Farm Island Update

[LIforrelaxin]

As for the the courts having the power to tell someone they can't use their property, they most certainly can.....I have seen it happen in other situations.

As for who owns Farm Island, I do believe it is or was actually Randy, given the legal entanglements there may have been some efforts to change that... But at the end of the day, I have found a very active listing for the 1 Farm Island, despite Randy's refusal in another thread that it wasn't true...

Looking at the pictures of the listing they include pictures of improvements that where made once the Owen, family bought the property...

All in all this is a very sad situation....

[winni83]

The Tuftonboro assessor data shows 1 Farm Island as being owned by Farm Island Acres, LLC and it is shown as having 13.3 acres, the same acerage shown in the listing. The NH Secretary of State's office shows the Manager of Farm Island Acres, LLC as Cody Owen.

[codeman671]

There is an article in the Union Leader on May 22nd about the suit filed by the YMCA. I don't have a subscription, maybe someone else can post it.

https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0ge...Wzk_5f5wRb.AM-

It looks like he was also arrested in Dec 2019 for driving without an interlock installed. What a prize...

[tis]

Originally Posted by LIforrelaxin

As for the the courts having the power to tell someone they can't use their property, they most certainly can.....I have seen it happen in other situations.

All in all this is a very sad situation....

Could you elaborate on the situation you have seen that didn't allow people to use their own home? I find this extreme and am sure it will be challenged. I have followed this on here and also on the Tuftonboro Forums. I have watched the two sides fight, but there must be something that happened that we don't know about .

[TiltonBB]

Originally Posted by tis

Could you elaborate on the situation you have seen that didn't allow people to use their own home? I find this extreme and am sure it will be challenged. I have followed this on here and also on the Tuftonboro Forums. I have watched the two sides fight, but there must be something that happened that we don't know about .

There are situations, usually involving protective orders, that the court will order one person, usually the husband or wife, out of the house.

Your name may be on the deed but the court can keep you away from your own property.

In certain situations, people can be charged with trespassing or even burglarizing their own property. The issue most often comes up in cases involving domestic violence or during landlord-tenant disputes. Landlords cannot enter their own property that is rented to a tenant except in the case of emergency, like a water leak or fire.

[LIforrelaxin]

Originally Posted by tis

Could you elaborate on the situation you have seen that didn't allow people to use their own home? I find this extreme and am sure it will be challenged. I have followed this on here and also on the Tuftonboro Forums. I have watched the two sides fight, but there must be something that happened that we don't know about .

What I have seen in the past, is similar to what is going on here..I can't remember the exact name of the order, but is basically done in cases of harassment, prior to a day in court.....What it instructs the police to do is arrest the defendant, if the plaintiff places additional calls to the police department for continued harassment.

Think of it as a Restraining order on drugs.... The police no longer have a choice, to talk to the parties, and asked the defendant to simply leave... if they are called and showup, and the defendant is in the area, be it on their own property on not, they are to be arrested....

Now to be sure, beyond normal harassment the plaintiff has to show that there is a credible sense of endangerment, in the situation to get something like this put in place.... Additionally, this drives a court date in front of a judge which is not optional, unlike a restraining order, which once served only comes back to court, if the defendant wishes to challenge it.

[tis]

Originally Posted by LIforrelaxin

What I have seen in the past, is similar to what is going on here..I can't remember the exact name of the order, but is basically done in cases of harassment, prior to a day in court.....What it instructs the police to do is arrest the defendant, if the plaintiff places additional calls to the police department for continued harassment.

Think of it as a Restraining order on drugs.... The police no longer have a choice, to talk to the parties, and asked the defendant to simply leave... if they are called and showup, and the defendant is in the area, be it on their own property on not, they are to be arrested....

Now to be sure, beyond normal harassment the plaintiff has to show that there is a credible sense of endangerment, in the situation to get something like this put in place.... Additionally, this drives a court date in front of a judge which is not optional, unlike a restraining order, which once served only comes back to court, if the defendant wishes to challenge it.

I have to agree there needs to be "a credible sense of endangerment" above and beyond to put this in place.

[Mr. V]

Originally Posted by tis

I have to agree there needs to be "a credible sense of endangerment" above and beyond to put this in place.

"Harassment" does not require the infliction of "a credible sense of danger."

The statute in question:
https://law.justia.com/codes/new-ham...section-644-4/

Threats are NOT required; it's enough to annoy or alarm.

[tis]

Originally Posted by Mr. V

"Harassment" does not require the infliction of "a credible sense of danger."

The statute in question:
https://law.justia.com/codes/new-ham...section-644-4/

Threats are NOT required; it's enough to annoy or alarm.

I am just saying is harassment enough to ban one from one's home? I am shocked by this. I am not taking sides, but I can't help but wonder what the real story is.

[Descant]

Originally Posted by tis

I am just saying is harassment enough to ban one from one's home? I am shocked by this. I am taking sides, but I can't help but wonder what the real story is.

As I read the thread, it isn't Randy Owen's home. Regardless, the judge can do what he feels is appropriate for safety.

[fatlazyless]

A good fence makes a good neighbor, and a fence will ease the hostility between hostile neighbors.

Recall the big fence out there on Skull Island, built to keep the natives safe from King Kong. Remember that big fence from the 1933 King Kong movie.

To keep everyone happy and at ease out on Farm Island, what's needed is a good fence. Name it the Farm Island Fence to separate the 20-acre Farm Island into eight and twelve acre sections . .....

[codeman671]

Originally Posted by tis

I am just saying is harassment enough to ban one from one's home? I am shocked by this. I am not taking sides, but I can't help but wonder what the real story is.

It's not his home, its owned by a relative. I find it odd that he tried to lay claim to it all along. The guy seems mentally not well...None of this should ever have occurred.

[ishoot308]

Originally Posted by codeman671

It's not his home, its owned by a relative. I find it odd that he tried to lay claim to it all along. The guy seems mentally not well...None of this should ever have occurred.

I'm not positive... but I believe he WAS the owner and recently put it in Cody's name for pending legal ramifications...

Dan

[LIforrelaxin]

Originally Posted by ishoot308

I'm not positive... but I believe he WAS the owner and recently put it in Cody's name for pending legal ramifications...

Dan

Just did a little research... nothing concrete, but it would seem that Randy and his nephew bought the Farm Island property.... Randy never claimed to solely own the property... Given all the legal issues, it would not surprise me to hear, that it was transferred solely to Cody..

Additionally my research also found a statement that seem to indicate that Randy had be squabbling with Camp Belknap prior to the farm Island purchse... so it is possible they own additional property close by...

[ishoot308]

Originally Posted by LIforrelaxin

Just did a little research... nothing concrete, but it would seem that Randy and his nephew bought the Farm Island property.... Randy never claimed to solely own the property... Given all the legal issues, it would not surprise me to hear, that it was transferred solely to Cody..

Additionally my research also found a statement that seem to indicate that Randy had be squabbling with Camp Belknap prior to the farm Island purchse... so it is possible they own additional property close by...

The family has property on Cow island also….

Dan