need to own it when we can just boat from our rented docks or launch ramps; others of us can not afford to. The reality is, it is as much our lake as yours. Get over it. If the law is being broken you should absolutely contact the proper authorities. If someone is just enjoying their right to our great lake, leave them alone.

hazelnut · 06-05-2009, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by partsman

While just a newbie to this forum, I have been on this lake for 60 years and in the marine business for 40 years and have seen all the scenarios you all describe.

Woodsy says it best:

To all shorefront land owners, we locals have as much right to the waterways in NH as you do. Some of us choose to not purchase shorefront property because we don't need to own it when we can just boat from our rented docks or launch ramps; others of us can not afford to. The reality is, it is as much our lake as yours. Get over it. If the law is being broken you should absolutely contact the proper authorities. If someone is just enjoying their right to our great lake, leave them alone.

As a lakefront property owner (island) I concur. Well said partsman. We can all get along here and just be courteous of each other. Goes both way here by the way. This lake is big enough for all of us to enjoy!

LIforrelaxin · 06-08-2009, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by partsman

The reality is, it is as much our lake as yours.

Here is the problem at the root of it all..... putting ownership in regards to the lake....

"our lake" ... "your (lake)"...... it is THE LAKE...... any time people start to assign ownership over something arguments will insue...... locals, feel it is theirs, while lake front property owners feel it belongs to them..... it belongs to all of us.....

Now as for grumpy land owners, I watch two fishing boats go passed my property this weekend.... both of which maintaind their boats 30 to 40 feet out past the end of my dock, and where carefull not to cast anywhere near the dock or the kids in the water.... Hell I even talked with them as they passed by....... we RESPECTED each other right to enjoy THE LAKE...... therefore it was a wonderful day.....

RC246 · 06-05-2009, 08:51 PM

Thank you OCDACTIVE for seeing the REALITY of the situation.
4Fun, count me in on the forum fest (though not in front "of Pieces") BUT, in the same spot this incident occoured.

VtSteve · 06-05-2009, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by partsman

While just a newbie to this forum, I have been on this lake for 60 years and in the marine business for 40 years and have seen all the scenarios you all describe.

Woodsy says it best:

To all shorefront land owners, we locals have as much right to the waterways in NH as you do. Some of us choose to not purchase shorefront property because we don't need to own it when we can just boat from our rented docks or launch ramps; others of us can not afford to. The reality is, it is as much our lake as yours. Get over it. If the law is being broken you should absolutely contact the proper authorities. If someone is just enjoying their right to our great lake, leave them alone.

End of thread. Great post, says it all.

ApS · 06-06-2009, 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VtSteve

End of thread. Great post, says it all.

Well, when I got to here:

Quote:

I...certainly have never caused an annoyance.

I thought this...and then this.

06-05-2009, 11:52 AM	#3
Misty Blue Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 658 Thanks: 121 Thanked 283 Times in 98 Posts	how far is enough? Some folks in this discussion have made a point that it's OK to anchor off of a property if they are 150 feet or more away from the dock. Anchoring that far from shore could put the anchored boat in a area where there could cause a collision with an underrway boat. My neighbor used to talk about a boat that used to anchor off of his place every wednesday. He said that a man and a woman on the boat would take off their clothes and do "things". My wife noticed a telescope by his bay window. It was pointing down twards the Lake. She said "Isn't this thing supposed to be looking at the sky?" Misty Blue

06-05-2009, 01:06 PM	#4
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 9,176 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 310 Thanked 1,103 Times in 812 Posts	hey...how about a major film studio picking this up and creating a dramatic summer film, shot on the lake....just envision Richard Dreyfuss and Bette Midler as the nasty arrogant retired wealthy couple who summer out there, way across the bay, on Attitude Island.... a scene could go like this Dreyfuss' character: Just look Dear, another fisherman, is here, making our little cove feel so dirty... Midler's character: Yes, what a shame, with this whole big lake, why must they do that terrible fishing right here, so we are forced to look at them... Dreyfuss' character: Now, couldn't they just take up drinking and leave the fishing rods at home... Midler's character: some people, I tell you Dear....it's just terrible what we have to put up with just to get to our little island... __________________ .... Banned for life from local thrift store!

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06-05-2009, 07:44 AM	#1
SAMIAM Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Moultonborough Posts: 2,937 Thanks: 349 Thanked 1,708 Times in 602 Posts	Thanks,Don....I rest my case.Ha ha,Charlie.......my wife THINKS I'm working.

06-05-2009, 09:15 AM	#2
4Fun Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 283 Thanks: 1 Thanked 66 Times in 38 Posts	Maybe we should have an "On the water" forum fest right in front of "Pieces" camp this summer

06-05-2009, 05:56 PM	#5
SAMIAM Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Moultonborough Posts: 2,937 Thanks: 349 Thanked 1,708 Times in 602 Posts	FLL........Couple of people in a white truck are coming to see you with a net......let them in...they are your friends

06-05-2009, 08:51 PM	#9
RC246 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Connecticut Posts: 13 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thank you OCDACTIVE for seeing the REALITY of the situation. 4Fun, count me in on the forum fest (though not in front "of Pieces") BUT, in the same spot this incident occoured.