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Old 02-15-2024, 10:39 AM   #1
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As I mentioned in my post #21 above:
https://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums...7&postcount=21

The Navionics+ charts seem to fix the issue.

Don't buy the older G3 LakeVu charts (Unless someone can confirm that they updated and fixed the issues).
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Thank you, Rich, for your input.
I just purchased ($149) the Navionics+ of US East - Coast/Inland lakes. Like you have shown, the red/black spars are back!
Much appreciated!
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Thank you, Rich, for your input.
I just purchased ($149) the Navionics+ of US East - Coast/Inland lakes. Like you have shown, the red/black spars are back!
Much appreciated!
You are very welcome! It's good to hear that this solved your issue also! Thanks for letting us know!
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Winnipesaukee Garmin Users, yesterday I received an email from Garmin which informed me that the U.S LakeVu chart has been finally updated!

I honestly was surprised to hear this news from them. I thought that they stopped updating the G3 charts as all their new products seem to come with the Navionics charts now.

Yesterday I updated the built in G3 map of my EchoMap 73sv UHD. It certainly took some time to complete the process (a few hours), but it was successful!

The new map is "US LakeVu g3 Detail Map v25.0 v2024.0"

And YES! We the black-top and red-top navigational markers have returned! The chart seems usable again!

While I haven't been on the lake yet with it, I did pan around manually and see the colored markers have returned, no more empty white rectangles!

While I was at it. I also updated my firmware to the latest version (27.10)

So you no longer are forced to buy the Navionics chart to fix this issue.

If you have a unit that is still within the 'free chart update' period (I believe one year from the purchase date) I would suggest that you update the built in chart as soon as you can before you lose the ability to have a free update.

Alternatively, if your unit is missing the red-top and black-top navaid markers, perhaps you can plead your case with support that it's dangerous for use for navigating, and they may give you a free or discounted update?

Considering that I originally reported this issue to them about 2 years ago, support gave me a 'special case' free upgrade. I'm a bit disappointed that it took them so long to resolve this issue, but at least it's resolved now.
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I purchased the Navionics+ charts last year after reading this thread. I went back and forth with Garmin and they told me they didn't have a Lakevu upgrade then. I just emailed them again and pleaded my case for a free upgrade since the original Lakevu didn't work and that the spar size on the Navionics+ software was too small. I mentioned that I didn't think I should have to pay a third time for a chart that works. We'll see how that goes.
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Rick35,

Good luck and I hope they help you! Please let us know it turns out for you.

I didn't check the spar size on this map update vs the Navionics, but I'm happy that they updated it.

I know some people that weren't happy with the LakeVue issues, but they never logged a trouble ticket with Garmin. My guess is that Garmin will perhaps offer a discount but may not give the update for free?

I'd think a better argument would be that without the red-top and black-top information that their bad map is an unsafe navigational Hazzard and that they should give a free update to anyone in NH where this affects us ( I'm guessing that we're the only users that would notice the defect).
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I used the Navionics app on my iPhone occasionally and what I like about it is that you can change the size of the markers. I don't like that it doesn't have a night mode. I'm planning on getting the boat out of storage this week and will update the Navionics+ maps. Hopefully the markers are larger because even though they're colored they're still hard to see. Garmin was pretty good about responding to my emails before. Hopefully I'll hear from someone when they're back in the office.
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Please keep us posted. I need to get the chip but am hanging back until I hear all your input. One question...do you know if you can adjust/reduce the water level contours...I was hoping to not have to see that level of detail all the time.
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Please keep us posted. I need to get the chip but am hanging back until I hear all your input. One question...do you know if you can adjust/reduce the water level contours...I was hoping to not have to see that level of detail all the time.
On my EchoMap 73sv UHD, I can change the level of detail on the map through a few different levels from "Least", "Less", "Normal", "More" and "Most".

This tends to change the number of water contour lines.

I sure wish it had a feature like my older C80 RayMarine where I can press one button "reduce clutter", which would remove most all depth contours and only leave the navigational information. For normal navigation, I'd like full details. but pretty much NO depth contours. Perhaps leave depth shading at a depth which I choose (perhaps 10 ft) to let me know when I'm approaching a shallow area.

The reason why I don't want to set the level of detail to "Least", is that in addition to setting the minimum number of depth contours displayed (at least when you zoom out), it also removes/hides other information, such as the name of Islands and other things that I can't remember at the moment.

There also is a setting for Navaid size, which I have set to "Largest", they allow "Smaller, Normal, Larger, Largest", but to me, even largest seems a bit small.

If I could have a setting to remove all Depth contours (except the shallow shading mentioned above) but still have detail set to normal or high, then I'd have a perfect display. The problem is that at 'speed', the depth contours make seeing some spar buoys tougher as well as the 'preferred paths' that are on the charts.

Garmin does have three different chart displays, "Fishing" and "Navigation" and "Perspective 3D". I'd like to set Navigation chart to have minimum or no depth contours, and then I can use the Fishing chart when I want detailed depth contours, but I haven't found a way to do this.
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