65 mph on the Broads only

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by TiltonBB

I have had jet skis and enjoyed them for over 25 years. The four strokes made them less noisy and much smoother.



However the newer jet skis with stereos can be as annoying as a wake boat with the high mounted speakers. They both blast sound for a large distance, disturbing the peace and quiet for many people in the area they operate in.

The difference between the two is that jetski speakers are much lower, so the sound doesn't travel nearly as far, and only overpower the engine noise when at idle/lower speeds. As someone who has them, though, I agree they can be annoying.

In terms of the speed limit, does it really matter? Is there really anyone on the lake who follows that rule religiously other than when near MP?

At this point, it would be like changing the speed limit on the interstate from 55-70. Everybody's already doing 80.

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[John Mercier]

I find it funny after the last election that Bordes and Trottier don't seem to be focused on the issues.

I would have focused all my attention on fixing the housing crisis, the energy crisis, and the food crisis.

[BroadHopper]

Originally Posted by John Mercier

I find it funny after the last election that Bordes and Trottier don't seem to be focused on the issues.

I would have focused all my attention on fixing the housing crisis, the energy crisis, and the food crisis.

And the mental illness crisis. It would solve many problems.

[John Mercier]

The mental illness is stress induced by the other underlying problems.
It will keep getting worse the longer the other situations exist.

[Biggd]

Originally Posted by John Mercier

The mental illness is stress induced by the other underlying problems.
It will keep getting worse the longer the other situations exist.

Not all mental illness is stress induced.

[John Mercier]

I would bet more of what we are seeing is.
It is possible some other environmental factor is playing a role, but they should be able to pin that down.

As far as genetic factors, that isn't something that the government - local, State, or Federal - is going to be able to ''fix''. And they will have even less resources for those as they deal with the amount caused by the stress.

Laconia (Bordes) is dealing with 11.4% poverty rate... and a mixture of homeless and near homeless.
Long term mental illness may be playing a role, but that cannot be for that percentage of the population.

[Biggd]

Originally Posted by John Mercier

I would bet more of what we are seeing is.
It is possible some other environmental factor is playing a role, but they should be able to pin that down.

As far as genetic factors, that isn't something that the government - local, State, or Federal - is going to be able to ''fix''. And they will have even less resources for those as they deal with the amount caused by the stress.

Laconia (Bordes) is dealing with 11.4% poverty rate... and a mixture of homeless and near homeless.
Long term mental illness may be playing a role, but that cannot be for that percentage of the population.

Just curious John, 1900 posts and you only hit the thanks button once, was that by accident?

[ITD]

A deadlocked government is a good government. Unless you have your hand out.

[barndoor]

Checked the site for lake news, not a left wing political lecture.

[Loub52]

Cutting across the broads heading any direction at ~40, it’s very easy to close on another boater much quicker than you expect. Raising the notional speed limit would be foolhardy. Why not take that speed to the ocean?

[ApS]

Originally Posted by Loub52

Cutting across the broads heading any direction at ~40, it’s very easy to close on another boater much quicker than you expect. Raising the notional speed limit would be foolhardy. Why not take that speed to the ocean?

1) Some may recall the ocean-racer that ejected the occupants, whose empty boat crossed a mile of lake, ran up a wooded enbankment and interrupted a neighborhood cookout.

2) Some may recall a Florida "captain" who was sentenced to 80 years in prison for losing control of his ocean-racer and crushing a citizen inside his house!

Of the two fatalities above, the latter case is evocative of a similar fatality on Lake Winnipesaukee: New Hampshire justice was poorly served with a slap on the wrist. (Not to mention the seven bikers case).

The speed limit provides NH prosecutors with a second charge totally in accord with the serious charges of Homicide and Manslaughter.

[John Mercier]

Originally Posted by barndoor

Checked the site for lake news, not a left wing political lecture.

Not sure how it is left wing, if Republicans are looking to replace Republicans with other Republicans.

[StevenGilford]

Originally Posted by John Mercier

Not sure how it is left wing, if Republicans are looking to replace Republicans with other Republicans.

The "smear" has become universal for anything that a certain group of people don't like.

[John Mercier]

It doesn't really work in Belmont.
Pretty much here if you want to be a State legislator, you need an ''R'' next to your name. As long as you don't have a primary, you can sit in Concord earning $100 per year for the rest of your life.

Because we are ''blue collar'', issue are almost always ''kitchen table'' budgeting.
They like to know how the money is being spent, and in this what the benefits to them would be.

It may be that opening up the speed limit would attract more ''customers'' to the lake... and thus enhance Meals & Rental revenues without having to change the tax rate. That would be a positive.

But with so many of the businesses complaining of labor shortages, food shortages, and now energy costs... it brings into question what the outcome will be this year if those issues persist.
Having restaurants close prematurely... or worse permanently... is an outcome I think we would all want to avoid.

We want to keep the economy growing regardless of what happens elsewhere.

[John Mercier]

Originally Posted by Biggd

Just curious John, 1900 posts and you only hit the thanks button once, was that by accident?

More than likely.

[Biggd]

Originally Posted by John Mercier

More than likely.

That's what I thought, Somehow I knew you would have the answer!

[mcdude]

Looks like it's time to open up the Speed Limit sub-forum again. The last speed limit "debate" got really ugly. Many of us don't want to read this crap. Brings back bad memories of how some forumites brought winnipesaukee.com down to new low depths. JMHO. I'll probably be sorry I posted this as I usually steer clear of useless controversy. Talk about first world problems. .... jeesh .... and it's already devolved into politics.

[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by thinkxingu

The difference between the two is that jetski speakers are much lower, so the sound doesn't travel nearly as far, and only overpower the engine noise when at idle/lower speeds. As someone who has them, though, I agree they can be annoying.

In terms of the speed limit, does it really matter? Is there really anyone on the lake who follows that rule religiously other than when near MP?

At this point, it would be like changing the speed limit on the interstate from 55-70. Everybody's already doing 80.

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The thing that would change is the lake would be significantly more attractive to super fast super loud boats. Seems completely obvious that we would have more of them, everywhere, not just in the Broads.

[tummyman]

Wonder how much the boating industry has invested this time around? Wonder how much went to members of this House committee? Our lake continues to b destroyed by people who do not value this precious resource. If you want to speed, move to Hampton Beach ! First time there is a fatality, it will be on the hands of this committee if the bill is pushed along to the legislature.