Purple Lane?

jrc · 10-16-2006, 02:21 PM

I see what you describe any time there's traffic.

Lots of people seem to get in the exact change lane and then realize they need change. They have to cut across the EZ-Pass lanes to get to the full service lanes. You also get the people that stop just before the EZ-Pass booth, realize there error and try to squeeze in one of the other lanes.

There are lots of signs now identifying which lane is which but nowhere do they describe what EZ-Pass is and who can use it.

I think there should be at least one EZ-Pass lane at the far left. It would be much easier.

Steve · 10-16-2006, 03:15 PM

I just wish they'd up the speed limit from 10. I might as well roll my window down and throw some tokens in a basket.

Senter Cove Guy · 10-17-2006, 09:26 AM

I've been through several hi-speed EZPass lanes in other states. They are always on the extreme left. Every EZPass toll station should have one.

Pepper · 10-17-2006, 09:58 AM

This is a case of a brilliant idea being poorly executed.

A two week experiment at this time of year is not going to net much of a result, as most of the travelers on 93 will be residents who travel the road either daily, or at least regularly. Then take into account that for half the experiment the light will be solid, and for the second half it will be flashing. Talk about adding more confusion!

Lastly, motorists will be able to fill out a survey? Are they sending it to EZ-Pass users, or are they handing it out at the tolls?

The whole concept of distinquishing lighting is wonderful, but my personal feeling is that this experiment will provide little usable data, and simply cause further confusion. JMHO.

P.S. For what it's worth, I wholeheartedly agree that the EZ-Pass lanes should be to the far left, as they are in every other state on the east coast. Logic states that those traveling with EZ-Pass only have only to slow down for the toll, while those with exact change must physically stop. Those who can travel through the toll more quickly should logically be on the far left (assumed to be the "fast lane")

jrc · 10-17-2006, 10:35 AM

There seems to be reluctance to move them to the far left. I'm only guessing but I can think of two reasons:

Truck use EZ-Pass a lot and in general trucks are not allowed in the left lane. I heard this, but don't believe it.

The electronics and cameras are too hard to move. Remember the left lanes are the ones used in different directions depending on traffic conditions. So when they change the number of lanes, they would have to move the EZ-pass stuff. I thought all lanes supported EZ-Pass so this reason is suspect as well.

Mee-n-Mac · 10-17-2006, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jrc

There seems to be reluctance to move them to the far left. I'm only guessing but I can think of two reasons:

Truck use EZ-Pass a lot and in general trucks are not allowed in the left lane. I heard this, but don't believe it.

The electronics and cameras are too hard to move. Remember the left lanes are the ones used in different directions depending on traffic conditions. So when they change the number of lanes, they would have to move the EZ-pass stuff. I thought all lanes supported EZ-Pass so this reason is suspect as well.

My guess is that the reason is a you state above. Pepper is correct in that you'd think the EZ Pass lanes should be to the left, but because these are the flexible use lanes it's not so clear as to what to do. I can't imagine that the receiver electronics care about direction but you would have to have 2 sets of cameras in the flex lanes to handle both directions, marginally a few more $$s to implement. I'll guess the real reason is because they don't want the majority of people (now EZ Pass I think) merging to the left only to find the expected "extra" lane isn't open at that time. Still I think this (EZ Pass to the left, including flex lanes) would be a lot less confusing that the present situation. It might even reduce the number of morons cutting across lanes though the ability of stupidity to triump over reason never ceases to amaze me.

islandAl · 10-18-2006, 08:12 AM

"number of morons cutting across lanes though the ability of stupidity to triumph over reason never ceases to amaze me"

Last weekend, I saw someone trying to leave the attendant lane with only 6 cars in front to cross over to the backed up exact change lanes. Was turned 90 degrees to the traffic so know he was not cutting out to EZ-Pass

SIKSUKR · 10-18-2006, 09:40 AM

One problem with EZ pass lanes on the far left is most of the cars are in the left lane when the traffic starts to back up.We all know where the majority of cars that hog the left lane are from.I find that during heavy traffic at the tolls,all the cars are either on the left or right and the EZ pass lanes are empty.It's just getting to those empty lanes that can be interesting.

