Cspa protest

Onshore · 03-17-2009, 11:37 AM

In the interest of improving the process so that others don't have a negative experience... were your difficulties related to your subsurface system approval or were they specifically related a CSPA standard?

You said that we "changed the number allowed". It's not clear what that was the number of, but my first guess would be bedrooms. If that is the case, how was the CSPA an issue? Loading calculations and requirements aren't set by the CSPA.

I understand you feel you didn't get treated the way you should have, and for whatever part we in Shoreland may have played in that, I apologize. I can only tell you that we are trying to make this as unobtrusive as we can. You can choose not to believe it if you wish and I would understand and not hold it against you. But if you want us to fix something we need you to tell us what you think was wrong. You are welcome to PM me and I'll give you the Division Director or Commissioner's contact info if you don't want to deal with the staff directly.

D. Forst
Shoreland Section Supervisor
NHDES Wetlands Bureau

tis · 03-17-2009, 12:31 PM

I guess the worst thing is the time involved. Nothing was done in a timely manner. It shouldn't take a year to get a permit for anything. I suppose it depends on the project, but it is very complicated and I couldn't imagine trying to get through the process on my own, by that I mean without a professional. PIG, I truly admire you for doing it on your own and getting through it. On here, shore things, you make it sound like you really do care but in all honestly, that was not the feeling we got at all as we went through the process. I am sorry, I am just telling you the way we felt. And I know we are not alone. It would really be nice if you could improve the process, make it less obtrusive and leave a better taste in people's mouths. I really and truly hope we never have to do another project on the lake.

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03-17-2009, 11:37 AM	#1
Onshore Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 505 Thanks: 12 Thanked 428 Times in 147 Posts	In the interest of improving the process so that others don't have a negative experience... were your difficulties related to your subsurface system approval or were they specifically related a CSPA standard? You said that we "changed the number allowed". It's not clear what that was the number of, but my first guess would be bedrooms. If that is the case, how was the CSPA an issue? Loading calculations and requirements aren't set by the CSPA. I understand you feel you didn't get treated the way you should have, and for whatever part we in Shoreland may have played in that, I apologize. I can only tell you that we are trying to make this as unobtrusive as we can. You can choose not to believe it if you wish and I would understand and not hold it against you. But if you want us to fix something we need you to tell us what you think was wrong. You are welcome to PM me and I'll give you the Division Director or Commissioner's contact info if you don't want to deal with the staff directly. D. Forst Shoreland Section Supervisor NHDES Wetlands Bureau

03-17-2009, 12:31 PM	#2
tis Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,946 Thanks: 795 Thanked 1,493 Times in 1,040 Posts	I guess the worst thing is the time involved. Nothing was done in a timely manner. It shouldn't take a year to get a permit for anything. I suppose it depends on the project, but it is very complicated and I couldn't imagine trying to get through the process on my own, by that I mean without a professional. PIG, I truly admire you for doing it on your own and getting through it. On here, shore things, you make it sound like you really do care but in all honestly, that was not the feeling we got at all as we went through the process. I am sorry, I am just telling you the way we felt. And I know we are not alone. It would really be nice if you could improve the process, make it less obtrusive and leave a better taste in people's mouths. I really and truly hope we never have to do another project on the lake.