Fender Bender on Alton Bay - plane hits truck

hockeypuck · 02-12-2007, 08:13 AM

Here's a thought. There are many snowmobiles, trucks, cars, etc that are driven by first timers on the lake or just don't know the rules for safe use, or lack common sense, how about some lines sprayed on the snow that would provide a safety zone around the runway. They do this for down hill ski races. Couldn't cost much and would set boundaries for all to see. I for one would not drive a truck out onto the lack no matter how thick the ice is.

ITD · 02-12-2007, 08:52 AM

72 square miles of lake and this guy has to put his bob house and truck within a "wings length" of a runway. Then he seems to be too thick or stubborn to move it. Ah, but he is well within his rights, just no common sense or courtesy.

I think Hockeypuck is right, a few hundred in signs would go a long way.

Woodsy · 02-12-2007, 09:40 AM

I am glad nobody was hurt....

No doubt once the lawyers and the anti personal responsibility people get wind of this there will be lawsuits galore, and probably signal the demise of the runway on Alton Bay! how sad...

Woodsy

Joe Kerr · 02-12-2007, 10:07 AM

I thought planes were required to keep a minimum distance from other planes during landing and take off. Anyone know for sure?

Glad no one was hurt this time. Signs and painting lines in the snow would help. If this is an official FAA runway I would expect them to fix the problem. Look what the FAA did in New Bedford MA. The FAA got involved with the airport landscaping. Landing lights were not required so the brush overgrew some of the lights. A plane crash at night and now they FAA demands the lights go on and the brush gets cut. How will the FAA respond to this crash on Winnie?

RLW · 02-12-2007, 10:33 AM

I was present at the Bay sevral times watching all the activity going on and the fun everyone was enjoying. I was not present for the plane incident and believe also it was lucky that no one was hurt. I would think it would be easy for the plow driver that does the runway to make a single pass around the runway that would be a safe distance for both the planes and the fun goers on the lake. They could put signs here and there on the bankings telling people not go past this area. This could be done for a year or 2 and the people should (should ) learn, plus if advertised in rules and bullentin boards etc.. Just my 2 cents worth of a way to stop tragedy before it happens.

CanisLupusArctos · 02-12-2007, 12:36 PM

What if a bunch of people chipped in, went down to Home Depot, and got enough stuff to jury-rig a lighting system for the runway that could be removed (or will float) when the ice weakens?

As for fences, I remember in the past seeing the runway and taxiways guarded with bright orange rollout fence like the ski areas use to mark trail edges. Maybe not the entirety, but enough to make it obvious that the non-guarded areas were off-limits too.

But wait a minute-- this is an official FAA-recognized airport. Where's the TSA? The chain-link and razor wire fence? And everyone who goes out on that ice should have to go through a metal detector. (kidding... of course!) Imagine: "Sorry sir, in the name of national security we're going to have to confiscate your ice auger..."

Weirs guy · 02-12-2007, 01:43 PM

Hopefully a truck getting hit by a plane will be as effective as some lights and paint.

02-12-2007, 09:40 AM	#3
Woodsy Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Weirs Beach Posts: 1,974 Thanks: 80 Thanked 984 Times in 443 Posts	I am glad nobody was hurt.... No doubt once the lawyers and the anti personal responsibility people get wind of this there will be lawsuits galore, and probably signal the demise of the runway on Alton Bay! how sad... Woodsy __________________ The only way to eliminate ignorant behavior is through education. You can't fix stupid.

02-12-2007, 10:07 AM	#4
Joe Kerr Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 92 Thanks: 23 Thanked 16 Times in 5 Posts	Rules for airplanes I thought planes were required to keep a minimum distance from other planes during landing and take off. Anyone know for sure? Glad no one was hurt this time. Signs and painting lines in the snow would help. If this is an official FAA runway I would expect them to fix the problem. Look what the FAA did in New Bedford MA. The FAA got involved with the airport landscaping. Landing lights were not required so the brush overgrew some of the lights. A plane crash at night and now they FAA demands the lights go on and the brush gets cut. How will the FAA respond to this crash on Winnie? __________________ ~ Joe Kerr

02-12-2007, 10:33 AM	#5
RLW Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Alton Bay on the mountain by a lake Posts: 2,023 Thanks: 563 Thanked 444 Times in 311 Posts	Rules for people and airplanes having fun on the ice I was present at the Bay sevral times watching all the activity going on and the fun everyone was enjoying. I was not present for the plane incident and believe also it was lucky that no one was hurt. I would think it would be easy for the plow driver that does the runway to make a single pass around the runway that would be a safe distance for both the planes and the fun goers on the lake. They could put signs here and there on the bankings telling people not go past this area. This could be done for a year or 2 and the people should (should ) learn, plus if advertised in rules and bullentin boards etc.. Just my 2 cents worth of a way to stop tragedy before it happens. __________________ There is nothing better than living on Alton Mountain & our grand kids visits.

02-12-2007, 12:36 PM	#6
CanisLupusArctos Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Center Harbor Posts: 1,049 Thanks: 15 Thanked 472 Times in 107 Posts	Lights? What if a bunch of people chipped in, went down to Home Depot, and got enough stuff to jury-rig a lighting system for the runway that could be removed (or will float) when the ice weakens? As for fences, I remember in the past seeing the runway and taxiways guarded with bright orange rollout fence like the ski areas use to mark trail edges. Maybe not the entirety, but enough to make it obvious that the non-guarded areas were off-limits too. But wait a minute-- this is an official FAA-recognized airport. Where's the TSA? The chain-link and razor wire fence? And everyone who goes out on that ice should have to go through a metal detector. (kidding... of course!) Imagine: "Sorry sir, in the name of national security we're going to have to confiscate your ice auger..."

02-12-2007, 01:43 PM	#7
Weirs guy Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Weirs Beach, NH Posts: 1,067 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Hopefully a truck getting hit by a plane will be as effective as some lights and paint. __________________ Is it bikeweek yet? Now?

02-12-2007, 08:13 AM	#1
hockeypuck Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Southern CT Posts: 169 Thanks: 19 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	Here's a thought. There are many snowmobiles, trucks, cars, etc that are driven by first timers on the lake or just don't know the rules for safe use, or lack common sense, how about some lines sprayed on the snow that would provide a safety zone around the runway. They do this for down hill ski races. Couldn't cost much and would set boundaries for all to see. I for one would not drive a truck out onto the lack no matter how thick the ice is.

02-12-2007, 08:52 AM	#2
ITD Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Moultonboro, NH Posts: 2,953 Thanks: 484 Thanked 703 Times in 393 Posts	72 square miles of lake and this guy has to put his bob house and truck within a "wings length" of a runway. Then he seems to be too thick or stubborn to move it. Ah, but he is well within his rights, just no common sense or courtesy. I think Hockeypuck is right, a few hundred in signs would go a long way.

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