10-17-2006, 09:26 AM	#3
Senter Cove Guy Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 606 Thanks: 304 Thanked 430 Times in 142 Posts	Hi-speed EZPass I've been through several hi-speed EZPass lanes in other states. They are always on the extreme left. Every EZPass toll station should have one. __________________ Lake Winni - The only place I want to be during the summer.

10-17-2006, 09:58 AM	#4
Pepper Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Laconia, NH Posts: 1,284 Thanks: 409 Thanked 155 Times in 40 Posts	This is a case of a brilliant idea being poorly executed. A two week experiment at this time of year is not going to net much of a result, as most of the travelers on 93 will be residents who travel the road either daily, or at least regularly. Then take into account that for half the experiment the light will be solid, and for the second half it will be flashing. Talk about adding more confusion! Lastly, motorists will be able to fill out a survey? Are they sending it to EZ-Pass users, or are they handing it out at the tolls? The whole concept of distinquishing lighting is wonderful, but my personal feeling is that this experiment will provide little usable data, and simply cause further confusion. JMHO. P.S. For what it's worth, I wholeheartedly agree that the EZ-Pass lanes should be to the far left, as they are in every other state on the east coast. Logic states that those traveling with EZ-Pass only have only to slow down for the toll, while those with exact change must physically stop. Those who can travel through the toll more quickly should logically be on the far left (assumed to be the "fast lane") __________________ Never waste time lamenting what was. Simply celebrate what is!

10-18-2006, 08:12 AM	#7
islandAl Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mountonboro Posts: 200 Thanks: 12 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	lane crossing "number of morons cutting across lanes though the ability of stupidity to triumph over reason never ceases to amaze me" Last weekend, I saw someone trying to leave the attendant lane with only 6 cars in front to cross over to the backed up exact change lanes. Was turned 90 degrees to the traffic so know he was not cutting out to EZ-Pass

10-18-2006, 09:40 AM	#8
SIKSUKR Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,075 Thanks: 215 Thanked 903 Times in 509 Posts	One problem with EZ pass lanes on the far left is most of the cars are in the left lane when the traffic starts to back up.We all know where the majority of cars that hog the left lane are from.I find that during heavy traffic at the tolls,all the cars are either on the left or right and the EZ pass lanes are empty.It's just getting to those empty lanes that can be interesting. __________________ SIKSUKR

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10-16-2006, 02:21 PM	#1
jrc Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NH Posts: 2,689 Thanks: 33 Thanked 439 Times in 249 Posts	I see what you describe any time there's traffic. Lots of people seem to get in the exact change lane and then realize they need change. They have to cut across the EZ-Pass lanes to get to the full service lanes. You also get the people that stop just before the EZ-Pass booth, realize there error and try to squeeze in one of the other lanes. There are lots of signs now identifying which lane is which but nowhere do they describe what EZ-Pass is and who can use it. I think there should be at least one EZ-Pass lane at the far left. It would be much easier.

10-16-2006, 03:15 PM	#2
Steve Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Southern NH Posts: 109 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I just wish they'd up the speed limit from 10. I might as well roll my window down and throw some tokens in a basket.

10-17-2006, 10:35 AM	#5
jrc Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NH Posts: 2,689 Thanks: 33 Thanked 439 Times in 249 Posts	There seems to be reluctance to move them to the far left. I'm only guessing but I can think of two reasons: Truck use EZ-Pass a lot and in general trucks are not allowed in the left lane. I heard this, but don't believe it. The electronics and cameras are too hard to move. Remember the left lanes are the ones used in different directions depending on traffic conditions. So when they change the number of lanes, they would have to move the EZ-pass stuff. I thought all lanes supported EZ-Pass so this reason is suspect as well.