No smoking at the Weirs

[upthesaukee]

These items are usually put there, not for the smokers convenience, but rather as a place to safely deposit the cigarette butts for those who don't know that the area is nonsmoking (or choose to ignore the signs). My wife works at a medical practice, and there are signs in the office, but some people will still come up smoking, and at least there is a receptical for them to place their cigarette butts in, rather than tossing them on the ground.

Since they put out the recepticals, there are very few butts that get tossed on the ground..

[MeEscape]

I must have missed the vote on Alton’s ordinance banning smoking at the town parks and swimming areas, see Upthesaukee’s pic at:

http://www.winnipesaukee.com/photopo...ll&limit=last1

I could go on about the restriction on my rights but frankly we already know that the invading army from the South has overrun Live free and die.

BTW, I’ll smoke my once a week CIGAR at the docks in the Bay until they pry it from my cold dead fingers!! Oh, I’ll most likely have a beer in my other hand, please remember to recycle the can.

[Pontoon Goon]

MeEscape how in the world can you blame Mass people for smoking bans? Remember we don't have a say we just pay taxes!!!!!

[Argie's Wife]

Alton posted those signs 2 years ago and there were some comments at the deliberative session in 2008 about it.

I think I'm more annoyed about the "no fishing" sign on the beach than the rest of it...

[GTO]

Originally Posted by Argie's Wife

Alton posted those signs 2 years ago and there were some comments at the deliberative session in 2008 about it.

I think I'm more annoyed about the "no fishing" sign on the beach than the rest of it...

Maybe nobody could see the signs with all the 2nd hand smoke in their eyes

[upthesaukee]

Originally Posted by Argie's Wife

I think I'm more annoyed about the "no fishing" sign on the beach than the rest of it...

When I was on the parks and rec commission, this was discussed there and the unanimous recommendation was to not allow fishing in swimming areas due to the very real chance of kids (or adults) in bare feet picking up a stray (lost, dropped, discarded, etc) fishhook.

You can fish in any of the areas in the bay other than designated swim areas. Best fishing is by the docks or the Mount Washington dock anyway.

[Argie's Wife]

Originally Posted by upthesaukee

When I was on the parks and rec commission, this was discussed there and the unanimous recommendation was to not allow fishing in swimming areas due to the very real chance of kids (or adults) in bare feet picking up a stray (lost, dropped, discarded, etc) fishhook.

You can fish in any of the areas in the bay other than designated swim areas. Best fishing is by the docks or the Mount Washington dock anyway.

I know... (I get the logic) but... I still get excited like a little kid when I feel that tug at the end of my line and know there's something on my hook! Nothing beats it!

Somehow that ol' song, "Sign, sign, everywhere a sign... blockin' up the scenery, breaking my mind... Do this; don't do that... Can't 'cha read the sign?!" comes to mind...

[nj2nh]

Okay, I don't care one way or the other about the smoking ban since the only beach I sit on is the one in my backyard. I never smoked, but whether you smoke or not is none of my business. I am happy to move if it bothers me. Really.

However, I am getting pretty darn tired of the NH residents picking on Massachusetts. I mean, I didn't choose to grow up in MA, but I will defend it to the end. NH is my location of choice, but not because of Live Free or Die. Really, come on. Enough already.

Of course, you notice that I live in NJ which is cleary the state that gets more abuse than any other. I chose to live here (sort of - husband came from here, had a job here, we ended up here), but am waiting for the day I can move north - way north. Really, MA looks great compared to Jersey with the ridiculous taxes, unending regulation on everything from whether I have to have a metal or a wooden door between by basement and garage to the number of water bottles put out at a Board of Ed meeting (I kid you not) and unrepaired potholes that stay for years and years and years simply because there aren't enough houses on the street to justify fixing it.

And, we have NY next door.

So, NH, make peace with Massachusetts as your neighbor. I would bet most of your tourist dollars come from just south of the border. And stop calling yourself North Massachusetts . You are sooooo not Massachusetts (for good or for ill).

