Pan handling?

[chachee52]

So it's ok to start a GoFundMe page for the most obscure things, but to to it face to face is bad?
And I do recall that in NH they have deemed it legal. I may be wrong and Nashua and Hudson did only? There are plenty in Hudson and Nashua in the same location each day. There was a court case and they are allowed to be there per the court decision.
If they aren't harming anyone, what's the big deal. If you don't want to support them, move on.

[TiltonBB]

Originally Posted by chachee52

So it's ok to start a GoFundMe page for the most obscure things, but to to it face to face is bad?
And I do recall that in NH they have deemed it legal. I may be wrong and Nashua and Hudson did only? There are plenty in Hudson and Nashua in the same location each day. There was a court case and they are allowed to be there per the court decision.
If they aren't harming anyone, what's the big deal. If you don't want to support them, move on.

Do you think they report their panhandling take to the IRS?
Do you think they spend any of the money on drugs or alcohol?
How many panhandlers have EBT, Section 8 housing, Obama phones, and any other freebies available?

[TheProfessor]

Originally Posted by TiltonBB

Do you think they report their panhandling take to the IRS?
Do you think they spend any of the money on drugs or alcohol?
How many panhandlers have EBT, Section 8 housing, Obama phones, and any other freebies available?

Someone is proselytizing the subsidized phone program initiated by Republican President Ronald W. Reagan. Don't let facts interupt any biases.

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[Major]

Originally Posted by TheProfessor

Someone is proselytizing the subsidized phone program initiated by Republican President Ronald W. Reagan. Don't let facts interupt any biases.

LINK

What's the point of this statement? That Reagan was a champion of freebees for deadbeats? We all know about the plusses and minuses of the presidents during our lifetimes, whether they were conservative, liberal or somewhere in the middle. We know that Reagan was generally conservative, but not perfect in this regard. To be fair, the president who was harder on the welfare state than any other was Clinton. The 1994 midterms had something to do with that! Like it or not, free phones are associated with Obama.

[Biggd]

With politics creeping in, I can see this thread being closed soon!
Pan handling has been around since the dark ages, politics really has nothing to do with it.

[camp guy]

Let's hope!

[ApS]

Originally Posted by chachee52

So it's ok to start a GoFundMe page for the most obscure things, but to to it face to face is bad?
And I do recall that in NH they have deemed it legal. I may be wrong and Nashua and Hudson did only? There are plenty in Hudson and Nashua in the same location each day. There was a court case and they are allowed to be there per the court decision.
If they aren't harming anyone, what's the big deal. If you don't want to support them, move on.

Suppose you don't want your windshield squeegeed?

[chachee52]

Originally Posted by ApS

Suppose you don't want your windshield squeegeed?

Sorry, I missed that part of the post. I'll go back and read to see if I can see that they were doing things to people cars.

None of you know that a)they are doing drugs, b) didn't run into hard time c) were bothering anyone. At least not from what I was reading in the posts.
If they aren't bothering anyone, than what's the point of complaining? If it's legal and not causing a hazard to others I don't see why people are so upset?
If you know that for a fact they are using drugs than that's a different story.
Just like this weekend going into the grocery store I got asked to sign a petition, I said "no thank you" and went onto my business. No harm done.

[ApS]

Originally Posted by chachee52

Sorry, I missed that part of the post. I'll go back and read to see if I can see that they were doing things to people cars. None of you know that a)they are doing drugs, b) didn't run into hard time c) were bothering anyone. At least not from what I was reading in the posts. If they aren't bothering anyone, than what's the point of complaining? If it's legal and not causing a hazard to others I don't see why people are so upset? If you know that for a fact they are using drugs than that's a different story. Just like this weekend going into the grocery store I got asked to sign a petition, I said "no thank you" and went onto my business. No harm done.

I had occasion to pull into a parking space outside a huge Justice building. Knowing that I'd need 2 hours at the meter, I rummaged through my change. A teen approached my car carrying a fist-sized rock. He walked over to the meter, and gave it a learned whack! The meter instantly read 2 hours, so I was expected to hand over the $2 in change to the teen.

Some people can't foresee the destructive outcome of "harmless" panhandling on society.

The "One Broken Window" theory drove the greatest redirection of "harmless" enterprise in our lifetimes. I think we can foresee that it will shortly be overdue for a return.

[chachee52]

Originally Posted by ApS

I had occasion to pull into a parking space outside a huge Justice building. Knowing that I'd need 2 hours at the meter, I rummaged through my change. A teen approached my car carrying a fist-sized rock. He walked over to the meter, and gave it a learned whack! The meter instantly read 2 hours, so I was expected to hand over the $2 in change to the teen.

Some people can't foresee the destructive outcome of "harmless" panhandling on society.

The "One Broken Window" theory drove the greatest redirection of "harmless" enterprise in our lifetimes. I think we can foresee that it will shortly be overdue for a return.

I was talking about this particular post. So "IF" I am wrong and they were bothering people than yes, that is an issue. I'm not saying all panhandlers are good and don't try "scams" to get money. Go to DC, there are scammer Panhandlers on EVERY corner looking to make a buck.
It seemed like, in this post, the people weren't bothering anyone. But instead people in this thread/forum were quick to make judgements on people that they don't know the situation. That was my main point. Don't judge unless you know the entire situation. I don't know if they were bothering anyone, I don't know if they are rich, and neither does anyone here from what it sounds like.
It's just my observation.

[garysanfran]

There was a woman panhandling in my neighborhood with two very depressed looking and dirty children. She had a sign..."Please help feed my starving children". She made good money.

She was arrested and the children were taken into custody by Child Protection Services (CPS).

The children were not hers and were "rented" from her neighbor. The neighbor was a crack addict. Needed the money and the time. They commuted to my neighborhood from Oakland.

The people in my neighborhood felt so good giving to such a worthy cause.

Story was written up in my neighborhood newspaper.