Let’s Talk about Cyanobacteria!

[winterh]

Originally Posted by LoveLakeLife

Achtung, yes, property rights be damned. Hail the Collective.


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If your neighbor decides to dump toxic waste on his property and it seeps onto your land or the water you share would you be saying "oh well, he has property rights?" I say this as a long time libertarian who recognizes sometimes rights come into conflict

[John Mercier]

Run-off that would be true... and laws exist for that.
But the geese are really not quite the same.

The person establishing the lawn deals with the wildlife that it attracts... pretty much like any other landscape or feature. Think of it like a bear getting at your bird feeder or a skunk/racoon going for your garbage can.

[LoveLakeLife]

Originally Posted by winterh

If your neighbor decides to dump toxic waste on his property and it seeps onto your land or the water you share would you be saying "oh well, he has property rights?" I say this as a long time libertarian who recognizes sometimes rights come into conflict

Yes he has property rights just like his neighbor. However in tour posited scenario he would have created a private nuisance by allowing the seepage into the neighbor’s yard and would be accountable for the damage to the neighbor’s yard. I was reacting more to the other proposal, the governmental fiat.


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[tis]

Originally Posted by LoveLakeLife

Yes he has property rights just like his neighbor. However in tour posited scenario he would have created a private nuisance by allowing the seepage into the neighbor’s yard and would be accountable for the damage to the neighbor’s yard. I was reacting more to the other proposal, the governmental fiat.


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People screaming and yelling and using the lake as a bathroom as they anchor/raft is ok despite the fact it affects people.

[barndoor]

The bloom resurfaced on the northwest side of Barndoor Island this morning. Swimming is not an option as the water is truly disgusting.

[Mr. V]

I have to wonder...with these blooms recurring and being problematical, will this affect lake front property values in the future?

[barefootbay]

Originally Posted by Mr. V

I have to wonder...with these blooms recurring and being problematical, will this affect lake front property values in the future?

If people can’t recreate in and on the lake and it is a health issue as well as aesthetic . It will become a major lake front real estate issue not to mention a tourist deterrent !

[SAB1]

Just saw yesterday they have found the same algae blooms in Lake Francis up in Pittsburg. I don’t think there’s many lush lawns there.

[barefootbay]

Originally Posted by SAB1

Just saw yesterday they have found the same algae blooms in Lake Francis up in Pittsburg. I don’t think there’s many lush lawns there.

Goose plague !

[John Mercier]

Originally Posted by SAB1

Just saw yesterday they have found the same algae blooms in Lake Francis up in Pittsburg. I don’t think there’s many lush lawns there.

Do you have a link to the story?
I couldn't find it.

[tis]

Originally Posted by SAB1

Just saw yesterday they have found the same algae blooms in Lake Francis up in Pittsburg. I don’t think there’s many lush lawns there.

It's everywhere. I heard it's even in the ocean.

[Susie Cougar]

Originally Posted by tis

It's everywhere. I heard it's even in the ocean.

You are right, tis. In the ocean, it is called red tide. And it is everywhere.

[tis]

Originally Posted by Susie Cougar

You are right, tis. In the ocean, it is called red tide. And it is everywhere.

Is it the same as red tide? I didn't know that.

[Grant]

Originally Posted by tis

Is it the same as red tide? I didn't know that.

No -- not the same thing, although they share some similarities. Karenia brevis causes "red tide" algal blooms in salt water. Cyanobacteria is a fresh water thing. But both are triggered by elevated nutrient levels that are exacerbated by humans. And they both can release toxins.

[rick35]

There are now red warning signs posted to the Shep Browns docks.

[SAB1]

Just got back from a ride. Amazing how expansive the areas are when you get into it. South end of Cow Island all the way up to and beyond south end of Sandy is covered with the stuff. Another bad area was the water between Round and Timber.

[Mr. V]

Dumb question perhaps, but can this stuff be harvested when in bloom and put to good use somehow?