Of course, I say this all with my tongue firmly in my cheek. I love these controversial threads! So much fun.

nj2nh

[SIKSUKR]

Originally Posted by nj2nh

However, I am getting pretty darn tired of the NH residents picking on Massachusetts. I mean, I didn't choose to grow up in MA, but I will defend it to the end. NH is my location of choice, but not because of Live Free or Die. Really, come on. Enough already.
nj2nh

Not one to get on the Mass Bash bandwagon but you really wouldn't understand if you didn't grow up here and watch the change that has taken place influenced from south of the border.A large % of the citizens are not the problem,the politics are.

[mcdude]

Associated Press 3/25/2009

N.H. House rejects ban on smoking in cars with kids

CONCORD (AP) — The House has rejected legislation banning smoking in cars with young passengers as a violation of the adults’ civil liberties. Critics said the state shouldn’t infringe on the adults’ use of private property. They also said the refraining from smoking around children is common sense and

should not be legislated. But supporters argued the safety of children and their civil rights trumps the rights of adults. They said children have no defense against secondhand smoke in confined places.
The House voted 184-167 to kill the bill.

[jmen24]

Originally Posted by SIKSUKR

Not one to get on the Mass Bash bandwagon but you really wouldn't understand if you didn't grow up here and watch the change that has taken place influenced from south of the border.A large % of the citizens are not the problem,the politics are.

This thread needs a thank you button.

[OCDACTIVE]

I will probably get burnt.... But I had to say something..

I think there are two seperate issues here..

1. second hand smoke

2. litering.

1. I am a reformed smoker. I was always very courtious when I smoked. I would never do it around children and make sure it wasn't bothering anyone. I realize that there are many people out there who are not so attentive. But do we really need another law. I would have had no problem with someone if they simply asked "could you do that elsewhere?". Because I was always careful this never happened, but why do we need laws to speak up? If someone is smoking and it is blowing near me or my son I will ask them if they could move. 99.9% of the time they will. Are people really too afraid of a fellow beach goer to ask them to move? If they won't I will. Not going to let it spoil my day. I don't think we need laws to hide behind.

2. litering.. I am pretty sure, but aren't their laws against this already? Do we need another law on top of a law to make sure it is adhered to? Oh wait, thats right we just passed another law we are not allowed to talk about that wasn't needed.

I am not going to jump up and down crying civil liberties for smokers etc.. but I will say we need civility.......

[Pineedles]

Originally Posted by mcdude

Associated Press 3/25/2009

Oh my gawd, there is some sanity in the gov't! Thanks mcdude. I know some say that the children have rights too but I would wager dollars to donuts that those same folks in the Leg. feel that a woman's rights trump the unborn child's rights. Not that I am in favor of outlawing abortion again, its one of those things that you have to try and make it easier for the mother to keep the baby to full term, and eventually the number of abortions will diminish.

Its the same way with smoking. Spend some of that tobacco settlement money on helping people kick the habit and everyone will benefit.

[Rose]

Originally Posted by MeEscape

I could go on about the restriction on my rights but frankly we already know that the invading army from the South has overrun Live free and die.

I am Locutus of Massachusetts. Resistance is futile. Your life as it has been, is over. From this time forward, you will service us.

[Argie's Wife]

Originally Posted by Rose

I am Locutus of Massachusetts. Resistance is futile. Your life as it has been, is over. From this time forward, you will service us.

Do I detect another Trekkie?

Signed,

SevenOfNine

[John A. Birdsall]

Hey they ban cigarettes, great second hand smoke is worse than first grade smoke, but why? I will tell you, its the bad breath mixed in. Smoke, and beer afterglow smoke, will give you a high as it kills you.

You know what the state of Nh should ban? Taking kids on vacation! or maybe just having kids, seems they are a punishment. oops did I say that. I hope my daughter does not read this.