Quiet Hours or Curfew

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Originally Posted by John Mercier

Not really. By the 60s, we had already had a rush of non-natives buying into NH at a very flush rate.

The Greatest Generation would have noticed the Boomers becoming ''woke'', and the change in social, economic, and political factors that they brought about... but overall non-natives are not more likely to have ill character than natives.

The Greatest Generations was more ''conform to the norm'' than the Boomers ''Live Free or Die''.

And I think it is a bit too soon to determine whether the Millennials will continue the course of the Boomers or return to the more conservative past of the Greatest.

As you say, Not Really, the Millennials are pretty much fixed in their ways, I meet all our new employees during orientation for the last many years and check in on many of them over time, and have seen the drastic and disappointing change in the workplace over the last 15 years. This is a very frightening group from my seat. If their attitudes and ways persisted I would truly fear for the future.

The saving grace is the next group behind them. The kids not yet in the workforce are a different group again and at the moment I like what I see. They question and challenge things in a productive way. Unfortunately they are being fed so much misinformation from all directions, I have no idea how they will sort our the truth from the rubbish. But so far they are only sampling but not drinking the kool-aid and they are looking for their own answers and thats GREAT.

The future generations should not be "conform to the norm" nor should they be completely unbending "live free or die" they need to write a new standard that protects the basic standards our predecessors fought so hard for, but embraces future realities.

The future should be eyes open, not rah rah go solar - EV - 100% organic - etc, but rather, what are the actual cradle to grave issues of concern and legitimate pros and cons of any change. Strip off the hype of marketing and those who just seek to simply move money from one pocket to another, and push the ball forward in a well thought-out and actually informed way. Thats the future we need!

We have all been feed hype our whole lives and accepted the marketing as truth, when in fact its more absolute nonsense than fact. And the next batch beyond the Millennials will hopefully ignore the BS and demand facts and make truly informed decisions, and when they are wrong and make normal human mistakes, they will adapt and over come rather than waste time endlessly point fingers of blame in all directions.

Well one can only hope ;-)

[Garcia]

It's interesting to hear criticism of the millennials (disclaimer - I am Generation X and my kids are Gen Z) without the same criticism of either the Boomers or in fewer cases Generation X - the parents that raised them.

What I find striking in regards to the changes in the lake over the 50+ years I have been blessed to enjoy it, is the growing size and number of boats. I grew up with anywhere from a 15-22 foot boat (currently have a 17) as the main boat to get back and forth the the island, fish, waterski, and just explore the lake. Now it seems like 25+ is the norm.

In terms of obnoxious behavior, I think it always existed, but with more people out on the water on a given day, there are more opportunities to come into contact with the obnoxious, entitled ones. And, being in crowded situations, of which there are more of today than a couple decades ago, can bring out the worst in people.

More often than not I am a "weekend warrior" and thank my lucky stars every time I pull up to the dock on the island that 100 years ago, a family member had the foresight to build a cottage on a small piece of land that 5 generations and counting enjoy.

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Originally Posted by Garcia

It's interesting to hear criticism of the millennials without the same criticism of either the Boomers or in fewer cases Generation X - the parents that raised them.

What I find striking in regards to the changes in the lake over the 50+ years I have been blessed to enjoy it, is the growing size and number of boats. I grew up with anywhere from a 15-22 foot boat (currently have a 17) as the main boat to get back and forth the the island, fish, waterski, and just explore the lake. Now it seems like 25+ is the norm.

In terms of obnoxious behavior, I think it always existed, but with more people out on the water on a given day, there are more opportunities to come into contact with the obnoxious, entitled ones. And, being in crowded situations, of which there are more of today than a couple decades ago, can bring out the worst in people.

More often than not I am a "weekend warrior" and thank my lucky stars every time I pull up to the dock on the island that 100 years ago, a family member had the foresight to build a cottage on a small piece of land that 5 generations and counting enjoy.

I'm on board with all you say! Including the comments about criticism of Boomers and Gen X & Y, they all have problems, but they are no longer the future so I just didnt waste any time on them or should I say on us ;-)

I am keenly aware of my shortcomings and of my parents and those who followed. From the late 1970's through today we have fallen into a cultural rut. Advertising and political hype have replaced actual fact. Media has replaced journalism, truth is what you can post on the interweb and anyone will believe. Rights and justice are infinitely variable to suit the preference of those in control of the matter.

And though I see this as a dark period overall, I also see a reset on the horizon. I do believe the future gen will expect and demand and produce a better balance. If I fear anything of the future generations, its the total lack of connection to the skills that built our physical world. Gone are the tradesmen who were actually knowledgeable and took pride in what they built and repaired. Todays youth can set up a cell phone before a boomer can unfold the instructions. But ask that same youth to change a door knob and they dont know a chisel from a file and cant even figure out how to hold the tools let alone use them. They are actually mostly not interested in classic skills but are completely in sync with all the latest and greatest technology.

Its will be interesting to see this situation get resolved. I'm sure it will happen, but maybe not as we might expect.

Only time will tell, and I feel 100% certain this is a repeating cycle that has been experienced countless times over the last few hundred years ;-)

[John Mercier]

I notice that they are more interested in the classical skills associated with homesteading and cottagecore... so must be a city thing you're seeing.

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Originally Posted by John Mercier

I notice that they are more interested in the classical skills associated with homesteading and cottagecore... so must be a city thing you're seeing.

Are you talking about Millennials, Gen X or Y, or post-Millennials?

And yes I suspect it is worse with Urban and Suburban young people than those who live in rural areas like the Lakes Region.

Closer to the city most young people work in offices and all want to be a Project Manager/Supervisor/Boss as soon a possible and way too many come to the workforce right out of a masters program and have never worked one day at a job before they start with us.

I have even seen new employees in their mid 20's who have no drivers license and have never driven! That is just amazing for any person unless they grew up in NYC or similar,,,

[John Mercier]

Millennials.
Those moving to the area seem to want a quieter slower pace of life.

[BroadHopper]

Originally Posted by John Mercier

Millennials.
Those moving to the area seem to want a quieter slower pace of life.

Most, not all. The ones with professional careers who established their resumes/portfolios in the cities and are at the top of their game usually move here and work virtually commuting occasionally.
Most like to keep the tranquility that way. Some disagree, but I found they were brought up in that environment and didn't see things the way we do. It's hard to convince them to be as it may.