Use fine nets to scoop it up then remove it.

I haven't seen it: is it too fine to be caught in a fine mesh net?

[ApS]

Originally Posted by Mr. V

Dumb question perhaps, but can this stuff be harvested when in bloom and put to good use somehow? Use fine nets to scoop it up then remove it.
I haven't seen it: is it too fine to be caught in a fine mesh net?

Gloeotrichia could be filtered with a paper coffee filter, but there's probably a billion gallons of Winnipesaukee's surface waters that would need to be filtered.

But is Gloeotrichia the more-dangerous of our several cyanobacteria species?

[fatlazyless]

Some excellent news; after ten days the two yellow signs, "Unsafe for Swimming or Wading" were removed yesterday, August 30 by the NH DES and the cold 65-degree Corcoran's Pond is now open to swimming. Is now open to go swim my 200-yards in the icy cold water with a neoprene vest, O'Neal thermo, and foam noodle swim flotation belt, doing the breast/side stroke and keeping my face and head out of the water.

Gimme some sun and 86-degree heat ........ get ready for the September Summer!

Good timing ...... what with the Waterville Valley, Sat-Sun-Mon Labor Day weekend ...... those yellow 'fecal bacteria' warning, Unsafe for Swimming and Wading signs are no longer present. So, did the Governor have anything to do with this or was it just coincidental? Whatever, unless you is a moose, the water is probably too danged cold now, in Corcoran's Pond.

[KPW]

Originally Posted by SAB1

Just got back from a ride. Amazing how expansive the areas are when you get into it. South end of Cow Island all the way up to and beyond south end of Sandy is covered with the stuff. Another bad area was the water between Round and Timber.

Barber Pole?

[rick35]

Originally Posted by rick35

There are now red warning signs posted to the Shep Browns docks.

Saw a new sign posted over one of the red ones tonight. I think the wording has been softened a little.

https://www.des.nh.gov/sites/g/files...cyano-sign.pdf

[Biggd]

They must have had a bloom at the Waukewan beach on Saturday. When I went by about 10am they were putting those floating warning flags about 100 feet off shore from the boat launch to the beach but I still saw people swimming.

[Grant]

Originally Posted by tis

It's everywhere. I heard it's even in the ocean.

Correct. There's loads of it just in a teaspoon of average topsoil. And it's always been in the lake...always will. The issue is the combination of nutrient loading and temperature. The more nutrients (phosphorous and nitrogen) the more growth. So, the same nutrients used on lawns, and P leaching from septic systems, fuels the growth of blooms. Simple.

[jeffatsquam]

Originally Posted by Mr. V

I have to wonder...with these blooms recurring and being problematical, will this affect lake front property values in the future?

The real estate prices have skyrocketed on Squam.

I don't know of a Goose problem on Squam , but I do know of only 2 lawns

[winterh]

Although there are different opinions on the best way to address the issue the folks who read this site are obviously well informed that we have a water quality problem in the lakes region. As popular as this site may be its readers are a small minority. Makes me wonder how much the average local or even waterfront home owner is actually aware of the problem. I would think that those spending 5 million plus on waterfront homes with big green lawns would want to protect their investments.

[Tyler]

Randy Owen the owner of a portion of Farm Island in Tuftonboro seems to think he has the answer, check out his Facebook page. He claims he is in contact with Erin Brockovich!

[Mr. V]

Originally Posted by Tyler

Randy Owen the owner of a portion of Farm Island in Tuftonboro seems to think he has the answer, check out his Facebook page. He claims he is in contact with Erin Brockovich!

What, him again?

Mr. "I'll get you campers" guy?

Dismiss his ideas to the slag heap.

[erk]

Originally Posted by Tyler

Randy Owen the owner of a portion of Farm Island in Tuftonboro seems to think he has the answer, check out his Facebook page. He claims he is in contact with Erin Brockovich!

It would be cool to have Julia Roberts in the lake region